TOPS Requests (including headcodes, allocations, traction, etc) [Instructions in Post 2]

[37078xotTE]

thanks fella.

Now, can anyone help with the class 700/0 that worked 1g79 17:30 beckenham junction to bedford yesterday, please?

700029

 

[37078xotTE]

just seeing this pulling into willesden prdc 3 x 325 units can anyone help with the ids

17.00 warrington mail db - willesden prdc

Sorry can't help you with what worked this yesterday (3rd) as the allocations have dropped off the system but 325007, 011 & 013 worked a return working for Willesden to Warrington this morning and are due to work the same service (1A91) tonight.

 

[Haywain]

700029

Many thanks. My mind was playing tricks with me as I thought that was it but I had it in the morning as well so convinced myself I must be wrong!

Now, pushing my luck a lot, but am I too late for these:

Hi,
Can anyone tell me which class 700s were working the following trains please?
Monday 26th June 1W96 16:35 Brighton to Bedford
Tuesday 27th June 1E98 17:00 Sevenoaks to Bedford
Today 28th June 2E21 08:22 Luton to Sevenoaks
Many thanks, I’ve not been paying enough attention this week!

 

[Far north 37]

Sorry can't help you with what worked this yesterday (3rd) as the allocations have dropped off the system but 325007, 011 & 013 worked a return working for Willesden to Warrington this morning and are due to work the same service (1A91) tonight.

thank you for that

 

[Far north 37]

any help with this one

12.37 tonbridge yard gbrf - wolverton sidings

 

[chrisncal54]

any help with this one

12.37 tonbridge yard gbrf - wolverton sidings

5Z13 313203. No idea if it's being hauled or under its own power - sorry.

 

[palmersears]

Just been passed a heaving Wembley yard. Any idea which locos were there as of 1645?

 

[Far north 37]

5Z13 313203. No idea if it's being hauled or under its own power - sorry.

thanks for that ill go see anyway

 

[sluf]

hi guys

anyone know which 2 scruffy EWS liveried class 90s were heading south through Preston approx 12.10 this lunchtime on what looked like a Russall container train? cheers if anyone knows.

 

[TimboM]

hi guys

anyone know which 2 scruffy EWS liveried class 90s were heading south through Preston approx 12.10 this lunchtime on what looked like a Russall container train? cheers if anyone knows.

Scruffy EWS 90s - narrows it down to a few...! But a hunch tells me could well be 90037 as one of the culprits fitting that description, and guess what...

90037 + 90039

on 4M25 Mossend-Daventry, passed through Preston at 12:08, 93 Late.

 

[sluf]

Thanks for that

 

[TimboM]

Just been passed a heaving Wembley yard. Any idea which locos were there as of 1645?

This working (0B34) arrived from Dollands Moor just before then, which will be probably a lot of what you saw - a very distinctive consist if you did:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H13038/2017/07/04/advanced

Made up of:
66136 DB Red with Yiwu-London (China freight special) branding; hauling:
67003 Plain Arriva Blue
67005 Royal Loco (Black)
67021 EWS
92016 DB Red

Other ones that were showing as being at Wembley Yard/WEFOC late morning that may help with what some of what you saw (bit of a manual collation, but hopefully picked up all/most of them) - non-descript EWS 66s though:

66006 EWS Maroon
66024 EWS Maroon
66091 EWS Maroon
66095 EWS (+ DB stickers)

Also the following Caledonian Sleeper liveried locos are in/around Willesden TMD and Wembley this afternoon/evening - some probably out of sight, but some may have been outside the TMD or in the Wembley Loco Holding Sidings:

87002
86101

92018
92023
92033

+90047 (Freightliner Grey)

DRS 57301 "Goliath" is also in/around Willesden at the moment I believe.

