Great Western Livery

[D6975]

I'm quite supprised by how many 08s are on the livery list, I didn't think GWR would have that many. Which depot is each one based at? I think Landore has two, but which ones?

08410 Penzance
08483 OC
08641 LA
08663 St Philips Marsh
08795 Landore
08822 St Philips Marsh
08836 OC
are the last know locations that I know of.


In addition to those listed, 08644 was at Laira then went away supposedly for repair but didn't come back. I'm not sure where it is now.

ps 08645 used to be at Laira too, don't know what happened to that either.

 

[jimm]

For the hoppers to be removed I would expect a 99.9%+ reliability of air cooling, otherwise the failures will lead to passenger action issues.

Chiltern took out all the hopper windows when they installed similar kit on the 165/0s, a system that has been pretty much bombproof since day one, so really can't see why GWR would do anything different.

 

[455driver]

In addition to those listed, 08644 was at Laira then went away supposedly for repair but didn't come back. I'm not sure where it is now.

Laira, I was driving it down there a few weeks ago.

 

[RPM]

Chiltern took out all the hopper windows when they installed similar kit on the 165/0s, a system that has been pretty much bombproof since day one, so really can't see why GWR would do anything different.

The Chiltern sytem uses 4 separate air cooling units per coach, so even if there is a failure it will only tend to affect part of a coach. The down side is it uses up quite a lot of the former luggage rack space.

 

[greaterwest]

Pass and no; still blue.

For the hoppers to be removed I would expect a 99.9%+ reliability of air cooling, otherwise the failures will lead to passenger action issues.

It would appear the hoppers have not been removed, nor have they been locked shut (one is slightly open in this picture!)

by Steve . on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859544@N03/34413152303/

It's looking very smart though, even if it does still retain the Dynamic Lines livery.

 

[Deepgreen]

It would appear the hoppers have not been removed, nor have they been locked shut (one is slightly open in this picture!)

by Steve . on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859544@N03/34413152303/

It's looking very smart though, even if it does still retain the Dynamic Lines livery.

It looks like at least two hoppers are slightly open. Quirky, to say the least, that a unit that's been OOS for so long should return in the old livery!

This while GWR have told me that they can't supply the first class antimacassars for the huge number missing from the 166s as they haven't got the GWR-style ones!

Does the white roof extend to the passenger saloons or just the cab?

 

[greaterwest]

It looks like at least two hoppers are slightly open. Quirky, to say the least, that a unit that's been OOS for so long should return in the old livery!

This while GWR have told me that they can't supply the first class antimacassars for the huge number missing from the 166s as they haven't got the GWR-style ones!

Does the white roof extend to the passenger saloons or just the cab?

From the picture it's not too clear. Given that it's been fitted with new air conditioning cooling, it may well extend across the top of the entire train.

 

[jimm]

From the picture it's not too clear. Given that it's been fitted with new air conditioning, it may well extend across the top of the entire train.

For the umpteenth time, the 165/1s, like the Chiltern 165/0s, are being fitted with air cooling - which is not air conditioning.

In basic terms, air cooling does what it says on the tin - cools the air. Air conditioning systems also dehumidify the air.

The crash repair contract probably called for the damaged car to be returned to the condition it was running in at the time it derailed, so that would be a full-length white roof.

Green paint will have to wait until it is 165124's turn to go to Wolverton.

 

[greaterwest]

For the umpteenth time, the 165/1s, like the Chiltern 165/0s, are being fitted with air cooling - which is not air conditioning.

In basic terms, air cooling does what it says on the tin - cools the air. Air conditioning systems also dehumidify the air.

The crash repair contract probably called for the damaged car to be returned to the condition it was running in at the time it derailed, so that would be a full-length white roof.

Green paint will have to wait until it is 165124's turn to go to Wolverton.

I wasn't trying to deceive you or anyone else by saying "air conditioning", it was a force of habit and accidental mis-wording on my part. I am aware of the differences between the two, thank you.

That said, as long as it has some effect at cooling the air I don't really care how it works given past experiences with the GWR 16x fleet.

