Trivia - non-stationary stations

[Hornet]

And another, the station at Smethwick moved, becoming Smethwick Galton Bridge.

Smethwick Galton Bridge and Smethwick West were both open to passenger traffic between September 1995 and September 1996 (when Smethwick West was finally closed). Smethwick Rolfe Street remains open.

 

[The Quincunx]

At what point does a "move" become a closure and a new station requiring the full legal closure process for the original location?

There is nothing in the legislation to suggest any minimum distance. But because it talks of "discontinuation" of the use of the station, the practice has been to require a closure procedure to be instigated if the entire existing station (including car parks/approaches) is being abandoned. Hence, it was felt that no Bromsgrove did not actually move because there was an overlap between the land on which the "new" station stands and the "old" one.

 

[A0]

Welwyn Garden City - the original station was only on the line to Luton just beyond the junction with the ECML which is roughly where Welwyn Carriage sidings are now.

The replacement station was built in the town centre - the platforms survive in use to this day, but the building was demolished in the mid 80s when the Howard Centre was built.

 

[Taunton]

Hyndland in Glasgow moved quite a bit when the Blue Trains were introduced in 1961. The original was on a short terminating branch to the east, used only for trains which had come through the city. The new one was on the main line and served both directions. It was on a gradient which was outside the specification for a station, but was accepted as all services were now of electric stock with better brakes.

 

[racyrich]

Leigh on Sea is on station version 3 now.

In fact there's a few on the LTS. Stanford-no-Hope used to be staggered around the level crossing and now is all south/west of it.
I think Rainham's also migrated west. Benfleet too I seem to remember, when the road off Canvey was built.

Bromley-by-Bow is now the other side of the road bridge.

Canning Town is on at least its 3rd version and can't decide which side of the main road to be on.

More tenuously, Shadwell DLR is not on the site of Shadwell L&B. In fact various DLR stations are close to but not on the site of their L&B or NLR predecessors.

 

[xotGD]

Can we class Wakefield Westgate as having moved? While the platforms are in the same place, the rest of the station facilities have been relocated. I suppose this is similar to the London Underground examples where the surface entry point was moved when it switched from lifts to escalators.

 

[AlterEgo]

Pelaw's moved a few times, if we're including metro systems.

 

[A0]

Eltham - replaced two stations one 200m one way and the other about 400m the other when part of the A2 was redeveloped.

 

[mcmad]

Forres is currently moving

 

[gsnedders]

Arguably Leuchars moved; the original Leuchars stations was 45 chains north on the Tayport line, and Leuchars Junction station, opened 43 years before the original station closed, was built south of the junction where the main line to the Tay Bridge diverges (and north of the junction to St Andrews).

I believe the original Leuchars station was actually closed when Leuchars Junction opened, but was quickly reopened due to demand from within the village, which in a sense is a further argument for it being moved!

 

[PDG1949]

St. Helens (Lancs) station moved 4 times between 1833 and 1871....

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/sites_s.shtml

 

[a_c_skinner]

Trivia: Stationary Stations would obviously have been a better question. What irritates me is the number I should have known.

Andrew

 

[xotGD]

Looking at the old maps I was wrong about Bishop Auckland - the 'new' station occupies part of the site of the original.

 

[D6975]

At what point does a "move" become a closure and a new station requiring the full legal closure process for the original location?

I think Brightside in Sheffield didn't have to go through the full closure procedure because the new replacement at Meadowhall was sufficiently close by.

 

[swt_passenger]

The coast section of the North Tyne loop had a number of track realignments or complete re-routeings, resulting in stations being significantly repositioned in the early years. Monkseaton, Whitley Bay, and Cullercoats were all relocated to a lesser or greater degree, with Cullercoats being moved about half a mile towards the coast; while Tynemouth is at its third or fourth location by now...

 

[Liam]

In Northern Ireland, Bellarena was to the other side of a level crossing, with another platform and passing loop added. Derry's Waterside station was moved in the 80's, but might be moving back in the future.

 

[DynamicSpirit]

Don't think anyone has mentioned these yet (but it's a long thread so I may have missed something)...

