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So, Tuesday 14th was Valentine's day, and also my Birthday, a couple of days on i can say being 33 isn't that bad so far so anyone who has yet to reach that need not worry.

This week normally falls within a week of shows/rehearsals so i normally have to work, this year it falls on the Tuesday which is a day off.
I decided that a South Pennines Day Ranger would be the order of the day.

It's a little unexciting but it kept me occupied for the day.

The day didn't start off quite as planned, I had a delivery or presents from my considerably better half who is currently in Australia (where she is from) so felt I ought to open those. I subsequently didn't make the 0913 from Worksop (WRK) and traffic issues getting to the station car park which left me little time to "Platt Fog" which is the term i use for "Trying to buy a ticket at Worksop station" Sadly, the South Pennines Day Ranger "doesn't exist", "i must have made a mistake" and "i can have a Manchester ticket if i want" The 1013 arrived a little early so i had to leave my ticket purchasing attempt and board the train. Thanks to 'RingGo' i could pay for my parking after i got on the train. I ran for the train and the guard kindly waited. The 1013 from WRK to Sheffield (SHF) was full and standing, the train continued to Adwick via Meadowhall, I assume most people were for Meadowhall.
The guard made his way through the train slowly and got to me where i purchased a South Pennines Day Ranger and my extra ticket to get me to the boundary (SHF). Tickets supplied on A3 7GSM paper are not my favourite and i could see this was going to be a disappointment.
At SHF the ones in the know jumped off the train and onto the 1050 Leeds (LDS) semi fast service to get to Meadowhall a few minutes ahead of the train which has a 5 minute dwell time at SHF.
There was a high police presence on platform 2 at SHF and an out of service 222 sat there, not sure what had gone on but there were a couple of platform alterations from stuff that would normally (and was booked) from P2.
Time for a ham and cheese Panini and a bottle of water for a breathtaking £6 before catching the 1111 TPE Service to Manchester Piccadilly (MAN).
Again, almost full and standing but managed to get a fold sown seat outside the accessible loo.
Another chap who boarded at Sheffield had some form of ticket that apparently wasn't valid as the train didn't stop there so he couldn't get an excess. I sadly didn't catch the full story but something didn't seem quite right, he had to buy a single to MAN. TPE Seem to be very hot on Railcards and seat reservations which is good. My 8' squared paper Day Ranger already looked distressed and i had only had to get it out of my ticket wallet and unfold it the once.
At MAN the RPIs were out in force, it took 2 of them to work out that my poster sized ticket was valid and even then i think they accepted it and let me through not really knowing.
Due to the late start i was unable to do one small run that i had originally planned, so i took the 1218 Northern Electric service to Hadfield. The track beyond Hyde Junction i had not covered. I alighted at Hadfield and had a short walk around and bought a new puzzle book in Tesco Express to keep me occupied when i'm waiting for other people in rehearsals. I boarded the 1329 Service back to MAN. There was an announcement stating that the ticket machine had run out of tickets so the guard would not be able to sell tickets and advising people to purchase at their first opportunity. The guard didn't bother to check tickets that people had already purchased, for example at the manned stations of Hadfield and Glossop or from machines at other stations, i wonder if he couldn't be bothered.
My times were slightly out of sync due to my late start and not having time to do a short run so i had a little time to kill back at MAN before i needed to head across to Victoria (MCV). The QR Readers that must have cost as much as a small town at MAN don't actually read the new tickets yet and likely never will if we are honest. The VTWC gate operator had some choice words about the new tickets and i agreed with him. I caught 390141 (There is a number for you guys that like that sort of thing, i had to get one in) the 1415 service for Euston as far as Stockport and then onto the 1429 Northern service back to MAN.
It was tram time, and i managed (easily) to catch the 1454 Tram over to MCV.
At Victoria i bought another bottle of water and proceeded to look for information on the trains to confirm what RTT was telling me. There was a severe display board issue at MCV on that occasion, all of the main boards were showing a fault and recommending asking station staff who seemed to know very little. All of the platform boards were also showing faults and i had to tell a number of people that the Platform 1 train was very likely to be the 1526 to Leeds (Via Brighouse etc) which i duly boarded. 158755 was to be my ride for this part, I do spoil you with numbers.

