Great Western Livery

[83G/84D]

Going for Tyre Turning.

Thanks, now on the Marsh I believe.

 

[jimm]

Like I said this seems to be discussed every few weeks. It's long been established Northern have agreed to take on all the 150s belonging to Angel Trains - the ones which GWR had planned to release will be taken on once GWR have finished with them, with the last few once the current lease expires (in 2019.)

You wanted to know which page in the Northern franchise agreement but there's 3 things you need to look at to confirm the above is the current plan:
1. The future fleet list in the Northern franchise agreement
2. The current fleet list in the GWR franchise agreement
3. A source saying how many 150s Angel own

It's not practical to reference everything in every forum post.

I told you the easiest way of finding fleet lists in the franchise agreement if you know which class of trains the operator has or is taking on. (Page numbers can cause confusion due to the printed page numbers often being different to the pdf page numbers.)



While I agree that something in a franchise agreement could change if both the operator and DfT sign off the change, don't forget you were using a RAIL article (RAIL articles not always being the most factually accurate) from a couple of years ago to try and argue that another poster was wrong.

You also brought up the old wives tale of a Green train means it's guaranteed to stay with GWR even after the current franchise. Where's the reference for that? Wasn't there a story about First Group being angry with a rail magazine for wrongly claiming the green GWR branding was DfT's idea when it was actually First's idea?

I'm pretty sure there's an agreement that the current GWR franchise can retain units for an additional 26 weeks (even if a lease has been agreed with another operator) if the replacement trains/wiring is delayed.



You're missing the point - they happened because DfT didn't want to interfere with Porterbrook's decision to lease the 170s to Chiltern so helped TPE by looking for whatever option they could find for TPE to not lose capacity but still forfeit the 170s.



That doesn't have any relevance to the point I was making. They were off-lease units and the DfT sign off would have been because it involved changing the franchise agreement, from the previously agreed deal. Presumably the additional leasing costs is what needed the DfT sign off.



I agree that removing units prematurely from a franchise isn't a good idea but if it's going to happen is there any need to make things even more complicated? Northern crews will be learning 170s, 195s and 331s, as well as Northern having to sort out route clearance for those traction types.



Agreed the only point relevant to the GWR livery is unreferenced and seems to be an old wives tale!

The reality is that whatever the Northern franchise document may say proves nothing about when any stock may actually move from GWR or any another franchisee, or depart from Northern - there are plenty of recent examples to demonstrate this.

The idea that the DfT is some kind of laissez-faire neutral arbiter when it comes to rolling stock is laughable - or are all the industry observers who use the expression micro-management to describe DfT's level of involvement/interference in the railways making it up?

 

[Apedlar12]

Thanks, now on the Marsh I believe.

so i take it, it will now be based in bristol like 150002 is and will be working like all the other 150s?

 

[fgwrich]

so i take it, it will now be based in bristol like 150002 is and will be working like all the other 150s?

Going for Tyre Turning.

See response above. 001s move to the Marsh probably wont be until at least December or when the Electrics start operating to Didcot.

 

[PHILIPE]

GWR 153377 went to Long Marston today.

 

[Apedlar12]

Does anyone know why the 143s are going to St Phillips Marsh and coming back with white bogies around the wheels?

 

[superalbs]

Does anyone know why the 143s are going to St Phillips Marsh and coming back with white bogies around the wheels?

143s? Bogies? Eh?

 

[spark001uk]

Does anyone know why the 143s are going to St Phillips Marsh and coming back with white bogies around the wheels?

If you've seen a 143 with bogies I would seriously consider refraining from what you're drinking!

 

[PHILIPE]

150243 on way to Wolverton by road. 1 Car today and the other one waiting it's transport.

 

[spark001uk]

150243 on way to Wolverton by road. 1 Car today and the other one waiting it's transport.

This is becoming increasingly popular, is GWR finding it cheaper / easier by road nowadays then? The closest refurb program near me is the SWT 158/159s, and they all go under their own power up to Brush.

 

[Parallel]

150243 on way to Wolverton by road. 1 Car today and the other one waiting it's transport.

150243 is the only GWR unit that has the tweaked auto safety announcement at the start with a second security announcement tagged onto the end.

