Stagecoach South & South East

[fgwrich]

Where were they previously?

Stagecoach West Scotland for 36701/2/3
Stagecoach Devon for 36255/6

 

[SouthEastBuses]

Where were they previously?

I wonder if Guildford will get some Oxfordshire E200s. 36765 (OU62) is a good one imo, and the SN63s are not too bad either.

 

[gka472l]

Where were they previously?

I had them down as allocated to Ayr

 

[Class450/4DES]

I wonder if Guildford will get some Oxfordshire E200s. 36765 (OU62) is a good one imo, and the SN63s are not too bad either.

I'm hoping for more MAN or ADL E300's & some midi E200's which the area needs.

 

[Surreyman]

I'm hoping for more MAN or ADL E300's & some midi E200's which the area needs.

It doesn't 'need' any of them, the last MANs were a disaster, will probably be E200s & maybe some re-licensed Darts, I would think that Stagecoach would want to minimise vehicle types.
Just noticed today that Artington P + R has had the height restriction bar on the left side of the car park removed.

 

[Class450/4DES]

It doesn't 'need' any of them, the last MANs were a disaster, will probably be E200s & maybe some re-licensed Darts, I would think that Stagecoach would want to minimise vehicle types.
Just noticed today that Artington P + R has had the height restriction bar on the left side of the car park removed.

Alright, but Midi E200's are a good idea for tighter routes or Solos ETC.

 

[Flange Squeal]

Alright, but Midi E200's are a good idea for tighter routes or Solos ETC.

The only route at Peasmarsh that is really suitable for short vehicles is the 81 Woking to Barnsbury, which big buses can’t really get around (as demonstrated last week when Barnsbury was unserved for around 9 days as both Solos were off the road, with longer buses in use and only serving the main A320). So while some more reliable short vehicles for that would be ideal, as it’s not a completely rare issue sadly, certainly everything else Peasmarsh does is probably more suited to longer vehicles. Particularly with the reduced frequencies expected in January due to the driver shortage. The exception is perhaps the 39A-C/40 shopper routes which would be fine with shorter vehicles capacity wise, but operationally they interwork with the 690 school route and logistically logical to keep that way.

 

[Class450/4DES]

The only route at Peasmarsh that is really suitable for short vehicles is the 81 Woking to Barnsbury, which big buses can’t really get around (as demonstrated last week when Barnsbury was unserved for around 9 days as both Solos were off the road, with longer buses in use and only serving the main A320). So while some more reliable short vehicles for that would be ideal, as it’s not a completely rare issue sadly, certainly everything else Peasmarsh does is probably more suited to longer vehicles. Particularly with the reduced frequencies expected in January due to the driver shortage. The exception is perhaps the 39A-C/40 shopper routes which would be fine with shorter vehicles capacity wise, but operationally they interwork with the 690 school route and logistically logical to keep that way.

Ah okay, at least 47307 is back now on bustimes.org.

 

[SouthEastBuses]

I think Guildford could do with some more double deckers for the busiest routes, maybe more Scania E400s or Dennis Trident 2s. Personally, the 1/2 could as a result fully run with DDs (imo the busiest Stagecoach Guildford route), with the currently branded SL64 E200s displaced for the ex Arriva routes as well as already Stagecoach run routes like 65 and 70. The 1/2 could maybe run with ex Gloucester VX62 Scania E400s, if there's enough spare ones.

 

[Flange Squeal]

I think Guildford could do with some more double deckers for the busiest routes, maybe more Scania E400s or Dennis Trident 2s. Personally, the 1/2 could as a result fully run with DDs (imo the busiest Stagecoach Guildford route), with the currently branded SL64 E200s displaced for the ex Arriva routes as well as already Stagecoach run routes like 65 and 70. The 1/2 could maybe run with ex Gloucester VX62 Scania E400s, if there's enough spare ones.

The problem with having too many deckers at Peasmarsh is that they are too tall to be accommodated in the depot building, so certain things require them to have to go to Aldershot. Therefore the more they have, the harder keeping them all on the road would be.

 

[LUYMun]

The problem with having too many deckers at Peasmarsh is that they are too tall to be accommodated in the depot building, so certain things require them to have to go to Aldershot. Therefore the more they have, the harder keeping them all on the road would be.

Not to mention the fixed costs of keeping them on the road - insurance, maintenance, fuel...

 

[Class450/4DES]

I think Guildford could do with some more double deckers for the busiest routes, maybe more Scania E400s or Dennis Trident 2s. Personally, the 1/2 could as a result fully run with DDs (imo the busiest Stagecoach Guildford route), with the currently branded SL64 E200s displaced for the ex Arriva routes as well as already Stagecoach run routes like 65 and 70. The 1/2 could maybe run with ex Gloucester VX62 Scania E400s, if there's enough spare ones.

If we do get double deck transfers it's very likely not going to be Guildford because some buses are being transferred to Guildford within the Stagecoach South fleet. It will most likely be Chichester, Worthing or Basingstoke, etc.

