Weirdly, they do have an email address registered with Kent Council, at the domain wealdenpsv.co.uk (is that a previous name for the company)?
Thandi Red have a website with nothing useful on it. No information about bus services just coach routes.
Wealden PSV is the associated dealership, IIRC.
C.W. Roffey of Wateringbury trades (or at least traded) as Starline (my information is a few years old), a few coaches and transits, at least one vehicle was liveried for 'Harry Roffey Holidays' (same address) whose website I could not access but apparently
That may explain it, any company only providing schools or closed door services may not necessarily need a website.
Where's that quoted from?
I had the same thing.
Whitelaws did start to set up a site a few years ago but it was never finished and has now disappeared entirely although it is still listed on www.travelinescotland.com.
It may not be hard to put them up, but I question the value of simply posting a PDF. Given many people who could be described as irregular or non-bus and train users struggle to read a timetable, a faretable (especially given there are usually more points on a faretable than a timetable) is even harder. At least if you know when the bus goes you can ask the driver, whereas it's pretty pointless knowing how much it's going to cost you if you don't know when it's going to pick you up.
LCT managed it in 1964It may not be hard to put them up, but I question the value of simply posting a PDF. Given many people who could be described as irregular or non-bus and train users struggle to read a timetable, a faretable (especially given there are usually more points on a faretable than a timetable) is even harder. At least if you know when the bus goes you can ask the driver, whereas it's pretty pointless knowing how much it's going to cost you if you don't know when it's going to pick you up.
Centrebus do produce full faretables for each route on the same page as the timetable. Consider working out, without the aid of a calculator, the price of a Child Point to Point Weekly ticket from Grantham to Bottesford using this faretable: https://www.centrebus.info/media/2250/ft-x6_6-grantham-to-bottesford-27012020.pdf. Just don't post your answer, and how long it took you, in this topic
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I think bustimes.org will be the get out clause now. Why put your times online when someone else has done it already!
All sorts of people will be able to produce websites using the source data, just like the railway system. Provided the data is correct (which if it isn't would be a problem on a company website anyway) why would any operator bother with their own website unless they wished to bias the results towards their own operations in a competitive environment. I suspect that the smaller companies would have less reason or ability to do this.
Mere provision of information does not directly correlate with understanding what that information tells you, which is the point I was trying to make. Simply printing a few lists and saying "here's a faretable" doesn't really do anything other than tick a box.
I didn't have time to find a stop between farestages to confuse the issue further!
They're not - they have a tab called "Scheduled bus services" which contains a photo of what to me looks like an Optare Versa - there's simply no actual information there!Smith & Sons of Coupar Angus have a website which makes absolutely no mention of the bus services that they operate, instead leaving that to Angus Council.
Perhaps they're ashamed to admit that they run buses too?
Consider working out, without the aid of a calculator, the price of a Child Point to Point Weekly ticket from Grantham to Bottesford using this faretable: https://www.centrebus.info/media/2250/ft-x6_6-grantham-to-bottesford-27012020.pdf. Just don't post your answer, and how long it took you, in this topic
I was travelling uncompanied by bus at the age of 11 and had no problem reading time and fare tables without any prior instruction. Are there really that many people with such a low reading age?
Unfortunately, yes. And they probably make up a higher proportion of the bus-travelling public than they make up of the general population.
Unfortunately it's not reading age as such; it's much more a grasp of the concept and, I suspect, isn't something that's taught anymore. Plus the 24 hour clock is still something that people struggle with. Railways and airlines have similar issues.
@PeterC, I suspect you and I are of similar ages. When i was growing up there was a fare table next to the first seat on the right of an RT or RM and I would study it for lack of anything else to do to find whether walking to the next stop would, on occasion, save me a penny to enhance my pocket money. When I started teaching ('70s) timetables were on the CSE syllabus as something that was useful to know. With the revision of syllabuses, useful concepts like direct and indirect tax, utilities meters and timetables were replaced by a load of 'modern' stuff like topology, sets and symmetry (some of it was actually useful, much wasn't). Plus, many pupils now, especially those of people who devised these syllabuses, did not need to understand timetables, they just needed to phone a parent to say 'can you pick me up?' Plus, of course, with the push to pay 'contactless' it really doesn't matter what the fare is because you can (probably) pay it just by swiping.
Couldn't agree more. We could always call it 'Traveline'!
Could be worse could have an abomination of a website like Arriva have, Arriva has got to be the worst public transport website on the net
You’re correct on people paying by contactless - having set a little service run up earlier this year I find then majority of our passengers don’t really care what the fare is, they just present their card and that’s it job done. Possibly there’s an element of us ‘saving’ the service gets us a bit of leniency but even so, barely anyone actually asks what the fare is.
Agreed, totally incomprehensible and usually riddled with errors!
