Definitely the 185s. Go like the clappers, sound amazing from the outside, yet are super quiet on the inside. I actually like the desiro seats (don't know what they're called), as albeit a bit hard, they have vary good lumbar and lateral support. Refurbishment only made them better by the looks of it, although I haven't been on a refurbished one yet.
Do you think? I think when the engine's running in the coach you're in, you can't help but be very aware of it. Not really a fan of 185s really though, I think I've been on them too often!