The train was incredibly dirty with litter and just general dirt and sticky coffee residue on tables, it had stood at MCV since before i arrived and had clearly not been cleaned, of course Northern will happily tell me that they are cleaned at each Terminus. The front carriage was also very cold, i managed it until around Todmorden and then decided to move to another carriage which was much warmer, and cleaner. Maybe the cleaners didn't want to clean a cold carriage. At Dewsbury i noticed 158756 in the new livery going the other way which looked quite pleasant.

I had planned to take a service back to MCV via Bradford but as i arrived at Leeds i saw that the 1715 VTEC Service was an 43 instead of the booked 91 so i thought i'd deviate from my plan and take that to Wakefield. The train was full and standing but i managed an unreserved seat at the back end of coach B so was close to 43274 (I only know it was this number as it was the Spirit of Sunderland) and i got to charge my phone a little on the way.
It was over the bridge and onto the 1733 back to Leeds which arrived promptly pulled by 91115 (I should charge for this).

I made a dash over from 6 to 16 at Leeds for the 1753 TPE Service heading to Manchester Airport, as far as Huddersfield (HUD). Full and Standing as expected though most did alight at HUD with me. I popped to the Head of Steam for Steak and Chips which was very nice indeed before making a decision on what to do next. I was a little tired and had considered a wait for the next SHF train to then take me onwards home but a colleague of mine had been in Liverpool and was catching the 1852 back as far as Alfreton (ALF) so i decided to take the 1856 TPE service to MAN which was busy but i managed to get a seat. I had a bit of a wander at MAN before catching the slightly delayed 1941 EMT service to Nottingham (NOT) as fas as SHF. Very quiet train at the front being a brace of 158s.
A quick hop over to platform 4A at SHF to catch the 2045 service to WRK to get to my car. I inadvertently showed the guard on that train my South Pennines Day Ranger and it was accepted, which was duly noted. We were delayed on arrival at WRK by the EMT Robin Hood Line service that was late running which has to enter the station, allow passengers to alight, tell everyone that has just got on thinking it is going straight back to Nottingham to get off again so it can run ECS up to Manton Colliery Sidings to reappear as if by magic on platform 1. This put this service 10L but luckily i had my car at WRK.

All in all a stress free (except the now expected Worksop Ticket Office Woes) pleasant day. none of my trains were delayed more than a couple of minutes, the Manchester to Sheffield EMT service left Manchester 5L minutes later but arrived at Sheffield only 1L. I'm disappointed with the paper tickets but i guess it is how it is going to be. I'm also once again disappointed with the staff at Worksop for not being able to issue a ticket. It is what i would consider one of the key criteria of being fit for the job, that and unlocking the waiting room when it is -4 outside which they refused to do last week as it was too cold to go out in it. Meanwhile the people on the platform (myself included) agreed it was too cold but could do very little about it. I'm fairly convinced that the chair that they sit on could do a better job at issuing tickets than they can.
 
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Sounds like a good day out.

Dire show from Worksop ticket office though, next time I'd recommend going with a little more time to spare and persisting, showing them a screenshot of the website or the leaflet advertising the ticket if you need to.

Indeed no train guard seems to know how far the South Pennines Day Ranger is valid. I've had the guard on a Stoke train tell me he didn't care if I went through to there, and the guard on a Hadfield ask me if it was valid to Derby or Nottingham!

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I would normally have been with plenty of time but traffic conditions (out of the ordinary at that time of day). I have tried giving them full official titles, i have given them ticket numbers taken from BRfares.com and have still had no luck. They are generally polite but sadly that doesn't get the ticket issued. I'm not talking about overly complicated things either. Though a Freedom of the North West 4 in 8 Rover X2 with a Two Together Railcard isn't exactly complicated. But an any permitted Whitwell (WWL) to London Terminals is beyond them as they tell me i have to go via Nottingham and it is (was) £68. It is ongoing and if i know in advance i try and book online and collect there or Whitwell has a new ticket machine now which i have yet to use.
 

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Apart from the ticket problems, which really is dire, it sounds like a great day. Shame about Northern deciding to only partially clean their units - it's something I've noticed in the past too.
 

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Glad to hear you had a good day Rob. I celebrated by attending uni lectures as usual, although I did have a 50/50 pizza at Revolution sheffield with friends, and then desert at a new ice cream parlour on West Street :D

Valentines Day? Pssh!
 