Just 150221 (which I haven't seen for ages!) 150249, 150261 and 150265 of the ex-Wessex units left to do, and 150216 and the left over carriages from 150209 and 150212.

 

[59CosG95]

This is becoming increasingly popular, is GWR finding it cheaper / easier by road nowadays then? The closest refurb program near me is the SWT 158/159s, and they all go under their own power up to Brush.

I think the difference with the 150s going to Wolverton by road is that it'd be a bit of a nightmare for them to get from Bristol to Wolverton under their own power; reaching London, accessing the WCML etc. Paths are already in for the 165s/166s to leave by rail.
In the case of the SWT 158/159 fleet, it's a simpler case of leaving Salisbury, bypassing Bristol & B'ham to reach L'boro that way.

 

[Apedlar12]

150243 is the only GWR unit that has the tweaked auto safety announcement at the start with a second security announcement tagged onto the end.

Just 150221 (which I haven't seen for ages!) 150249, 150261 and 150265 of the ex-Wessex units left to do, and 150216 and the left over carriages from 150209 and 150212.

and 150219 and 150238

 

[59CosG95]

LOCOS
Class 08 Shunters:
410-BR Green livery.
483 "NEIL"/"SCOUSEY"-BR Black livery.
641-Modified BR Blue livery, with grey roof & yellow cabside windows.
663 "St. Silas"-BR Blue livery.
795-BR Black livery.
822 "Dave Mills"-INTERCITY Swallow livery.
836-New GWR livery.

