• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Class 317’s on GEML?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Class360/1

Member
Joined
10 Feb 2021
Messages
652
Location
Essex
Earlier today I saw some pictures on Facebook of a 317 on test at witham. Unfortunately I’ve lost the past but what could they be doing this Far East? Could the prm ones be used to replace non compliant 321’s or driver training?
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

306024

Established Member
Joined
23 Jan 2013
Messages
3,974
Location
East Anglia
Earlier today I saw some pictures on Facebook of a 317 on test at witham. Unfortunately I’ve lost the past but what could they be doing this Far East? Could the prm ones be used to replace non compliant 321’s or driver training?

There is a regular test trip from Ilford to Witham and back that frequently sees 317s off repair being given a run before being returned to traffic.
 

LA50041

Established Member
Joined
20 Feb 2017
Messages
3,213
Earlier today I saw some pictures on Facebook of a 317 on test at witham. Unfortunately I’ve lost the past but what could they be doing this Far East? Could the prm ones be used to replace non compliant 321’s or driver training?
As you said it’s on a test run, probably after repairs at Ilford
 

iphone76

Member
Joined
6 Nov 2010
Messages
988
Location
South Essex
Earlier today I saw some pictures on Facebook of a 317 on test at witham. Unfortunately I’ve lost the past but what could they be doing this Far East? Could the prm ones be used to replace non compliant 321’s or driver training?
Before COVID, I'm sure there used to be a few peak time 317s on the GEML to Witham. Not sure if they went further East as it has been such a long time ago I've totally forgot.
 

dk1

Veteran Member
Joined
2 Oct 2009
Messages
19,911
Location
East Anglia
Before COVID, I'm sure there used to be a few peak time 317s on the GEML to Witham. Not sure if they went further East as it has been such a long time ago I've totally forgot.
Ipswich too weekdays.
 

dk1

Veteran Member
Joined
2 Oct 2009
Messages
19,911
Location
East Anglia
Back in National Express days some went all the way to Norwich
Liverpool St Anglia drivers signed them as had booked work to Harwich on Saturdays. They occasionally got put on their diagrams when short of IC sets.
 

Bikeman78

Established Member
Joined
26 Apr 2018
Messages
6,204
There is a regular test trip from Ilford to Witham and back that frequently sees 317s off repair being given a run before being returned to traffic.
Sometimes it's a mixed 317+321 pair.

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

Liverpool St Anglia drivers signed them as had booked work to Harwich on Saturdays. They occasionally got put on their diagrams when short of IC sets.
The infamous 0630/1130/1630 diagram used to chuck out 317s many years ago. For a while the 1702 LST-Norwich was 317s until the former Stansted 317s were stood down.

More recently the 0729 Witham-LST, 1617 LST-Witham and 1818 LST-Ipswich and return were 317s. They ceased at the beginning of the year. However, a pair of 317s did the 0611 Shenfield to Braintree and 0700 back up on March 5th. That will most likely be the last run unless there is some sort of farewell bash.
 
Last edited:

86246

Member
Joined
18 Sep 2013
Messages
340
Back in National Express days some went all the way to Norwich
I believe they used the 317/7s for a short while on the 17:02 ex LST and 19:30 return. The /7s were also used on the 08:12 from Stowmarket.

Anglia Railways used a 317 for the 18:xx to Norwich and it returned 05:05 the following morning. Along with the 322s (sometimes paired with a 322) they were used for the Norwich services during the summer of 1999 while awaiting the arrival of the 170s.
 

Bikeman78

Established Member
Joined
26 Apr 2018
Messages
6,204
I believe they used the 317/7s for a short while on the 17:02 ex LST and 19:30 return. The /7s were also used on the 08:12 from Stowmarket.

Anglia Railways used a 317 for the 18:xx to Norwich and it returned 05:05 the following morning. Along with the 322s (sometimes paired with a 322) they were used for the Norwich services during the summer of 1999 while awaiting the arrival of the 170s.
A Google search throws up a few photos of 317s at Ipswich in 1999 at various times of day including a 317+322 pair on the 16:40 up. Just before the loco hauled service went half hourly they hired in WAGN 317s to run extra off peak trains to Ipswich departing Liverpool Street at XX:50. I did those a couple of times. They connected nicely at Colchester with the 312 to Walton on the Naze.
 

dk1

Veteran Member
Joined
2 Oct 2009
Messages
19,911
Location
East Anglia
I believe they used the 317/7s for a short while on the 17:02 ex LST and 19:30 return. The /7s were also used on the 08:12 from Stowmarket.

Anglia Railways used a 317 for the 18:xx to Norwich and it returned 05:05 the following morning. Along with the 322s (sometimes paired with a 322) they were used for the Norwich services during the summer of 1999 while awaiting the arrival of the 170s.
Was the 18:42 Norwich which was added by AR to revenue raid on peak traffic to Chelmsford & lasted a timetable or two before being replaced by an IC set. At the time Norwich departures where at 18:00, 18:27, 18:30, 18:42 & 19:00. Quite amazing really.

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

A Google search throws up a few photos of 317s at Ipswich in 1999 at various times of day including a 317+322 pair on the 16:40 up. Just before the loco hauled service went half hourly they hired in WAGN 317s to run extra off peak trains to Ipswich departing Liverpool Street at XX:50. I did those a couple of times. They connected nicely at Colchester with the 312 to Walton on the Naze.
Had trolley catering on those shuttles too. AR hired them in from WAGN outside the peak.
 

THC

Member
Joined
21 Sep 2009
Messages
727
Location
Stuck on the GEML
When commuting into the City a few years back I always liked a Class 317 on the 0740 ex Chelmsford, which I believe originated at Witham. A decent chance of a seat and sometimes in 2x2.

THC
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top