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That was an enjoyable read, looked like a good day out. The complicated ticketing situation these days puts me off going out more to be honest.
 

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First train back.
Worksop to Nottingham 19/4/17

A short set of journeys today but a key journey as it's the first one I have made since my heart issues at the start of the month. Trust me when I say that siting on a few trains has pretty much finished me off for the day but I'm certainly getting better.

Ticket : Worksop to Nottigham off peak day return Via Lincoln.
This is a more expensive ticket with added validity.

I parked up in the car park and purchased my ticket from the machine. There is absolutely no way on this earth that ticket office staff at Worksop would be able to sell me this ticket so I didn't even attempt it.
I caught the 1015 Service to Lincoln where I got off and had a steady walk to the bank to pay a cheque in, quite handy as I've had it since getting back from Edinburgh at the end of last month but haven't been able to pay it in. This gave me an opportunity to have an early lunch as I hadn't felt like breakfast. So one trip to the bank and 1 bag of chips later I went back to the station to catch the 1140 Leicester service to Nottingham. A newly refurbished 158 was running this service with its fancy blue and white electronic display and USB sockets under the seats. At Nottingham I had a short wander, saw the 1232 London HST leave, the one with the hired in vtec coach J.
I considered a run to Ilkeston on a Liverpool service but I didn't fancy 45 minutes at Ilkeston so I will save that for another day.
I boarded the 1249 service to Newark Castle (a 156) with a polite step onto the platform at Fiskerton. Onward to Newark where I walked to Waitrose to get more food as i didn't finish my chips and was hungry again now.
Back over the LC just before a DB 60 went past and a short wait for the 1352 back to Lincoln. The connection at Lincoln for the Worksop bound service (To Adwick) was only 2 minutes so I was concerned that I wouldn't make it over the bridge in time given my current health. Luckily we arrived a good 5E so I had plenty of time to board a very poorly 144 on the 1425 service. It was as if the front gearbox was stuck in the higher gear, the engine didn't seem to do anything from a standstill and only when we got to a certain speed there was much vibrating and something happening from the front. I decided to get off at Retford and have an hour sat on platform 1 with a bag of crisps. I managed to see the hired in 90 on a vtec service running northbound for the second time in a week (the first time being waiting at a crossing just north of Carlton Loop last week on my first day out of the house). I thought they were booked to do the Newark northgate seevices with the 90 so as not to lose too much time but both times it has been north of there (and late). Back to platform 4 for the 1602 service back 1 stop to Worksop and back to the car.
A short day not travelling far but a new station stepped onto and a ride on a refurbished EMT 158.

Am I supposed to do a cost thing now including my dinner?
Ticket £12.60
Car park £2.20 (20p transaction charge for The RingGo app)
Bag of chips in Lincoln £1.60
Pasta thing from Waitrose £2
Bag of crisps from Retford £1.25...... they were actually sweet potato crisps which is why they were frightfully expensive.

Sums £19.65

Certainly ready for bed after it, which shows it's taking a while to get back to normal but I'm certainly improving.
 
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Glad to hear things are on the mend slowly but surely :)

Some of us do the cost thing but not as much as we used to. I just summarise everything into monthly totals in my monthly Rolling Review instead.
 

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Sorry to hear that your health isn't great at the moment, but it sounds like a good trip there.
 

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Yesterday I purchased a South Yorkshire Connect + ticket from the train At Woodhouse and spent the day backwards and forwards between Sheffield and Doncaster on various trains. I didn't bother with any tram travel this time. I also purchased a firstvoff peak return to derby and had a trip there and back and utilised the lounges at both stations before and after the trip, for £17.30 against £11.50 I don't think it's too bad considering drinks and snacks and lounge use and wifi at both ends and on board. I saw 170B service from London Victoria at Chesterfield that had arrived into p3 a little early. Sandwiched between a 67 and a 66. There isn't much more to tell other than the 1721 XC service to Glasgow that should have been an HST wasn't, and it was so busy that numerous people got left behind. It's disappointing that more isn't done to help these people, staff on the platforms basically told people with advances they'd need new tickets, many were only going to Leeds and no doubt many that squeezed on would have also been going to Leeds. The next couple of Leeds trains from there were fairly full but there were still seats, some only a few minutes behind.
 

