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My scheme to help passengers avoid missing connections by stopping the trains after they leave?

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Just had a wee read of this...... https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/can-platform-staff-hold-a-train-within-reason.225537/

And it got me thinking for a few minutes;

Why not have any of the following in place for when the train is pulling away just as the passenger tried to get their connecting train?


The passengers who have just missed their connection would need to make a visit to the ticket office in that station and make a request to the ticket office clerk to either stop the train if it has left the station, but still within a certain radius of the station, or recall the train back into to the station if the train has already gone beyond a certain distance of the station. To achieve this, there would be a button under the desk for a member of ticket office staff to press to freeze the train as it is pulling away from the station, that is bring it to a sudden stop, then a member of staff escorts the passenger to the frozen train, and order the conductor to open a door to allow the passenger onto the train they would otherwise have missed.

Additionally, there would be a second button under the desk to recall the train if it has already departed the station and is beyond a certain radius of the station, forcing it to stop and reverse back into the station, and the same procedure as above takes place, allowing the passenger to board it.

What would the practicality of such a feat be like this and would it be more feasible depending on the size of the station involved and how busy on average that station might be on any given day?
 
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Just had a wee read of this...... https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/can-platform-staff-hold-a-train-within-reason.225537/

And it got me thinking for a few minutes;

Why not have any of the following in place for when the train is pulling away just as the passenger tried to get their connecting train?


The passengers who have just missed their connection would need to make a visit to the ticket office in that station and make a request to the ticket office clerk to either stop the train if it has left the station, but still within a certain radius of the station, or recall the train back into to the station if the train has already gone beyond a certain distance of the station. To achieve this, there would be a button under the desk for a member of ticket office staff to press to freeze the train as it is pulling away from the station, that is bring it to a sudden stop, then a member of staff escorts the passenger to the frozen train, and order the conductor to open a door to allow the passenger onto the train they would otherwise have missed.

Additionally, there would be a second button under the desk to recall the train if it has already departed the station and is beyond a certain radius of the station, forcing it to stop and reverse back into the station, and the same procedure as above takes place, allowing the passenger to board it.

What would the practicality of such a feat be like this and would it be more feasible depending on the size of the station involved and how busy on average that station might be on any given day?
Welcome to the forum.

I have a vague memory that a similar suggestion has been made on here....

The short answer is that it is totally impracticable

A longer answer, remembering first that the authority to stop the train lies with the signaller (except in an emergency):

By the time the passenger has found someone to speak to, and they have confirmed that the connection was valid in the first place (otherwise the system would obviously be open to abuse), and contacted the signaller, the train will be 5 minutes away which is at the least a couple of miles.
Reversing the train safely would take a considerable time, even on a line that was signalled for both directions, and assuming another train wasn't following it in those 5 minutes.

So you have delayed the connecting train (and possibly others) by an absolute minimum of 15 minutes, probably a lot more. And all those passengers (possibly several hundred) are inconvenienced, will claim delay repay etc etc.

Sorry!
 

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On a very wet and stormy afternoon, I needed cheering up and this posting did the job - excellent!
Many thanks :))
 

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Post of the year!

perhaps we could deploy similar for connecting flights at Heathrow.
 

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Just had a wee read of this...... https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/can-platform-staff-hold-a-train-within-reason.225537/

And it got me thinking for a few minutes;

Why not have any of the following in place for when the train is pulling away just as the passenger tried to get their connecting train?


The passengers who have just missed their connection would need to make a visit to the ticket office in that station and make a request to the ticket office clerk to either stop the train if it has left the station, but still within a certain radius of the station, or recall the train back into to the station if the train has already gone beyond a certain distance of the station. To achieve this, there would be a button under the desk for a member of ticket office staff to press to freeze the train as it is pulling away from the station, that is bring it to a sudden stop, then a member of staff escorts the passenger to the frozen train, and order the conductor to open a door to allow the passenger onto the train they would otherwise have missed.

Additionally, there would be a second button under the desk to recall the train if it has already departed the station and is beyond a certain radius of the station, forcing it to stop and reverse back into the station, and the same procedure as above takes place, allowing the passenger to board it.

What would the practicality of such a feat be like this and would it be more feasible depending on the size of the station involved and how busy on average that station might be on any given day?
Very good, I needed a chuckle! Welcome to the forum!
 

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Why don't we just make a faster train that could catch up with the missed connection train? It could attach onto the back of the train whilst at speed to avoid delays.
 

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Many trains can split, say 3x4 vehicles. The obvious solution is for 8 vehicles to leave on time. The last four wait for delayed connecting passengers, leave later but go fast enough to catch the 8, like a reverse slip coach they couple up at 150 kmh.

Thunderbird Two could be held in reserve too. ☺
 

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No, they'd still be on the ground - probably on the stand - well after scheduled departure :)

as it happens my father in law has made a connection at a European airport that involved a trip across the tarmac in a van to the end of the runway and a rope ladder thrown out of the aircraft door.
 

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Why don't we just make a faster train that could catch up with the missed connection train? It could attach onto the back of the train whilst at speed to avoid delays.
Make the train out of a stretchy material. That way the front of the train can start to move away while the rear carriages remain in place. Once station staff are certain there are no latecomers, the rear brakes are released and the back of the train pings forward.
 

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Make the train out of a stretchy material. That way the front of the train can start to move away while the rear carriages remain in place. Once station staff are certain there are no latecomers, the rear brakes are released and the back of the train pings forward.

Post of the week!

Elasti-train (TM).
 
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