 

[Kite159]

I didn't realise that 158766 was green, I must keep up at the state of play with the 158s

 

[59CosG95]

LOCOS
Class 08 Shunters:
410-BR Green livery.
483 "NEIL"/"SCOUSEY"-BR Black livery.
641-Modified BR Blue livery, with grey roof & yellow cabside windows.
663 "St. Silas"-BR Blue livery.
795-BR Black livery.
822 "Dave Mills"-INTERCITY Swallow livery.
836-New GWR livery.

Class 43 powercars:
002 "Sir Kenneth Grange"-Original IC125 Blue/yellow livery. Also has black GWR logos on the windows of the sliding doors toward the rear of the car.
003 "ISAMBARD KINGDOM BRUNEL"-FGW livery.
004-FGW livery.
005-New GWR livery.
009-FGW livery.
010-FGW livery.
012 "Exeter Panel Signal Box 21st Anniversary 2009"-FGW livery.
015-FGW livery.
016-New GWR livery. Modified for HSTGTi operations, number beneath cab, GWR logo transferred rather than cast.
017 "Hannahs discoverhannahs.org"-FGW livery.
018-FGW livery.
020 "MTU Power. Passion. Partnership."-FGW livery.
021 "David Austin-Cartoonist"-FGW livery.
022 "The Duke of Edinburgh's Award Diamond Anniversary 1956-2016"-FGW Livery
023 "SQN LDR Harold Starr One of the Few"-FGW livery.
024 "Great Western Society 1961-2011 Didcot Railway Centre"-FGW livery.
025 "The Institute of Railway Operators 2000-2010 TEN YEARS OF PROMOTING OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE"-FGW livery.
026 "Michael Eavis"-FGW livery.
027-"90 Glorious Years" livery to commemmorate HM The Queen's 90th Birthday.
028-FGW livery.
029-FGW livery.
030 "Christian Lewis Trust"-FGW livery.
031-FGW livery.
032-FGW livery.
033 "Driver Brian Cooper 15th June 1947-5th October 1999"-FGW livery.
034 "TravelWatch South West"-FGW livery.
035-FGW livery.
036-FGW livery.
037 "PENYDARREN"-FGW livery.
040 "Bristol St. Philip's Marsh"-FGW livery.
041 "Meningitis Trust Support For Life"-New GWR livery.
042-FGW livery.
053 "University of Worcester"-FGW livery.
056 "The Royal British Legion"-FGW livery.
063-FGW livery.
069-FGW livery.
070 "The Corps of Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers"-FGW livery.
071-FGW livery.
078-FGW livery.
079-FGW livery.
086-FGW livery.
087 "11 Explosive Ordnance Disposal Regiment Royal Logistics Corps"-FGW livery.
088-FGW livery.
091-FGW livery.
092-FGW livery.
093-New GWR livery. Modified for HSTGTi operations (I think), number beneath cab, GWR logo transferred rather than cast.
094-FGW livery.
097 "Environment Agency"-FGW livery.
098-FGW livery.
122-FGW livery.
124-FGW livery.
125-FGW livery.
126-Advertising livery: BRISTOL 2015 European Green Capital.
127 "Sir Peter Parker 1924-2002 Cotswold Line 150"-FGW livery.
128-FGW livery.
129-FGW livery.
130-FGW livery.
131-FGW livery.
132 "We Save the Children-will you?"-FGW livery.
133-FGW livery.
134-FGW livery.
135-FGW livery.
136-FGW livery.
137 "Newton Abbott 150"-FGW livery.
138-FGW livery.
139 "Driver Stan Martin 25 June 1950-6 November 2004"-FGW livery.
140 "Depo Diesel Glandŵr 1963 Dathlu 50 Mlynedd 2013/Landore Diesel Depot 1963 Celebrating 50 Years 2013"-FGW livery.
141 "Cardiff Panel Signal Box 1966-2016/Blwch Signalau Panel Caerdydd 1966-2016"-FGW livery.
142 "Reading Panel Signal Box 1965-2010"-FGW livery.
143 "Stroud 700"-FGW livery.
144-Advertising livery: BUILDING A GREATER WEST (countryside images)
145-FGW livery.
146-FGW livery. "BUILDING A GREATER WEST" vinyls now removed.
147 "Royal Marines Celebrating 350 Years"-FGW livery.
148-FGW livery.
149 "University of Plymouth"-FGW livery.
150-FGW livery.
151-FGW livery.
152-FGW livery.
153-FGW livery.
154-FGW livery.
155 "The Red Arrows 50 Seasons of Excellence"-FGW livery.
156 "Dartington International Summer School"-FGW livery.
158-FGW livery.
159-FGW livery.
160 "Sir Moir Lockhead OBE"-FGW livery.
161-FGW livery.
162-FGW livery.
163-Advertising livery: Visit Plymouth
164-FGW livery.
165 "Prince Michael of Kent"-FGW livery.
168-FGW livery.
169 "THE NATIONAL TRUST"-FGW livery.
170-FGW livery.
171-FGW livery.
172 "Harry Patch The Last survivor of the trenches"-Black & Orange commemorative livery. FGW logo still present.
174-FGW livery.
175 "GWR-175th Anniversary"-FGW livery.
176-FGW livery.
177-FGW livery.
179 "Pride of Laira"-FGW livery.
180-FGW livery.
181-FGW livery.
182-FGW livery.
183-FGW livery.
185 "Great Western"-INTERCITY Swallow livery, complete with cast swallow. Also has white GWR logos on the windows of the sliding doors toward the rear of the car.
186-FGW livery.
187-New GWR livery. Carrying "Y Cymro-The Welshman" branding.
188-New GWR livery. Carrying "Y Cymro-The Welshman" branding.
189 "RAILWAY HERITAGE TRUST"-FGW livery.
190-FGW livery.
191-FGW livery.
192-FGW livery.
193-FGW livery.
194-New GWR livery. Modified for HSTGTi operations (I think), number beneath cab, GWR logo transferred rather than cast.
195-FGW livery.
196-FGW livery.
197-FGW livery.
198 "Oxfordshire 2007"-New GWR livery. Modified for HSTGTi operations (I think), number beneath cab, GWR logo transferred rather than cast.

