GWR operating short 'HSTGTi' sets (see diagrams section for workings)

[D1009]

I travelled on one of the 2+4 HST sets yesterday, and I was very impressed. Wasn't expecting it, when it said "Four Carriages" I expected a double sprinter, then a HST came into view. Think the seating is ideal for the journeys involved, and there is plenty of luggage space too. Ideal for the Cornish holiday traffic

There is only one, I was on it yesterday from Plymouth to Newton Abbot, not often power has to be eased going up Hemerdon to avoid exceeding the 80 limit!

 

[Cowley]

There is only one, I was on it yesterday from Plymouth to Newton Abbot, not often power has to be eased going up Hemerdon to avoid exceeding the 80 limit!

Absolutely.
Really looking forward to a run on one of these soon.

 

[Deafdoggie]

There is only one, I was on it yesterday from Plymouth to Newton Abbot, not often power has to be eased going up Hemerdon to avoid exceeding the 80 limit!

I hadn’t realised there was only one at the moment. Although I hadn’t actually realised there were any! It kept loosing a couple of minutes, so timing seems a (small) issue but I still think they’re great. You must have got on as we got off!

 

[hexagon789]

I hadn’t realised there was only one at the moment. Although I hadn’t actually realised there were any! It kept loosing a couple of minutes, so timing seems a (small) issue but I still think they’re great. You must have got on as we got off!

I wonder if the timings are affected by Notch 5 being locked out.

 

[1e10]

Movement entered for Laira -> Wabtec tonight.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O88569/2018/04/08/advanced

 

[43096]

Movement entered for Laira -> Wabtec tonight.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O88569/2018/04/08/advanced

Should be 43004/042 and the next four trailers for GWR PRM work.

 

[D1009]

Should be 43004/042 and the next four trailers for GWR PRM work.

Are the power cars going to stay there while the work is done?

 

[43096]

Are the power cars going to stay there while the work is done?

They should be getting a coat of green paint whilst there, but given how long the trailers are taking, I'd expect them to come back before.

 

[83G/84D]

Short HST has shrunk- seen running as 2+3 today.

 

[Grumbler]

Short HST has shrunk- seen running as 2+3 today.

Next two passenger coaches, then one, then just two locos!

 

[TwistedMentat]

Next two passenger coaches, then one, then just two locos!

I’m sure many here wouldn’t mind riding in the power car.

 

[Ash Bridge]

I’m sure many here wouldn’t mind riding in the power car.

Well it wouldn't be the first time it happened in Cornwall.

 

[83G/84D]

Well it wouldn't be the first time it happened in Cornwall.

I take it that you are referring to the Newquay branch incident?!

 

[Ash Bridge]

I take it that you are referring to the Newquay branch incident?!

That's the one! Although wasn't that just a single powercar?

 

[387star]

Are there interior pics anywhere

 

[physics34]

Are there interior pics anywhere

has seen one or two and the interior is as was just with new GWR seat covers

 

[83G/84D]

That's the one! Although wasn't that just a single powercar?

Just one power car. Train derailed around Luxulyan bank and either the front or rear power car was detached and conveyed the passengers to Luxulyan station where a fleet of cars took them onward. Can’t recall if the train was going to or coming from Newquay.

There is an article online somewhere about it with photos.

 

[Dai Corner]

Just one power car. Train derailed around Luxulyan bank and either the front or rear power car was detached and conveyed the passengers to Luxulyan station where a fleet of cars took them onward. Can’t recall if the train was going to or coming from Newquay.

There is an article online somewhere about it with photos.

Here you go

http://www.luxsoft.demon.co.uk/village/hst.html

Luxulyan Photo Gallery

Derailment of a High Speed Train in the Valley
- the one car HST episode

The shortest HST formation ever to run in passenger service

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On Saturday 25th May 1991, High Speed Train power car No 43035 heading the 11.30 Newquay to Paddington derailed shortly after exiting Luxulyan tunnel. This left it perched perilously over the edge of a high embankment deep in the Luxulyan Valley.

Rather than attempt to de-train the passengers and all their luggage in this almost inaccessible location, they were all moved through to the rear power car, No 43029. After uncoupling, it returned at walking pace through the tunnel to Luxulyan Station where the passengers alighted and were taken to Par in a fleet of cars.

This movement of power car 43029 on its own was - and still is - the shortest ever High Speed Train formation ever to carry passengers.

Thankfully it was early in the season so there were few passengers aboard. More importantly, the HST's driver suspected a track problem on the outbound trip over to Newquay so, on the return, was proceeding with extreme caution. Had the train been moving at permitted line speed and it been a couple of Saturdays later, Luxulyan could well have been remembered rather differently.

Accompanied by pictures showing passengers alighting from the power car and the motor cars in which they completed their journeys.

 

[Ash Bridge]

Thanks both....a rather close shave was that!

 

[alexl92]

With these 2+4 HSTs, will GWR keep spare trailers on hand to expand capacity if needed?

 

[alexl92]

Just one power car. Train derailed around Luxulyan bank and either the front or rear power car was detached and conveyed the passengers to Luxulyan station where a fleet of cars took them onward. Can’t recall if the train was going to or coming from Newquay.

There is an article online somewhere about it with photos.

Why did they just detach the power car, and not a whole coach with it to put the passengers in? Still, makes a great story.

 

[43096]

Why did they just detach the power car, and not a whole coach with it to put the passengers in? Still, makes a great story.

Perhaps concern that with the front power car in a perilous position, detaching the coaches might have made it more likely the front power car would have gone down the embankment?

 

[superalbs]

Are there interior pics anywhere

You can rest assured knowing that these sets have also been fitted with announcements courtesy of Faye Dicker and her awful voice.

 

[CC 72100]

Still got the old VOLO TV brackets by the looks of it, must be a former coach D

 

[superalbs]

Still got the old VOLO TV brackets by the looks of it, must be a former coach D

That photo was taken in a coach D, not sure if it was a coach D in a full-set formation, presumably so.

 

[pdq]

Those massive grab handles always remind me of the Spitting Image puppet of Prince Charles...
https://goo.gl/images/1r88CP

 

[PHILIPE]

It ran today with only 3 Carriages due to water tank problem. Not doors this time.

 

[BestWestern]

Perhaps concern that with the front power car in a perilous position, detaching the coaches might have made it more likely the front power car would have gone down the embankment?

Could it have been related to the potential to drive/pilot the power car back the other way from the 'cab' position in the luggage van?

 

[Bletchleyite]

Those massive grab handles always remind me of the Spitting Image puppet of Prince Charles...
https://goo.gl/images/1r88CP

On the ATW 158s they look like Mickey Mouse ears on the narrow-headrest version of that seat.

That can't be the finished job as it hasn't got the LED lighting as some of the sets do.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Still got the old VOLO TV brackets by the looks of it, must be a former coach D

I take it that's the round thing with the raised bit in the middle, given that the rectangular bit is the safety card holder?