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Lorry ploughs into German market in Berlin

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...tmas-market-terror-9500721?service=responsive

Articles like the above make me even more concerned, how it all seems like a way to save Merkel.

The easiest thing to do when something awful happens is to do something awful yourself.

So a man steals a Polish truck and ploughs through a crowd of Christmas market shoppers in Berlin, and it turns out he had claimed asylum, and a lot of people go "well it just goes to show you shouldn't let them in".

I've lost count of the number of people who've said since: "This is the legacy of Angela Merkel's open door to refugees."

Well, no it isn't.
 
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I commend the article by Patrick Cockburn in the i newspaper today to anyone who wants some understanding of the problems every European government faces with terrorism imported from the Middle East. Cockburn is scathing about the so-called superpowers and their inability or unwillingness to deal in any meaningful way with the situations in Iraq or Syria which directly lead to the appalling acts we have witnessed in France, Belgium and Germany and may yet occur here. He makes the entirely fair point that, short of locking up every immigrant from those and other Middle/Near East country, the security services CANNOT follow every move made by anyone suspected of harbouring terrorist sympathies because they do not have, and never will have, the resources required to do this and, what's more. it's cowardly of any of these governments to pretend to their citizens that they can. The Germans can't be blamed for ending their surveillance of this Tunisian man imo as they had nothing to go on to justify continuing - it's very easy to be critical afterwards with the popular press leading the way, of course.

As regards bollards and pedestrians, the Mayor of London is, I understand, still looking at the possibility of a large part of Oxford Street being pedestrianized which I personally regard as bonkers on all sorts of levels. The number of bollards required to 'protect' pedestrians given all the traffic crossing Oxford Street on a north-south axis, unless these are all to be blocked too, would number in the hundreds and also deprive emergency services of ready access, as well as delivery lorries, buses, taxis, etc.
 

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The worrying state of affairs now prevails where IS seem to have people all over the world, not just in Europe, who will be prepared to "die for the cause" once contacted by encrypted messages.

I am pleased that Australia were able to foil the planned attacks over the festive season which had targeted high profile places.
 

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IS don't have people anywhere, they're far less organised a threat than the IRA ever were. In the organised attacks you typically find there's no encryption going on either - they just use "burner phones"

However lone wolf attacks like Nice and Berlin and Birstall don't use any communication, encrypted or otherwise. They rely on people watching extremist videos and websites and coming up with their own plans.
 
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