Class 57 sleeper/crank-ex locos:
57602 "Restormel Castle"-GWR (new) livery.
57603 "Tintagel Castle"-GWR (new) livery.
57604 "PENDENNIS CASTLE"-GWR (traditional) livery.
57605 "Totnes Castle"-GWR (new) livery.

(Many thanks to @co-tr-paul for Night Riviera-related updates; check his thread out here)

COACHES
HST trailer sets:
LA01-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA02-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA03-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA04-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA05-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA06-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA07-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA08-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA09-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA10-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA11-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA12-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA13-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA14-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA15-New GWR livery.
LA16-New GWR livery.
OC30-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC31-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC32-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC33-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC34-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC35-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC36-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC37-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC38-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC40-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC41-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC42-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC43-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC44-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC45-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC46-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC47-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC48-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC49-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC50-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC51-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC52-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC53-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC54-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC55-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC56-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC57-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA60-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA61-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA62-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA63-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA64-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA71-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA72-Currently undergoing overhaul. Due to be returning from Derby in GWR Green.
LA73-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA74-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA75-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA spares: 40 (119, 231, 718, 811), 41 (004, 103, 116, 137, 176), 42 (049, 083, 095, 101, 102, 196, 294, 356, 381), 44 (002, 059, 083)
OO spare: 44024
PM spare: 44100

Sleeper coaches:
All GW 105xx and 106xx SLEP coaches in GWR silver & green.
All BFO coaches (17173-5) in GWR silver & green.
TSOs:
All TSOs in GWR silver & green, with the exception of:
10217 (ex-Virgin, undergoing refurb at Wolverton as a replacement for 10232),
&
10232 (not getting refurbished as severe corrosion means going off-lease, and probably scrap).

DMUs
Class 150/1s are not included here, as they are expected to leave the franchise.
Class 143:
603-FGW Local Lines livery.
611-FGW Local Lines livery.
612-FGW Local Lines livery.
617-FGW Local Lines livery.
618-FGW Local Lines livery.
619-FGW Local Lines livery.
620-FGW Local Lines livery.
621-FGW Local Lines livery.

Class 150/0:
Both 150001 and 150002 are in GWR Green.