 

[palmersears]

This working arrived from Dollands Moor just before then, which will be probably a lot of what you saw - a pretty distinctive consist if you did:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H13038/2017/07/04/advanced

Made up of:
66136DB Red with Yiwu-London (China freight special) branding; hauling:
67003Plain Arriva Blue
67005Royal Loco (Black)
67021EWS
92016DB Red

Other ones that were showing as being at Wembley Yard/WEFOC late morning that may help with what some of what you saw (bit of a manual collation, but hopefully picked up all/most of them) - non-descript EWS 66s though:

66006EWS Maroon
66024EWS Maroon
66091EWS Maroon
66095EWS (+ DB stickers)

Also the following Caledonian Sleeper liveried locos are in/around Willesden TMD and Wembley this afternoon/evening - some probably out of sight, but some may have been outside the TMD or in the Wembley Loco Holding Sidings:

87002
86101

92018
92023
92033

+90047 (Freightliner Grey)

DRS 57301 "Goliath" is also in/around Willesden at the moment I believe.

Excellent, thanks Timbo.

One further question for everyone, which ATW DVT is at Crewe LNWR (Now called Arriva Traincare)? I'm hoping it's 82306!

 

[Far north 37]

This working (0B34) arrived from Dollands Moor just before then, which will be probably a lot of what you saw - a very distinctive consist if you did:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H13038/2017/07/04/advanced

Made up of:
66136 DB Red with Yiwu-London (China freight special) branding; hauling:
67003 Plain Arriva Blue
67005 Royal Loco (Black)
67021 EWS
92016 DB Red

Other ones that were showing as being at Wembley Yard/WEFOC late morning that may help with what some of what you saw (bit of a manual collation, but hopefully picked up all/most of them) - non-descript EWS 66s though:

66006 EWS Maroon
66024 EWS Maroon
66091 EWS Maroon
66095 EWS (+ DB stickers)

Also the following Caledonian Sleeper liveried locos are in/around Willesden TMD and Wembley this afternoon/evening - some probably out of sight, but some may have been outside the TMD or in the Wembley Loco Holding Sidings:

87002
86101

92018
92023
92033

+90047 (Freightliner Grey)

DRS 57301 "Goliath" is also in/around Willesden at the moment I believe.

i assume the working from the dollands moor is going to be whats on the 19.49 working from wembley yard to crewe emd tonight then possibly

 

[TimboM]

i assume the working from the dollands moor is going to be whats on the 19.49 working from wembley yard to crewe emd tonight then possibly

Could well be, although that path is a "permanent" path, so will have to see if it's used, or if they'll stable the locos there tonight and run some other time.

It's almost certain that Crewe IEMD is where these locos are heading though - the 67s and DB 92s are all based there and the DB 92s only appear away from the Tunnel/HS1 these days when they're heading there...

 

[TimboM]

Excellent, thanks Timbo.

One further question for everyone, which ATW DVT is at Crewe LNWR (Now called Arriva Traincare)? I'm hoping it's 82306!

67020 hauled 82306 (and nothing else) from Cardiff to Crewe C.S. (which I think is what is LNWR/Arriva Traincare) on Thursday (29 June) - 5Z23.

So looking promising - hopefully someone can confirm 100% that was what you saw.

 

[Far north 37]

Could well be, although that path is a "permanent" path, so will have to see if it's used, or if they'll stable the locos there tonight and run some other time.

It's almost certain that Crewe IEMD is where these locos are heading though - the 67s and DB 92s are all based there and the DB 92s only appear away from the Tunnel/HS1 these days when they're heading there...

yeah its been activated to run tonight what are all those 67s doing down at dollands moor didnt realise they worked down that way

 

[Freightmaster]

...what are all those 67s doing down at dollands moor didnt realise they worked down that way

AFAIK, they go there for fuel.


MARK

 

[Far north 37]

AFAIK, they go there for fuel.


MARK

ah ok i wonder where from though ive seen come to acton for fuel from wembley seems a bit far doesnt it

 

[Kite159]

For tomorrow please

What services are the following 43s due to be on:
43029
43032
43138
43148
43152

Thanks in advance

 

[TimboM]

ah ok i wonder where from though ive seen come to acton for fuel from wembley seems a bit far doesnt it

The 0K06 path to Crewe IEMD has now been cancelled. It's actually a path they have in every weekday, so could be any day they run it, or they may stick a completed different (V)STP in.

