Trains that rarely reach their top speed

[mervyn72]

I was thinking about trains that don't often operate services or run on routes that permit their designed top speed. The most obvious one I can think of are the 43's and 222 on the MML. Both of which capable of 125mph but don't normally exceed 110mph. A pacer/150 could be on the Valleys in Wales for days on end, do they get to 75mph at all?

Any more thoughts welcome.

 

[D365]

I was under the impression that enhancement works on the MML have allowed 125mph running on certain sections.

 

[Mordac]

The MML has 125mph sections, though.

The ATW loco-hauled sets can reach 125mph (actually not 100% sure the DVT might be 110 only), but doubt they ever do.

 

[59CosG95]

AFAIK, the MML was recently upgraded to 125 in parts, so the 22s and 43s belonging to EMT are now being put through their paces!

 

[D365]

The ATW loco-hauled sets can reach 125mph (actually not 100% sure the DVT might be 110 only), but doubt they ever do.

I doubt that a Class 67 has ever reached 125mph

 

[59CosG95]

The MML has 125mph sections, though.

The ATW loco-hauled sets can reach 125mph (actually not 100% sure the DVT might be 110 only), but doubt they ever do.

Yes, the DVTs are capped at 110.

 

[168lover]

378s teaching their top speed of 75

 

[Tracked]

The 333's and 321's in West Yorkshire (inc. Doncaster-Leeds line), all 100mph capable but quickest line speed iirc is 90mph

 

[Mordac]

Yes, the DVTs are capped at 110.

Thanks, I thought that might be the case. Still, I doubt they do that either, tbh.

 

[westcoaster]

387's can go 110mph but only ever go 100 on AC and 90 on DC.

 

[najaB]

Class 390s and class 91+Mk4 - neither reach 140mph.

 

[fgwrich]

170s?

In all seriousness though, 455 & 456s?

 

[J-2739]

357s.

Limited to 75mph.

 

[43096]

I doubt that a Class 67 has ever reached 125mph

Wrong! 67023 was tested at 125mph not long after delivery using a short set of Mark 3s hired from Virgin.

 

[507021]

The Class 507s and 508s never reach 75 mph.

 

[Grumpy]

The 333's and 321's in West Yorkshire (inc. Doncaster-Leeds line), all 100mph capable but quickest line speed iirc is 90mph

I believe it's mainly 100mph south of Sandal

 

[185143]

The Class 507s and 508s never reach 75 mph.

Not even on a non stop Hooton-Bache?

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[DasLunatic]

The Electric lines out of Liverpool Street have a maximum speed of 70mph - the 315s that go down it have a max speed of 75mph.

Greater Anglia's fleet of Class 90s also never reach 110mph - the max speed on the GEML is 100.

 

[Bevan Price]

170s?

170s used to just about reach 100 mph (eventually) between Crewe & Stafford when they were used on CT Liverpool - Birmingham - East Anglia aervices.

 

[Mordac]

170s used to just about reach 100 mph (eventually) between Crewe & Stafford when they were used on CT Liverpool - Birmingham - East Anglia aervices.

They reach 100mph all the time between Glasgow and Edinburgh via Falkirk High.

 

[DasLunatic]

Not even on a non stop Hooton-Bache?

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If I've understood the Sectional Appendix correctly, Merseyrail trains never get above 60.

 

[D365]

Wrong! 67023 was tested at 125mph not long after delivery using a short set of Mark 3s hired from Virgin.

Okay, I doubt that it's ever been reached outside of testing.

 

[hexagon789]

The maximum speeds on the Merseyrail network are 60 mph on the Northern Line and 70 on the Wirral line. Either way those 507/8s are not reaching their 75 mph maximum.

 

[shaun]

Class 172s on London Midland - cant imagine they get anywhere near top speed in passenger service with the frequent stopping!

 

[hexagon789]

Especially considering that their gearing makes them take over 6.5 mins to reach 100 mph, according to the Porterbrook PDF Brochure.

 

[fowler9]

The 17:44 Northern service from Oxford Road to Lime Street. Ha ha.

 

[jax4154]

Class 357 have Max 100mph but never go faster then 75mph.

 

[Loop & Link]

If I've understood the Sectional Appendix correctly, Merseyrail trains never get above 60.

Linespeed is 70mph from near Bache to just before Hooton South Junction.

 

[dk1]

Greater Anglia's fleet of Class 90s also never reach 110mph - the max speed on the GEML is 100.

Oh I can assure you they do on locos where the ASL is isolated. Just keep it under your hat

 

[Bevan Price]

Class 172s on London Midland - cant imagine they get anywhere near top speed in passenger service with the frequent stopping!

I have been on one doing 98 mph on the Birmingham - Solihull -Stratford Upon Avon semi-fasts. These are booked non-stop between Dorridge & Stratford Parkway.