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When the 12:25x PLY isn't an HST the jobs a baddun from the off. Staff at stations should be persicuted for their advice agreed but XC really should be doing something for them, even if its a few spare double deckers from Arriva depots being thrown out on rail replacement between the midlands and Leeds. I rode this train through from the Midlands to Edinburgh a couple of months back and even as an HST its standing x BHM right through to LDS.
 

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I think the problem was communication. A colleague of mine was on board, he had a seat reservation which of course didn't exist on a 221. He had to stand from New Street to I think Derby and then managed to get a seat. I knew it was not a HST because he had told me (not in as many words but told me there were 5 coaches not 7 and said it was just a normal cross country train). Now if I can tell when he leaves Birmingham, there is absolutely no reason that staff at the main stations along the route shouldn't be told. Platform staff had no idea, and had a little panic when it came into view. There will be lots of Birmingham to Derby traffic, that could have gone on the Edinburgh train that I think is half an hour behind, lots of Derby to Sheffield traffic, there's 2 EMT services per hour on top of the 2 XC ones. And Sheffield to Leeds of which there are a few all be it smaller trains during that hour. Some info for passengers travelling those shorter distances would have been useful and could have been done with plenty of time. Birmingham to Leeds, they could have persuaded a few to go via Manchester I guess although it adds a good 40 minutes and a change. I don't think the buying new tickets thing was persued in the end I think folks just got on the next train.

Not sure what happened to the HST, that very train (diagram) was over an hour late a week previous due to "a train fault"
 

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Today I am on 1R94 between Nottingham and Sheffield although I believe we are terminating at Chesterfield. I actually missed this train the first time it left Nottingham but it came back 10 minutes later, detached, re attached and was told it was now ok. It's really not ok, it's like someone's replaced the 4 engines with 1 engine from a 1987 Austin Maestro with the handbrake on. I'm convinced the rear unit 158865 isn't taking power but who am I to say.
 

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It appears that as soon as we reach about 30mph there is a brake application.
 

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Glad to see you're back on the rails, and that ride on a 158 sounds very unwell indeed. Never had that issue before myself!
 

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Doing bits and bobs. I will update this thread with the last few days bits and bobs soon.
Apparently (according to twitter) they had to disable features of the train to get it to run properly which wouldn't be ok in passenger service. I wonder what they were.
 

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From your observations I would suggest maybe the power handle above notch 4/5?
Other than that lighting, air con and any other hotel services e.g toilet related gagitry
 

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Thursday 8th June, all very brief as i didn't actually do much.

Job number 1 : Vote in the General Election.
Job number 2 Drive to Worksop Station and buy my ticket and pay to park my car.
Job number 3, Enjoy some train travel.

I took an afternoon service to Retford and caught the 1449 VTEC service to York. After a little wander around the station and the immediate area outside i boarded a train towards Hull, as far as Selby, and proceeded to go over the foot bridge an await the next service back to York. After another wander and wonder i boarded the 1802 Service towards King's cross. I could have gone to Retford, but decided to stop off at Doncaster for a while (Knowing that there are not many services that call at Retford so it is not a decision to take lightly). I somehow managed to kill time in Doncaster including an orange juice in the new pub on platform 3, it seems very pleasant in there and whilst I don't know how much a pint of beer costs, the orange juice was very reasonably priced. I caught the 2003 Hull Trains Service back to Retford where i positioned myself to make a +3 connection down to the low level platform without overdoing it and making myself ill, i walked briskly and caught it fairly easily, it left around 1L so that saved me 40 minutes or so at Retford.

I didn't seem to do much other than wander round but it feels good to be out and about a little more.
 
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Friday 9th June

Ticket : South Pennines Day Ranger £23 / Worksop Sheffield Day Return £5.50
Parking : Worksop £2