Class 43 powercars:
002 "Sir Kenneth Grange"-Original IC125 Blue/yellow livery. Also has black GWR logos on the windows of the sliding doors toward the rear of the car.
003 "ISAMBARD KINGDOM BRUNEL"-FGW livery.
004-FGW livery.
005-New GWR livery.
009-FGW livery.
010-FGW livery.
012 "Exeter Panel Signal Box 21st Anniversary 2009"-FGW livery.
015-FGW livery.
016-New GWR livery. Modified for HSTGTi operations, number beneath cab, GWR logo transferred rather than cast.
017 "Hannahs discoverhannahs.org"-FGW livery.
018-FGW livery.
020 "MTU Power. Passion. Partnership."-FGW livery.
021 "David Austin-Cartoonist"-FGW livery.
022 "The Duke of Edinburgh's Award Diamond Anniversary 1956-2016"-FGW Livery
023 "SQN LDR Harold Starr One of the Few"-FGW livery.
024 "Great Western Society 1961-2011 Didcot Railway Centre"-FGW livery.
025 "The Institute of Railway Operators 2000-2010 TEN YEARS OF PROMOTING OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE"-FGW livery.
026 "Michael Eavis"-FGW livery.
027-"90 Glorious Years" livery to commemmorate HM The Queen's 90th Birthday.
028-FGW livery.
029-FGW livery.
030 "Christian Lewis Trust"-FGW livery.
031-FGW livery.
032-FGW livery.
033 "Driver Brian Cooper 15th June 1947-5th October 1999"-FGW livery.
034 "TravelWatch South West"-FGW livery.
035-FGW livery.
036-FGW livery.
037 "PENYDARREN"-FGW livery.
040 "Bristol St. Philip's Marsh"-FGW livery.
041 "Meningitis Trust Support For Life"-New GWR livery.
042-FGW livery.
053 "University of Worcester"-FGW livery.
056 "The Royal British Legion"-FGW livery.
063-FGW livery.
069-FGW livery.
070 "The Corps of Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers"-FGW livery.
071-FGW livery.
078-FGW livery.
079-FGW livery.
086-FGW livery.
087 "11 Explosive Ordnance Disposal Regiment Royal Logistics Corps"-FGW livery.
088-FGW livery.
091-FGW livery.
092-FGW livery.
093-New GWR livery. Modified for HSTGTi operations (I think), number beneath cab, GWR logo transferred rather than cast.
094-FGW livery.
097 "Environment Agency"-FGW livery.
098-FGW livery.
122-FGW livery.
124-FGW livery.
125-FGW livery.
126-Advertising livery: BRISTOL 2015 European Green Capital.
127 "Sir Peter Parker 1924-2002 Cotswold Line 150"-FGW livery.
128-FGW livery.
129-FGW livery.
130-FGW livery.
131-FGW livery.
132 "We Save the Children-will you?"-FGW livery.
133-FGW livery.
134-FGW livery.
135-FGW livery.
136-FGW livery.
137 "Newton Abbott 150"-FGW livery.
138-FGW livery.
139 "Driver Stan Martin 25 June 1950-6 November 2004"-FGW livery.
140 "Depo Diesel Glandŵr 1963 Dathlu 50 Mlynedd 2013/Landore Diesel Depot 1963 Celebrating 50 Years 2013"-FGW livery.
141 "Cardiff Panel Signal Box 1966-2016/Blwch Signalau Panel Caerdydd 1966-2016"-FGW livery.
142 "Reading Panel Signal Box 1965-2010"-FGW livery.
143 "Stroud 700"-FGW livery.
144-Advertising livery: BUILDING A GREATER WEST (countryside images)
145-FGW livery.
146-FGW livery. "BUILDING A GREATER WEST" vinyls now removed.
147 "Royal Marines Celebrating 350 Years"-FGW livery.
148-FGW livery.
149 "University of Plymouth"-FGW livery.
150-FGW livery.
151-FGW livery.
152-FGW livery.
153-FGW livery.
154-FGW livery.
155 "The Red Arrows 50 Seasons of Excellence"-FGW livery.
156 "Dartington International Summer School"-FGW livery.
158-FGW livery.
159-FGW livery.
160 "Sir Moir Lockhead OBE"-FGW livery.
161-FGW livery.
162-FGW livery.
163-Advertising livery: Visit Plymouth
164-FGW livery.
165 "Prince Michael of Kent"-FGW livery.
168-FGW livery.
169 "THE NATIONAL TRUST"-FGW livery.
170-FGW livery.
171-FGW livery.
172 "Harry Patch The Last survivor of the trenches"-Black & Orange commemorative livery. FGW logo still present.
174-FGW livery.
175 "GWR-175th Anniversary"-FGW livery.
176-FGW livery.
177-FGW livery.
179 "Pride of Laira"-FGW livery.
180-FGW livery.
181-FGW livery.
182-FGW livery.
183-FGW livery.
185 "Great Western"-INTERCITY Swallow livery, complete with cast swallow. Also has white GWR logos on the windows of the sliding doors toward the rear of the car.
186-FGW livery.
187-New GWR livery. Carrying "Y Cymro-The Welshman" branding.
188-New GWR livery. Carrying "Y Cymro-The Welshman" branding.
189 "RAILWAY HERITAGE TRUST"-FGW livery.
190-FGW livery.
191-FGW livery.
192-FGW livery.
193-FGW livery.
194-New GWR livery. Modified for HSTGTi operations (I think), number beneath cab, GWR logo transferred rather than cast.
195-FGW livery.
196-FGW livery.
197-FGW livery.
198 "Oxfordshire 2007"-New GWR livery. Modified for HSTGTi operations (I think), number beneath cab, GWR logo transferred rather than cast.

Class 57 sleeper/crank-ex locos:
57602 "Restormel Castle"-GWR (new) livery.
57603 "Tintagel Castle"-GWR (new) livery.
57604 "PENDENNIS CASTLE"-GWR (traditional) livery.
57605 "Totnes Castle"-GWR (new) livery.

(Many thanks to @co-tr-paul for Night Riviera-related updates; check his thread out here)

COACHES
HST trailer sets:
LA01-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA02-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA03-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA04-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA05-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA06-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA07-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA08-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA09-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA10-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA11-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA12-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA13-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA14-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA15-New GWR livery.
LA16-New GWR livery.
OC30-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC31-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC32-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC33-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC34-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC35-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC36-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC37-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC38-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC40-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC41-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC42-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC43-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC44-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC45-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC46-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC47-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC48-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC49-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC50-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC51-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC52-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC53-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC54-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC55-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC56-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC57-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA60-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA61-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA62-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA63-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA64-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA71-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA72-Currently undergoing overhaul. Due to be returning from Derby in GWR Green.
LA73-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA74-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA75-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA spares: 40 (119, 231, 718, 811), 41 (004, 103, 116, 137, 176), 42 (049, 083, 095, 101, 102, 196, 294, 356, 381), 44 (002, 059, 083)
OO spare: 44024
PM spare: 44100

Sleeper coaches:
All GW 105xx and 106xx SLEP coaches in GWR silver & green.
All BFO coaches (17173-5) in GWR silver & green.
TSOs:
All TSOs in GWR silver & green, with the exception of:
10217 (ex-Virgin, undergoing refurb at Wolverton as a replacement for 10232),
&
10232 (not getting refurbished as severe corrosion means going off-lease, and probably scrap).