 

[cnjb8]

I think Guildford could do with some more double deckers for the busiest routes, maybe more Scania E400s or Dennis Trident 2s. Personally, the 1/2 could as a result fully run with DDs (imo the busiest Stagecoach Guildford route), with the currently branded SL64 E200s displaced for the ex Arriva routes as well as already Stagecoach run routes like 65 and 70. The 1/2 could maybe run with ex Gloucester VX62 Scania E400s, if there's enough spare ones.

There are no spare VX62s available to transfer

 

[Surreyman]

The problem with having too many deckers at Peasmarsh is that they are too tall to be accommodated in the depot building, so certain things require them to have to go to Aldershot. Therefore the more they have, the harder keeping them all on the road would be.

The irony is that if you survey the UK Stagecoach fleet, there are a sizeable number of Tridents in reserve/out of use, (A few older E400/E40H as well),
of course some may have engine/gearbox/corrosion issues. I did speculate that that they could displace some E200s to Peasmarsh.
Aldershot regularly operate 'deckers on mostly single deck routes 10, 18/19, & The Kite, Guildfords own 65 (Pvr 2) is often a 'decker.
Given the parking problems/possible driver shortages/additional vehicles to maintain, I would think that Stagecoach would want to minimise the number of vehicle types it operates.

 

[Class450/4DES]

I wonder whats being transferred to or around Stagecoach South today since Arriva is going?

 

[mbonwick]

27524/6/8 (ADL E300s) should also be on their way down from Fife shortly.

 

[SouthEastBuses]

27524/6/8 (ADL E300s) should also be on their way down from Fife shortly.

Very nice to see the GX06 Transbus E300s return south!

CORRECTION: They're not GX06s and not Transbus either. But either way, nice to see more Euro 4 E300s in Guildford! Would love to have that or a GX58 on the 63!

 

[Class450/4DES]

Very nice to see the GX06 Transbus E300s return south!

CORRECTION: They're not GX06s and not Transbus either. But either way, nice to see more Euro 4 E300s in Guildford! Would love to have that or a GX58 on the 63!

Ex Stagecoach Gold too which is nice to see.
I think its very likely to see these on long routes such as the 34/35, 53/63 & 65.

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Update: It seems Andover based 27835 has been transferred to Guildford.

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Update 2: 27833 too.

 

[SouthEastBuses]

Ex Stagecoach Gold too which is nice to see.
I think its very likely to see these on long routes such as the 34/35, 53/63 & 65.

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View attachment 107197Update: It seems Andover based 27835 has been transferred to Guildford.

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Update 2: 27833 too.View attachment 107198

I would agree, they would work rather well on these routes

 

[SouthEastBuses]

The Chichester 51 GX13s (27838-27843) are also a good batch, mind you.
But the best are the GX58s, followed by the GX10/GX60s.

 

[Class450/4DES]

The Chichester 51 GX13s (27838-27843) are also a good batch, mind you.
But the best are the GX58s, followed by the GX10/GX60s.

Yeah for me I like the Basingstoke based ones & the fact that the E300 is My favourite bus

 

[route101]

Prefer a decker over any single decker!

Thinking of trying a few Stagecoach routes from Havant and Chichester tomorrow.

 

[Surreyman]

As at 8pm this evening, Artington Park & Ride had the following 11 buses parked up: -

27564 ex Basingstoke
27651 ex Chichester
27658 ex Worthing
27833 ex Andover
27835 ex Andover
27836 ex Chichester
36435 ex Aldershot
36436
36835
36839
36840 ex Basingstoke

They looked like they had all recently been through the wash, (my records for previous depots not 100% guaranteed).

 

[Class450/4DES]

As at 8pm this evening, Artington Park & Ride had the following 11 buses parked up: -

27564 ex Basingstoke
27651 ex Chichester
27658 ex Worthing
27833 ex Andover
27835 ex Andover
27836 ex Chichester
36435 ex Aldershot
36436
36835
36839
36840 ex Basingstoke

They looked like they had all recently been through the wash, (my records for previous depots not 100% guaranteed).

Alright, is there any news of transfers from other divisions?

 

[jamieintercity]

27524/6/8 (ADL E300s) should also be on their way down from Fife shortly.

These 3 are based at arbroath (27526/8 were the longest being there since 2012) but haven't been used since last month. They were also put on private plates for a short period this year

 

[Class450/4DES]

Well, Stagecoach have now taken over Arriva's operations.
Let's see how it goes for them.

 

[SouthEastBuses]

Well, Stagecoach have now taken over Arriva's operations.
Let's see how it goes for them.

No buses currently track on bustimes.org, I wonder why.

 

[Class450/4DES]

No buses currently track on bustimes.org, I wonder why.

I see the same thing too. :v
It happened yesterday too.

 

[cnjb8]

No buses currently track on bustimes.org, I wonder why.

That just happens from time to time

 

[SouthEastBuses]

Ok bustimes.org tracking finally working again.

So I see one of my local routes, the 63, is using E200s. Not too bad, but E300s would have been better. Imo they perform better and have more seats (63 gets very busy between Guildford and Cranleigh)