Class 150/2:
202-New GWR livery.
216-FGW livery.
219-FGW livery. New Dot-Matrix display on front.
221-FGW Local Lines livery.
232-New GWR livery.
233-New GWR livery.
234-New GWR livery.
238-FGW livery. New Dot-Matrix display on front.
239-New GWR livery.
243-At Wolverton for repaint.
244-New GWR livery.
246-New GWR livery.
247-New GWR livery. Also has finalised interior.
248-New GWR livery.
249-FGW Local Lines livery.
261 "The Tarka Line - The First 25 Years 1989-2014"-FGW livery.
263-New GWR livery.
265-FGW Local Lines livery.
266-New GWR livery.

Class 153
305-Two-tone Grey livery.
318-New GWR livery.
325-"Citizensrail.org" advertising livery.
329-FGW Local Lines livery.
333-"Visit South Devon" advertising livery.
361-FGW Local Lines livery.
368-New GWR livery.
369-FGW Local Lines livery.
370-New GWR livery.
372-New GWR livery.
373-New GWR livery.
377-New GWR livery.
380-At Long Marston for re-vinyling.
382-FGW Local Lines livery.


Class 158
763-FGW Local Lines livery.
766-New GWR livery.
798-Advertising livery: Springboard Opportunity Group
950-New GWR livery.
951-New GWR livery.
952-FGW Local Lines livery.
953-FGW Local Lines livery.
954-FGW Local Lines livery.
955-FGW Local Lines livery.
956-New GWR livery.
957-New GWR livery.
958-FGW Local Lines livery.
959-FGW Local Lines livery.
960-FGW Local Lines livery.
961-FGW Local Lines livery.

Class 165
101-New GWR livery.
102-New GWR livery.
103-New GWR livery.
104-New GWR livery.
105-New GWR livery.
106-New GWR livery.
107-New GWR livery.
108-New GWR livery.
109-New GWR livery.
110-At Wolverton for repaint and air-cooling fitment.
111-At Wolverton for repaint and air-cooling fitment.
112-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
113-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
114-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
116-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
117-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
118-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
119-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
120-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
121-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
122-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
123-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
124-FGW Dynamic Lines livery. Now re-formed, and fitted with air-cooling.
125-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
126-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
127-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
128-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
129-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
130-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
131-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
132-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
133-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
134-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
135-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
136-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
137-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.


Class 166
201-FGW livery.
202-FGW livery.
203-FGW livery.
204 "Norman Topsom MBE"-New GWR livery.
205-New GWR livery, with new interior. Carries external 1st Class silver stripes at both ends of the unit.
206-New GWR livery.
207-FGW livery.
208-New GWR livery.
209-FGW livery.
210-New GWR livery. No internal first class signage or any other indicators at all at either end of the unit (including no anti-macassars).
211-FGW livery. No anti-macassars at all in its first class section (but has window stickers).
212-New GWR livery.
213-New GWR livery.
214-New GWR livery.
215-FGW livery.
216-New GWR livery. Currently at SPM for staff training and familiarisation.
217-New GWR livery
218-New GWR livery.
219-New GWR livery.
220-New GWR livery.
221 "Reading Train Care Depot"-FGW livery.

Class 387
All class members are expected to be delivered in GWR Green from new.
387130-156 built so far, the Class 387 thread has more details.

Class 800: see the Class 800 thread for more details.
/0s: 5-car units.
001-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
002-Plain, non-TOC specific white (with red detailing at one cab end).
003 "Queen Elizabeth II/Queen Victoria"-New GWR Livery.
004 "Sir Daniel Gooch/Isambard Kingdom Brunel"- New GWR Livery.
005-Plain, non-TOC specific white with bird prints.
006-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
007-Still under construction.
008-Plain, non-TOC specific white. Now loose on the mainline.
009-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
010-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
011-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
012-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
013-Plain, non-TOC specific white. Delivered to Hitachi North Pole/Stoke Gifford.
014-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
015-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
016-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
017-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
018-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
019-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
020-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
021-Under construction.
022-Not yet built.
023-Not yet built.
024-Bodyshells all delivered in plain, non-TOC specific white.
025-Not yet built.
026-Not yet built.
027-Not yet built.
028-Not yet built.
029-Not yet built.
030-Not yet built.
031-Not yet built.
032-Not yet built.
033-Not yet built.
034-Not yet built. Shells at Tees Port (6/6/17).
035-Not yet built.
036-Not yet built.