...whilst TOPS locations can be a bit misleading at times, it seems that the 3x 67s have been working railtours/ECS moves mostly recently (including Belmond Pullman) in the SE, then were at Stewart's Lane TMD for past few days (but that may be one of those "not really there locations"...)

They were all then showing as being on a VSTP yesterday from Wembley EFOC to Dollands Moor. 66136 then went all the way from Scunthorpe(!) last night to pick them up, plus 92016, then bring them back to Wembley!? Seems a little strange - if nothing else, why not leave the 67s at Wembley (if they were indeed there) and hook them up once 66136 got there with the 92? And you'd think DB have other 66s other than one in Scunthorpe...?? DB changed all their staffing/rosters etc. on 1st July though didn't they...

 

[chrisncal54]

ah ok i wonder where from though ive seen come to acton for fuel from wembley seems a bit far doesnt it

Daft as it is, you'd hope that DBC locos at Wembley wouldn't have to travel to Dollands Moor for re-fuelling!

 

[Far north 37]

Daft as it is, you'd hope that DBC locos at Wembley wouldn't have to travel to Dollands Moor for re-fuelling!

i always thought locos from wembley came to acton for refuelling see it happen a lot unless there was a problem there

 

[Far north 37]

The 0K06 path to Crewe IEMD has now been cancelled. It's actually a path they have in every weekday, so could be any day they run it, or they may stick a completed different (V)STP in.

...whilst TOPS locations can be a bit misleading at times, it seems that the 3x 67s have been working railtours/ECS moves mostly recently (including Belmond Pullman) in the SE, then were at Stewart's Lane TMD for past few days (but that may be one of those "not really there locations"...)

They were all then showing as being on a VSTP yesterday from Wembley EFOC to Dollands Moor. 66136 then went all the way from Scunthorpe(!) last night to pick them up, plus 92016, then bring them back to Wembley!? Seems a little strange - if nothing else, why not leave the 67s at Wembley (if they were indeed there) and hook them up once 66136 got there with the 92? And you'd think DB have other 66s other than one in Scunthorpe...?? DB changed all their staffing/rosters etc. on 1st July though didn't they...

maybe the 66 ran dit in the scunthorpe dollands moor train possibly

 

[TimboM]

Daft as it is, you'd hope that DBC locos at Wembley wouldn't have to travel to Dollands Moor for re-fuelling!

Even more daft - it appears they've gone from Wembley to Dollands Moor, just to be brought back again...

As they were towed by the 66 from Dollands Moor (I believe) and appears going on to Crewe IEMD, they shouldn't have needed any fuel at Dollands Moor. All very strange...

With all the restructured DB operations on 1 July, may have been an opportunity for driver training/route learning?

 

[TimboM]

maybe the 66 ran dit in the scunthorpe dollands moor train possibly

66136 appears to have hauled 4028 solo - but that would make sense as it's then taken on by 92s through the tunnel. I'd forgotten about the Scunthorpe-Dollands Moor steel working - so makes more sense now as the 66 would've been there anyway.

Still a bit odd why the 67s went down there to get picked up along with the 92, when they could have just been added to the caravan at Wembley, but maybe the driver training explanation is the reason?

 

[Far north 37]

66136 appears to have hauled 4028 solo - but that would make sense as it's then taken on by 92s through the tunnel. I'd forgotten about the Scunthorpe-Dollands Moor steel working - so makes more sense now as the 66 would've been there anyway.

Still a bit odd why the 67s went down there to get picked up along with the 92, when they could have just been added to the caravan at Wembley, but maybe the driver training explanation is the reason?

all does seem very strange be interesting to find out but maybe taking the thread of topic now

 

[Peter0124]

Hello again, I'd like to know the following allocations for Wednesday 5th July 2017:

318254
318266

Thanks.

 

[dcd]

Can anyone please tell me what 158808 is working today 5th July.
Thanks in advance

 

[37078xotTE]

hi,
can anyone tell me which class 700s were working the following trains please?
Monday 26th june 1w96 16:35 brighton to bedford
tuesday 27th june 1e98 17:00 sevenoaks to bedford
today 28th june 2e21 08:22 luton to sevenoaks
many thanks, i’ve not been paying enough attention this week!

700107
700025
700017