DMUs
Class 150/1s are not included here, as they are expected to leave the franchise.
Class 143:
603-FGW Local Lines livery.
611-FGW Local Lines livery.
612-FGW Local Lines livery.
617-FGW Local Lines livery.
618-FGW Local Lines livery.
619-FGW Local Lines livery.
620-FGW Local Lines livery.
621-FGW Local Lines livery.

Class 150/0:
Both 150001 and 150002 are in GWR Green.

Class 150/2:
202-New GWR livery.
216-FGW livery.
219-FGW livery. New Dot-Matrix display on front. Back in service after its prang with 43160 at PLY.
221-FGW Local Lines livery.
232-New GWR livery.
233-New GWR livery.
234-New GWR livery.
238-FGW livery. New Dot-Matrix display on front.
239-New GWR livery.
243-At Wolverton for repaint.
244-New GWR livery.
246-New GWR livery.
247-New GWR livery. Also has finalised interior.
248-New GWR livery.
249-FGW Local Lines livery.
261 "The Tarka Line - The First 25 Years 1989-2014"-FGW livery.
263-New GWR livery.
265-FGW Local Lines livery.
266-New GWR livery.

Class 153
305-Two-tone Grey livery.
318-New GWR livery.
325-"Citizensrail.org" advertising livery.
329-FGW Local Lines livery.
333-"Visit South Devon" advertising livery.
361-FGW Local Lines livery.
368-New GWR livery.
369-FGW Local Lines livery.
370-New GWR livery.
372-New GWR livery.
373-New GWR livery.
377-New GWR livery.
380-At Long Marston for re-vinyling.
382-FGW Local Lines livery.


Class 158
763-FGW Local Lines livery.
766-FGW Local Lines livery.
798-Advertising livery: Springboard Opportunity Group
950-New GWR livery.
951-New GWR livery.
952-FGW Local Lines livery.
953-FGW Local Lines livery.
954-FGW Local Lines livery.
955-FGW Local Lines livery.
956-New GWR livery.
957-New GWR livery.
958-FGW Local Lines livery.
959-FGW Local Lines livery.
960-FGW Local Lines livery.
961-FGW Local Lines livery.

Class 165
101-New GWR livery.
102-New GWR livery.
103-New GWR livery.
104-New GWR livery.
105-New GWR livery.
106-New GWR livery.
107-New GWR livery.
108-New GWR livery.
109-New GWR livery.
110-At Wolverton for repaint and air-cooling fitment.
111-At Wolverton for repaint and air-cooling fitment.
112-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
113-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
114-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
116-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
117-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
118-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
119-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
120-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
121-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
122-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
123-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
124-FGW Dynamic Lines livery. At RVEL Derby after its farce at Paddington; one car at SPM for staff training/familiarisation. The unit will be paired up at SPM.
125-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
126-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
127-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
128-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
129-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
130-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
131-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
132-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
133-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
134-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
135-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
136-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
137-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.


Class 166
201-FGW livery.
202-FGW livery.
203-FGW livery.
204 "Norman Topsom MBE"-New GWR livery.
205-New GWR livery, with new interior. Carries external 1st Class silver stripes at both ends of the unit.
206-New GWR livery.
207-FGW livery.
208-New GWR livery.
209-FGW livery.
210-New GWR livery. No internal first class signage or any other indicators at all at either end of the unit (including no anti-macassars).
211-FGW livery. No anti-macassars at all in its first class section (but has window stickers).
212-New GWR livery.
213-New GWR livery.
214-New GWR livery.
215-FGW livery. Also has no internal 1st class ID save for two creased and peeling stickers on the transverse glass partitions that both look as if they have been stuck on by children. No window stickers and no anti-macassars. The fleet is easily the worst Deepgreen has ever encountered for its appalling labelling.
216-New GWR livery. Currently at SPM for staff training and familiarisation.
217-New GWR livery
218-New GWR livery.
219-New GWR livery.
220-New GWR livery.
221 "Reading Train Care Depot"-FGW livery.

