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Pathfinder potential tour B'ham to Carlisle

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50 and 56 Bham Intl to Carlisle 1st August, same day as Spitfire, anyone intersted?
 
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Tempting but i think i will stick with Spitfires spin and win.
 

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What is the proposed route for the Pathfinder? Quite fancy the Spitfire one myself as it picks up at Sheffield, which means I can get to and from it by service train without any overnights, and still get all the traction offering :). Will either tour be formed of [spits] air-conditioned stock do you think?
 

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im not sure, spitfires shouldnt bcos they always use mk1s from west coast, pathfinder should be mk1s as well but im not totatlly 100% about it yet
 

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Do Spitfire always use the WCR Mk Is? If so, that'll save me from e-mailing them asking if they'll be using horrible aircons on their Cumbrian Crusader tour, which looks like a cracker.
 

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they have for everything apart from the 87 tour last year, wcrc mk1s are 99.9% of the time used by spitfire
 

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The Cumbrian coatser had aircon Mk2's on it.

So you couldn't stick yer head out near them very narrow bridges and get it removed by the brick/stone work. Stewards were asked to keep people out of the vestiblues during that part of the journey.

Guess that takes it below 99.9% of the time
 
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Don't mind aircons in first class, since I won't be in that part of any tour.
 

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I think it also depends what stock is available at the time as regards to whether aircons are used.
 
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I think it also depends what stock is available at the time as regards to whether aircons are used.

Ooooh, very awkward. Makes planning to avoid tours with aircons all the more difficult, and the likelihood of disappointment all the higher :(
 

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Ooooh, very awkward. Makes planning to avoid tours with aircons all the more difficult, and the likelihood of disappointment all the higher :(
As far as i'm aware there should not be any aircons on the Spitfire spin and win as there is no ETH device.
 

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Will this tour be 50's to Leeds and a 56 onwards then? If it happens...
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Judging by PF's lack of actually asking the C50A whether or not they can use their 50 will decide whether it goes ahead or not.

50044 is the only one mainline capable at the moment. 50031 is still out pending generator repairs and 50049 is out with wheelset repairs and overhaul.
 

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Judging by PF's lack of actually asking the C50A whether or not they can use their 50 will decide whether it goes ahead or not.

50044 is the only one mainline capable at the moment. 50031 is still out pending generator repairs and 50049 is out with wheelset repairs and overhaul.

Who said anything about this tour being worked by a C50A machine? ;)
 

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Will this tour be 50's to Leeds and a 56 onwards then? If it happens...

Other way round I believe

Who said anything about this tour being worked by a C50A machine? ;)

Got about two months to repair no.8, fit the safety gear, repaint and test it with I would have thought the need to run it in on a pres line first, can you see it happening? Fair play if they do though.
 

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Gen from PATHFINDER on WNXX:

The plan is for the Hanson 56 to work Birmingham Int - Crewe - Huddersfield - Leeds and back and 50008 Leeds - Carlisle - Hexham - York - Leeds. However, all factors are yet to be tied down so this gen is still to be taken as indicative.
 

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Got about two months to repair no.8, fit the safety gear, repaint and test it with I would have thought the need to run it in on a pres line first, can you see it happening? Fair play if they do though.

I was only relaying what Pathfinder posted, it does seem a rather tall order considering the loco was only started this week and last hauled a train in around 1992, so I will reserve judgement! However these things do sometimes happen - I remember back in May 1999 when I was involved in the DPS, at 3pm on Thursday we had an uncertified Deltic on jacks at Crewe HC. By 6pm it was on a test run and at 08.03 on the Saturday it left King's Cross on a tour for York and back!
 

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I was only relaying what Pathfinder posted, it does seem a rather tall order considering the loco was only started this week and last hauled a train in around 1992, so I will reserve judgement! However these things do sometimes happen - I remember back in May 1999 when I was involved in the DPS, at 3pm on Thursday we had an uncertified Deltic on jacks at Crewe HC. By 6pm it was on a test run and at 08.03 on the Saturday it left King's Cross on a tour for York and back!

I agree, providing they encounter nothing major with it I would certainly think it possible, maybe just me, hear its a 50 and look at the others we see on the mainline, operated by a pres group with volunteer resources, if Hanson have got guys doing 8 hours + a day on this machine for the next 9 or 10 weeks then I don't see why it couldn't be done. Hope it goes well for them, be nice to see it out and about again. Regardless of whether it works on August 1st though I won't be there to sample it as otherwise enganged, look forward to when I can though!
 

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Do Spitfire always use the WCR Mk Is? If so, that'll save me from e-mailing them asking if they'll be using horrible aircons on their Cumbrian Crusader tour, which looks like a cracker.

If it was being routed via the Cumbrian Coast, as what the Cumbrian Coaster tour will be doing on the return leg, then the booked stock will be air-conditioned coaches due to clearance issues between Maryport and Carlisle banning Mk1/Mk2 PVs from being used on that section.
 

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If it was being routed via the Cumbrian Coast, as what the Cumbrian Coaster tour will be doing on the return leg, then the booked stock will be air-conditioned coaches due to clearance issues between Maryport and Carlisle banning Mk1/Mk2 PVs from being used on that section.
Alex where in the sectional appendix does it say that?
 
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