1013 Service to Adwick as far as Sheffield.
I then planned to get the Manchester airport service but the platform was very very full and i didn't want to stand all the way so i decided to get the 1118 Leeds service from Platform 1A. Whilst it was a bit slower than the Cross Country service to Glasgow there was more chance of a seat and less chance of a horrible smell. Unfortunately platform 1B held the 1114 stopping service to Leeds (via Rotherham where the 1118 gets its chance to overtake). The 1114 however consisted of a 142 and they then went to put a 144 on the back. We sat in the platform for about 20 minutes whilst they tried to get the hybrid in front to move as it should. They eventually detached the 144 and sent a very full 142 on its way before we could finally leave some 23L.
We arrived into Leeds 24L and after a little wander to see what was about i decided to do a couple of hops back and forth to Westgate on whatever came in first. This was a VTEC HST, a northern 321, another northern 321 and a VTEC Class 91. I then took another VTEC Class 43 back to Westgate and got the Huddersfield service across to Kirkgate where i awaited a Sheffield service. A quick run to Barnsley and back fell over rapidly when we were delayed on the way in meaning i missed the connection to the service going the other way. Always using a disaster as an opportunity i decided to pop to Greggs just outside the station for a late lunch. I caught the next service back to Leeds via Kirkgate, admiring the rows of class 70s and 66s and a rougue 90 just outside Leeds. I hopped over the bridge at Leeds to get the 1636 TPE service to Manchester Piccadilly. As with every TPE service i have ever been on ever since the start of ever it was full and standing. Surprising actually as with a seating capacity of 17 you'd think the class 185 would be plenty big enough. Quite a few got off at Dewsbury and i finally got a seat (all be it a flip down one just outside first class) at Huddersfield. At Manchester i had a stereotypical wander and then decided i would do a couple of class 390 runs to Stockport and back. My Ticket didn't work the barriers, because the barriers are a con, no ticket actually works those barriers, i have never seen anyone's ticket actually work those barriers, certainly none of mine ever have. The staff are generally helpful and pleasant and let you through without even looking, i mean i could have had a Liskeard to Bat and Ball Child Single dated 14th November 2003 and they'd have let me through. This seems somewhat opposite to the Northern staff in the doorway further down who wouldn't even let you through if you were dressed as a firefighter pulling a hose behind you and STILL stopped to show a valid ticket on the way. I was starting to look towards plans to return home in order to get the second to last train back from Sheffield (its usually very quiet unlike the last one) and noticed that the EMT Liverpool to Norwich service (or maybe it was just to Nottingham) was running very late as there had been some signal issues. I managed to get on and get a seat on the TPE service at 1919 to which i had the pleasure of overhearding a very loud conversation throughout the entire journey. There will be a small intermission whilst i babble on about the chap on the train now, to continue reading about the journey rather than the man on the train find the obvious line break.

A chap in his early 30s had been travelling on his own for a month in Spain as he had no friends or family. He had to come back due to a family emergency, his wife was in hospital (he has no family). He had gone out there by boat as he was terrified of flying, but on the way back he had to fly to get home quickly. It transpires that he missed his initial flight because they held him back to search him for drugs multiple times and he has never done drugs in his life. So he had to pay for a hotel overnight and a new fight. When he got to the airport the next day he spoke to someone who apologised,, rebooked him on another flight and refunded him for both flights. So armed with a bottle of cheap whiskey which was almost empty might i add he got on the flight and whilst very nervous he is glad he has finally done it and would consider flying again. What also helped were the Diazepam that a doctor prescribed to him, now, I'm not sure whether it was a UK doctor, because he didnt know he was flying when he went out there, but he happily gave away the rest of his tablets to a fellow passenger he had got talking to. He also had some Propanolol, this is a beta blocker used to control heart rhythm issues. I am on a similar drug, but i actually have a heart condition. Again, he gave them away. Now, this man has no friends or family, has never done drugs but is now giving prescription drugs away to other passengers whilst he gets home to see his closest family member who he married whilst not having any family after being away travelling on his own for a month in Spain, but was afraid of flying and missed a flight because they were doing drug tests and then he got a free flight. Now, I'm not sure about you guys, but something wasn't adding up here. I do hope his wife recovers quickly though and forgives him for being a day later than he should have been and also forgives him for losing his wedding ring........

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After getting off the train, a little wander for a drink was required, followed by the 2044 Service to Worksop to get in my car to go home.

Another day of not doing much but good to be out.
 

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I enjoyed and was facinated by that conversation. Something strange indeed! Nice little day out there, the South Penines is a cracking little ticket and one I must partake of sometime.
 

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Interesting conversation indeed!

There does seem to be a lot of problems connecting 14X units at Sheffield, I've seen it happen in a rather comical scene before. Although I doubt it is funny if you're on the said units.
 

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Wow that was a thoroughly odd conversation you overheard! The giving away of prescription tablets is a bit strange, it must be said.

Otherwise it sounds like a decent day out :)
 
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