Belgium: train derailed at Leuven

[westcoaster]

On one of the pictures i see a sign of a maximum speed of 70 km an hour. Now it is not clear whether it is towards Brussel or Mechelen. I see line 36; so it is Brussel.

Watch the right side of the picture.

Could the train have taken the turn out to fast, looking at the point work and the track to the point of stopping it looks very distorted.

Also trying to work out what the large mound of earth/ballast is all about, did an ohle support get knocked over.

One final thought I don't think the train took two separate routes, I.e points moving under the train. This picture from Twitter
https://twitter.com/BrusselsTimes/status/833268135566393345 shows the derailed middle carriage, not on the other line but derailed up against it. Me feeling is the train has struck some lines side equipment after running derailed which has caused the train to spin on its axis and push the train across towards the other line.

 

[gysev]

I had the opportunity to watch the EBP-images of the signalbox in Leuven, and it is clear that no red signal was passed at danger and that all switches worked as they should.

Seeing the picture of the distorted switch confirms my first idea that the train was travelling too fast. In october 2015, one coach of a Brussels - Geraardsbergen train derailed at Lot because of this (87 km/h in stead of 50 km/h on the switch). The first switch in Lot looked exactly the same.

 

[Flying_Turtle]

The derailment clearly occurred after the points. look at the whiter ballast, which means it has been revolved by something.
I know this is pretty obvious but it impresses me the short distance between the derailment and the train stopping (probably already in Emergency/ Full braking a few seconds before the derailment)

 

[MarkyT]

I know this is pretty obvious but it impresses me the short distance between the derailment and the train stopping (probably already in Emergency/ Full braking a few seconds before the derailment)

With that 1st car being pushed sideways through the ballast as it swung around I expect there was a lot of additional resistance absorbing energy and helping to slow the train down.

 

[Flying_Turtle]

that is certainly a possibility!

 

[MarcVD]

Preliminary investigations concluded that the cause is excessive speed. 100 km/h on the turnouts where it should have been 40.

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[theageofthetra]

Preliminary investigations concluded that the cause is excessive speed. 100 km/h on the turnouts where it should have been 40.

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I take it there is no equivalent of TPWS on this line?

 

[MarcVD]

The line is ETCS-equipped but not the station (yet). Where the accident occured it was still within station limits. You can see the boards indicating the end of ETCS domain on some of the pictures.


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[Groningen]

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