/3s: 9-car units, originally due to be Class 801/0s.
301-Assumed Plain, non-TOC specific white.
302-At Doncaster. Assumed Plain, non-TOC specific white.
303-At Doncaster. Assumed Plain, non-TOC specific white.
304-Not yet built.
305-Not yet built.
306-Not yet built.
307-Not yet built.
308-Not yet built.
309-Not yet built.
310-Not yet built.
311-Not yet built.
312-Not yet built.
313-Not yet built.
314-Not yet built.
315-Not yet built.
316-Not yet built.
317-Not yet built.
318-Not yet built.
319-Not yet built.
320-Not yet built.
321-Not yet built.

Don't hesitate to add in any further changes; I'm sure there's a few I've missed!

 

[superalbs]

I didn't realise that 158766 was green, I must keep up at the state of play with the 158s

You're not too out of date, it was only out for first passenger service yesterday.

Does anybody know if another will be going in immediately, or if they'll wait until after the busy summer period like I think they did last summer?

 

[PHILIPE]

I didn't realise that 158766 was green, I must keep up at the state of play with the 158s

Post #2303 reports it leaving Barton Hill

 

[PHILIPE]

You're not too out of date, it was only out for first passenger service yesterday.

Does anybody know if another will be going in immediately, or if they'll wait until after the busy summer period like I think they did last summer?

It used to be the practice to suspend Works visits during the High Summer period. Don't know about the remaining 150/2s though as Wolverton is closing later this year and GWR will want to get them through.

 

[PHILIPE]

You're not too out of date, it was only out for first passenger service yesterday.

Does anybody know if another will be going in immediately, or if they'll wait until after the busy summer period like I think they did last summer?

Hope I don't come across as being pedantic but it's first trip in service was actually the night before, 2E22 2242 Bristol TM to Gloucester. Couldn't wait to get it out quick enough as severe shortage of units.

 

[pdeaves]

Class 800:
...
026-Not yet built.
...

/3s: 9-car units, originally due to be Class 801/0s.
...
304-Not yet built.
...

If you're including 'not yet built', for completeness do you need to include class 802 in the list? I believe construction has started.

 

[387star]

shouldn't you differentiate between local lines and plain blue livery?

only one 153 remains in proper local lines livery: 153382

 

[davetheguard]

It was a nice surprise to find a beautifully refurbished green 158 766 on a morning train from Bristol Temple Meads to Great Malvern yesterday. It is seen here at Ashchurch. There was a rather odd mess(age) on the scrolling display inside - the missing three letters never did appear.

The afternoon return journey from Ashchurch also produced something a bit unusual: 3 car 150 001 on a through working to Weymouth.

 

[Parallel]

It was a nice surprise to find a beautifully refurbished green 158 766 on a morning train from Bristol Temple Meads to Great Malvern yesterday. It is seen here at Ashchurch. There was a rather odd mess(age) on the scrolling display inside - the missing three letters never did appear.

The afternoon return journey from Ashchurch also produced something a bit unusual: 3 car 150 001 on a through working to Weymouth.

I was on 158766 yesterday on its return working from Malvern to Weymouth. Quite unusual to get a 2 car 158 on that service though unit shortages have led to some unusual formations in the last week. I also overheard the guard talking to the driver, apparently there was some kind of fault with the doors. There were fitters waiting at Temple Meads but the problem seemed to have rectified itself.

 

[Rhydgaled]

08410 Penzance
08483 OC
08641 LA
08663 St Philips Marsh
08795 Landore
08822 St Philips Marsh
08836 OC
are the last know locations that I know of.


In addition to those listed, 08644 was at Laira then went away supposedly for repair but didn't come back. I'm not sure where it is now.

ps 08645 used to be at Laira too, don't know what happened to that either.

Thanks for the reply, combining that info with the livery list posted by 59CosG95 I get:

Class 08 Shunters:
08410 BR Green livery. Penzance
08483 BR Black livery "NEIL"/"SCOUSEY" Old Oak Common
08641 Modified BR Blue livery, with grey roof & yellow cabside windows. Plymouth Laira
08663 BR Blue livery "St. Silas". St Philips Marsh
08795 BR Black livery Swansea Landore
08822 INTERCITY Swallow livery. "Dave Mills" St Philips Marsh
08836 New GWR livery. Old Oak Common

The grey 08 I have seen at Landore recently is therefore not on the list (don't know the number, sorry), I'm guessing the shunter hiding in the shed at Landore (couldn't tell the livery) must be 08795 then.