• Windermere. Quite similar to what happened at Morecambe, as mentioned by the OP. Original building sold (turned into a supermarket) during the 1980s, with the line terminating a bit short of the previous location. I'm not sure of the precise reasons, but I'd assume it was to do with raising cash, since the new location is rather obviously less convenient for anyone arriving by foot than the previous location.
• Blackfriars - the obvious one in London. Moved South in - I think - 2011 - so it could have an entrance on the South bank of the Thames, and with a revised track layout (I'm not sure if that was intended to assist with the recent Thameslink capacity works or whether or whether that was unconnected).
• Abbey Wood - slightly cheeky, as it's not much of a move. Station entrance and buildings demolished and a new, bigger, ones about to open in a week's time. The old building/main entrance was on Wilton Road, the new building and entrance is on Harrow Manorway - so a definite move of station buildings. Track more questionable, since the platforms are basically in the same place, although existing track has been slewed over a bit.

 

[a_c_skinner]

Windermere has been mentioned, I shop in the supermarket. I'm sure it was money, but the new location is arguably better as it allows a mini bus station, which actually seems to function well.

Blackfriars was in part to avoid conflicting moves into the Snow Hill Tunnel for Thameslink.

Andrew

 

[nowananorack]

Tanygrisiau
Bolton
Griffiths Crossing

Blaenau Ffestiniog. There have been an number of FR and NR/LNER/GWR/BR stations in the area. The present joint Station was built on the site of the GWR Exchange station of 1883. Prior to its opening, this new station was usually called Blaenau Ffestiniog Central by which name the former GWR Exchange station had been known from 1948 until its closure.
More information on www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/Blaenau_Ffestiniog

 

[swt_passenger]

Don't think anyone has mentioned these yet (but it's a long thread so I may have missed something)...
Blackfriars - the obvious one in London. Moved South in - I think - 2011 - so it could have an entrance on the South bank of the Thames, and with a revised track layout (I'm not sure if that was intended to assist with the recent Thameslink capacity works or whether or whether that was unconnected).

Definitely part of the Thameslink project - and already mentioned in the thread at post #45. Main purpose of the rebuild was to provide four 12 car platforms, and also reposition the bays on the west side, to work better with the originally intended service pattern. The south entrance was something of a bonus, not actually a reason for doing it AFAICT.

 

[FenMan]

Reading Southern and Reading General.

I think the Reading Southern platforms terminated in what is now the 1980s ticket hall.

 

[sk688]

Uckfield got resited I believe , on the other side of the level crossing

Preston Road on the Met used to be on the other side of the bridge

 

[LDECRexile]

Blaenau Ffestiniog. There have been an number of FR and NR/LNER/GWR/BR stations in the area. The present joint Station was built on the site of the GWR Exchange station of 1883. Prior to its opening, this new station was usually called Blaenau Ffestiniog Central by which name the former GWR Exchange station had been known from 1948 until its closure.
More information on www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/Blaenau_Ffestiniog

Please also see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaenau_Ffestiniog_passenger_stations

 

[6Gman]

Reading Southern and Reading General.

I think the Reading Southern platforms terminated in what is now the 1980s ticket hall.

Aberystwyth (VoR) moved into the Carmarthen platforms of the main station having previously - I believe - been on the other side of the road.

 

[LDECRexile]

Port Dinorwic

 

[Trackman]

Tanygrisiau
Bolton
Griffiths Crossing

Bolton has moved 3 times

 

[satisnek]

Can we class Wakefield Westgate as having moved? While the platforms are in the same place, the rest of the station facilities have been relocated. I suppose this is similar to the London Underground examples where the surface entry point was moved when it switched from lifts to escalators.

If the answer is 'yes' then Birmingham New Street can be included.

In fact, Exmouth and Stourbridge Town (No. 2) can be included in this category, since both are/were truncations of the existing platform.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the London terminus of the former Midland Railway...

 

[takno]

If the answer is 'yes' then Birmingham New Street can be included.

In fact, Exmouth and Stourbridge Town (No. 2) can be included in this category, since both are/were truncations of the existing platform.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the London terminus of the former Midland Railway...

Weren't the platforms all ripped out and reconfigured at New Street in the 60s as well? I mean I guess it's still all in the same hole, but it's barely the same station

 

[Harbon 1]

Burton shuffled a little closer to Birmingham many many moons ago.

 

[greyman42]

If the answer is 'yes' then Birmingham New Street can be included.

In fact, Exmouth and Stourbridge Town (No. 2) can be included in this category, since both are/were truncations of the existing platform.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the London terminus of the former Midland Railway...

Please explain your reasoning. I would not say that St. Pancras has moved.