Class 387
All class members are expected to be delivered in GWR Green from new.
387130-156 built so far, the Class 387 thread has more details.

Class 800: see the Class 800 thread for more details.
/0s: 5-car units.
001-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
002-Plain, non-TOC specific white (with red detailing at one cab end).
003 "Queen Elizabeth II/Queen Victoria"-New GWR Livery.
004 "Sir Daniel Gooch/Isambard Kingdom Brunel"- New GWR Livery.
005-Plain, non-TOC specific white with bird prints.
006-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
007-Still under construction.
008-Plain, non-TOC specific white. Now loose on the mainline.
009-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
010-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
011-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
012-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
013-Plain, non-TOC specific white. Delivered to Hitachi North Pole/Stoke Gifford.
014-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
015-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
016-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
017-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
018-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
019-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
020-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
021-Under construction.
022-Not yet built.
023-Not yet built.
024-Bodyshells all delivered in plain, non-TOC specific white.
025-Not yet built.
026-Not yet built.
027-Not yet built.
028-Not yet built.
029-Not yet built.
030-Not yet built.
031-Not yet built.
032-Not yet built.
033-Not yet built.
034-Not yet built. Shells at Tees Port (6/6/17).
035-Not yet built.
036-Not yet built.

/3s: 9-car units, originally due to be Class 801/0s.
301-Assumed Plain, non-TOC specific white.
302-At Doncaster. Assumed Plain, non-TOC specific white.
303-At Doncaster. Assumed Plain, non-TOC specific white.
304-Not yet built.
305-Not yet built.
306-Not yet built.
307-Not yet built.
308-Not yet built.
309-Not yet built.
310-Not yet built.
311-Not yet built.
312-Not yet built.
313-Not yet built.
314-Not yet built.
315-Not yet built.
316-Not yet built.
317-Not yet built.
318-Not yet built.
319-Not yet built.
320-Not yet built.
321-Not yet built.

Don't hesitate to add in any further changes; I'm sure there's a few I've missed!

 

[PHILIPE]

150243 is the only GWR unit that has the tweaked auto safety announcement at the start with a second security announcement tagged onto the end.

Just 150221 (which I haven't seen for ages!) 150249, 150261 and 150265 of the ex-Wessex units left to do, and 150216 and the left over carriages from 150209 and 150212.

Seen a picture on Facebook of 150221 at Cheltenham Monday evening

 

[reddragon]

On the class 800 thread there is a nice picture of 800.003 now partly green & partly white!!

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=3014668&postcount=4437

800003. The 3 centre coaches are green, but each outer coach looks like they have only done a small amount on the cab.

I hope there is a livery category for that one!

 

[fgwrich]

On the class 800 thread there is a nice picture of 800.003 now partly green & partly white!!

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=3014668&postcount=4437

800003. The 3 centre coaches are green, but each outer coach looks like they have only done a small amount on the cab.

I hope there is a livery category for that one!

Yes, Confused.com

 

[CosherB]

Does anyone know why the 143s are going to St Phillips Marsh and coming back with white bogies around the wheels?

Like this?

143

 

[Rhydgaled]

On the class 800 thread there is a nice picture of 800.003 now partly green & partly white!!

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=3014668&postcount=4437

800003. The 3 centre coaches are green, but each outer coach looks like they have only done a small amount on the cab.

I hope there is a livery category for that one!

Judging by other photos I've seen of the unit I think one side is still white, the other side as you say is green on the middle coaches with just a small green patch on the driving vehicle.

 

[rftorf]

Like this.

DSCF1889s by robfrowen, on Flickr

 

[leomartin125]

Like this.

DSCF1889s by robfrowen, on Flickr

If your going to repaint a unit, at least let them finish it before you take it out to show the public!

 

[CosherB]

If your going to repaint a unit, at least let them finish it before you take it out to show the public!

Vinyl, not paint. For the umpteenth time.