Sorry, I can't find a table function to present that nicely.

 

[59CosG95]

Thanks for the reply, combining that info with the livery list posted by 59CosG95 I get:

Class 08 Shunters:
08410 BR Green livery. Penzance
08483 BR Black livery "NEIL"/"SCOUSEY" Old Oak Common
08641 Modified BR Blue livery, with grey roof & yellow cabside windows. Plymouth Laira
08663 BR Blue livery "St. Silas". St Philips Marsh
08795 BR Black livery Swansea Landore
08822 INTERCITY Swallow livery. "Dave Mills" St Philips Marsh
08836 New GWR livery. Old Oak Common

The grey 08 I have seen at Landore recently is therefore not on the list (don't know the number, sorry), I'm guessing the shunter hiding in the shed at Landore (couldn't tell the livery) must be 08795 then.

Sorry, I can't find a table function to present that nicely.

Thanks very much for the update @Rhydgaled, I'll update the main table when I'm not shattered from night shifts!

 

[D1009]

You're not too out of date, it was only out for first passenger service yesterday.

Does anybody know if another will be going in immediately, or if they'll wait until after the busy summer period like I think they did last summer?

There was a green uncoupled 158 car outside Barton Hill today. Has 158766 gone back in?

 

[Deepgreen]

I caught another green 166 (didn't have a chance to note the number as I alighted at Dorking Deepdene) this morning which had yet another mix up with the first class. One end has no silver stripe or large '1' on the door, but has had old BR-style '1' stickers put on each window (!), and has no anti-macassars. What a mess the fleet is in - it's a disgrace. Mark Hopwood keeps dodging the issue when I complain to him.

 

[fgwrich]

Who are you?

This made me smile a little bit last week, thought it might amuse some that 205 is now using the old FGW antimacassors over the GWR leather.

And yes, I did notice the ex BR / NSE 1 stickers have made a re-appearance as well.

 

[Deepgreen]

Who are you?

This made me smile a little bit last week, thought it might amuse some that 205 is now using the old FGW antimacassors over the GWR leather.

And yes, I did notice the ex BR / NSE 1 stickers have made a re-appearance as well.

166205 is another of the units that has the internal and external first class identification mixed up.

GWR have stated to me that a "problem with the antimacassars" has meant that most units have not been carrying them for about a year now! The ones that still do exist are all FGW ones, so why the rest of the units can't carry the same design is anyone's guess. I could have embroidered the new ones myself in that time!

 

[Deepgreen]

I caught the unit I mentioned earlier again last evening - same diagram. It was 166210 and it had the rear section with the silver stripe and antimacassars, but no window stickers. So - both ends labelled as being first class by different means. The BR-style window stickers have been added very recently, so someone has presumably just slapped them on without even checking or caring whether it was the right end! Shambolic.

 

[FGW_DID]

I caught the unit I mentioned earlier again last evening - same diagram. It was 166210 and it had the rear section with the silver stripe and antimacassars, but no window stickers. So - both ends labelled as being first class by different means. The BR-style window stickers have been added very recently, so someone has presumably just slapped them on without even checking or caring whether it was the right end! Shambolic.

I'm in work tomorrow, I'll have to check but I'm 99% sure 166210 (& 1 other) was stopped over the weekend for 'graphics' work.

All the work is carried out by an external contractor. I'll flag up your concerns.

 

[Deepgreen]

I'm in work tomorrow, I'll have to check but I'm 99% sure 166210 (& 1 other) was stopped over the weekend for 'graphics' work.

All the work is carried out by an external contractor. I'll flag up your concerns.

Thanks!

 

[DenmarkRail]

Does it really annoy anyone else, that the class 800s have the white strip around the cab doors and the locking lights, where the vinyl wrap hasn't been done?

Makes the trains looks temporary and horrible

 

[pdeaves]

Does it really annoy anyone else, that the class 800s have the white strip around the cab doors and the locking lights, where the vinyl wrap hasn't been done?

Makes the trains looks temporary and horrible

Maybe others but not me. I rather like the 'lining'.