 

[RPI]

Glad 150243 has finally gone away, had a non-multi sticker at one end due to gangway floor being rotten!

 

[fgwrich]

Glad 150243 has finally gone away, had a non-multi sticker at one end due to gangway floor being rotten!

That Non/Multi sticker must have been a reccent thing as it didn't have it in April, however I'll agree with you. It did have a massive scrape down one side and was looking long in the tooth. In a way it's a still a shame, I like the light and brighter Local Lines livery. Sadly being vinyl (and Reggie rail underneath) it's started to look shabby and tired, and there's some pretty severe corroding going on underneath it all.

 

[ValleyLines142]

Hoping 150265 is next. Had it a few weeks ago on a Cheltenham to Worcester service and it looked incredibly tatty, both inside and outside. Either that or 150249 should be next.

150221 and 150261 still look fairly decent.

 

[pdeaves]

(blue vehicle in otherwise green set):

Like this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pdeaves/34778815371/in/photostream/

Today at Swindon, the opposite! A green vehicle in an otherwise blue carriage set (there was one green and one blue power car, too). https://www.flickr.com/photos/pdeaves/35144072686/in/photostream/

 

[Parallel]

That Non/Multi sticker must have been a reccent thing as it didn't have it in April, however I'll agree with you. It did have a massive scrape down one side and was looking long in the tooth. In a way it's a still a shame, I like the light and brighter Local Lines livery. Sadly being vinyl (and Reggie rail underneath) it's started to look shabby and tired, and there's some pretty severe corroding going on underneath it all.

The non-multi sticker has been on it for a couple of weeks I think.

Hoping 150265 is next. Had it a few weeks ago on a Cheltenham to Worcester service and it looked incredibly tatty, both inside and outside. Either that or 150249 should be next.

150221 and 150261 still look fairly decent.

150261 has been refreshed much more recently (FGW blue "Tarka Line" livery) and new flooring throughout. I think 150221 was the unit to have a refresh before that possibly? Due to accidental damage. Though I can't 100% remember when the damage happened. 150243 is indeed very grubby and long overdue. 150265 is in poor condition too and last time I used it, the automated safety announcements kept cutting themselves off, and then restarting a few seconds later. Beyond annoying! 150249 is a bit tired. The worst pre-refurb ones were 150266 that looked like it had a massive hole (corrosion) in the roof of one of the cabs, and 150233 had the right hand side of 1 carriage taped off with hazard tape.

 

[D1009]

If your going to repaint a unit, at least let them finish it before you take it out to show the public!

There is a test programme going on, changing the livery is unimportant in that regard. It will no doubt be finished eventually.

 

[LiftFan]

The non-multi sticker has been on it for a couple of weeks I think.



150261 has been refreshed much more recently (FGW blue "Tarka Line" livery) and new flooring throughout. I think 150221 was the unit to have a refresh before that possibly? Due to accidental damage. Though I can't 100% remember when the damage happened. 150243 is indeed very grubby and long overdue. 150265 is in poor condition too and last time I used it, the automated safety announcements kept cutting themselves off, and then restarting a few seconds later. Beyond annoying! 150249 is a bit tired. The worst pre-refurb ones were 150266 that looked like it had a massive hole (corrosion) in the roof of one of the cabs, and 150233 had the right hand side of 1 carriage taped off with hazard tape.

I believe 150221 had a fire in 2011 so had to be refreshed. Speaking of that particular unit, it seems to have a habit of always being the one that shows up on my services a lot more than any of the other units!

 

[PHILIPE]

The non-multi sticker has been on it for a couple of weeks I think.



150261 has been refreshed much more recently (FGW blue "Tarka Line" livery) and new flooring throughout. I think 150221 was the unit to have a refresh before that possibly? Due to accidental damage. Though I can't 100% remember when the damage happened. 150243 is indeed very grubby and long overdue. 150265 is in poor condition too and last time I used it, the automated safety announcements kept cutting themselves off, and then restarting a few seconds later. Beyond annoying! 150249 is a bit tired. The worst pre-refurb ones were 150266 that looked like it had a massive hole (corrosion) in the roof of one of the cabs, and 150233 had the right hand side of 1 carriage taped off with hazard tape.

150243 went to Wolverton a few days ago