Your 8 least favourite MPs

[mikeg]

David Tredinnick - His views on things such as homeopathy and that astrology should be available on the NHS... quite frankly downright dangerous.

Andrea Leadsom - Some of her recent comments are frankly unacceptable.

IDS - Okay he resigned, but still had contempt for disabled people, his reference to 'normal people' without disabilities is a good indicator of this.

Nadine Dorries - Horrible right wing retrograde who like the confused left-winger Galloway thought appearing on reality TV is more important than representing her constituents or doing her duty for the country. The fact a clump of cells is more important to her than a living woman speaks volumes - Don't we all make mistakes?

Dianne Abbott - By no means my first choice, but seems to have grown increasingly out of touch in recent years. Shame because I used to quite like her.

Douglas Carswell - Anti-NHS, climate change denier, 'nuff said. Don't let your opinions get in the way of facts, please.

David Simpson - Worse than Douglas Carswell, believes in creationism, how can intelligent people be so stupid?

Angela Eagle - Another one I used to like, however her camp's dirty tricks against the current leadership are wrong, she should accept a more open contest. I say this as somebody who didn't vote for Corbyn last time 'round!

 

[SS4]

Rupert Murdoch - A dishonourable mention as he's not actually a sitting MP himself but the man with the biggest control of MPs Ensured the Leveson report never got implemented, allowed (if not outright orchestrated) a smear campaign against Corbyn from the day of his nomination and poured fuel on the fire of Leave lies.

IDS - Allowed his countrymen to die to save a few £££s and tried to block a report which stated the number of the dead. He also used taxpayer money to undercut the minimum wage with workfare - the only beneficiaries being the companies that got free labour!

Douglas Carswell - Doesn't believe in climate change. We're not America

Michael Gove - Not just incompetent but maliciously so. You mess with education and you mess with the future of children

Theresa May - Our lovely new PM who doesn't quite understand the concept of civil liberties. A previous poster mentioned Corbyn setting up a communist regime complete with KGB or Stasi. On the contrary, the secret police is more likely something May would implement

Jeremy Hunt - Perhaps he's more like Berkshire Hunt for trying to privatise the NHS via the back door and unilaterally impose a new contract on junior doctors.

Boris Johnson - He appears a bumbling idiot but I don't buy it. Sadly the press and public seem to swallow his sound bites. I cannot be sure but those words are almost certainly cleverly planned in advance.

I've got more but I need to go out

 

[Harbornite]

I'm not saying that they should be, I'm just asking people to list the 8 that they want in the Commons the least.
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What on earth are you talking about?

The reasons why I don't want Corblin as prime minister. I don't plan on living in the Union of British socialist republics. I didn't think it was that hard to grasp, I assume it was the acronym that threw you.

 

[Qwerty133]

Dianne Abbott
Alex Salmond
Jeremy Corbin
John McDonell
Naz Shah
David Lammy
Keith Vazz

 

[Arglwydd Golau]

(As for the whole Corbyn gang, how soon after a takeover of power do you think we might be seeing the special housing for the elite, the special shops offering goods not available to the ordinary people, the special clinics offering health services of a standard not available to the masses, and so on?)

Well, perhaps they can just take over the large country estates of our current ruling elites, many of whom still sit in our unelected second chamber and those that don't still wield considerable power. The special shops are already there, and clearly you haven't heard that they already have many private Health Clinics (utilising, I might add, staff trained at the expense of the state)

 

[prod_pep]

1. Diane Abbott
2. Michael Gove
3. Emily Thornberry
4. Angela Eagle
5. George Osbourne
6. Chukka Umuna
7. David Cameron
8. Frank Field

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Well, perhaps they can just take over the large country estates of our current ruling elite....

Wasn't something similar to this in vogue after 1789 in France?

 

[507021]

1) Iain Duncan Smith.
2) Michael Gove.
3) Stephen Crabb.
4) David Cameron.
5) Boris Johnson.
6) Priti Patel.
7) Andrea Leadsom.
8) George Osborne.

 

[miami]

Wasn't something similar to this in vogue after 1789 in France?

It may be worth recalling what befell Robespierre. Viva la revolution.

 

[backontrack]

The reasons why I don't want Corblin as prime minister. I don't plan on living in the Union of British socialist republics. I didn't think it was that hard to grasp, I assume it was the acronym that threw you.

No, it was just the drivel.

 

[me123]

I think I've narrowed it down to eight, although I've had to cheat a bit (No. 5). It's interesting that a lot of people above have selected 8 MPs from one political party, or at least from one side of the political spectrum. I hope my list is more balanced, recognising that there are good MPs who I disagree with. In no particular order:

1) Jeremy Hunt (Con)

This should be obvious. I found it hard not to list him in all eight slots. What an odious little man this is. It takes a special kind of incompetence to infuriate a generation of doctors, yet somehow he's managed to achieve this. Morale amongst junior doctors in the NHS is exceptionally low as a direct result of his rhetoric. He has deliberately lied and manipulated statistics to advance his cause, in the process damaging public trust in healthcare and damaging trust in healthcare professionals. He is an absolute disgrace as a politician.

I refuse to work as a doctor in England whilst this man is health secretary. It amazes me that he was not fired on Thursday.

2) Andrea Leadsom (Con)

I hadn't even heard of this woman until the last big TV debate before the referendum, and I wish it had stayed that way. She has proven herself to be quite a vile woman. In the past week alone, she has stated that men should not be employed in childcare in case they're paedophiles, and that childlessness makes you unable to lead a country (apologising to her opponent by text message). Her CV also appears to be a work of fiction, as does her campaigning platform in the referendum (although, to be fair, she is hardly alone in that regard).

3) Diane Abbott (Lab)

I do have to applaud the first black woman to be elected to the House of Commons, and I'll admit I do share some views with her. Actions to promote equality are always welcome. Unfortunately, she seems to be frankly racist herself at times against the white community, which does not help the cause of equality. Racism against any race is unacceptable.

4) Douglas Carswell (UKIP)

I do respect that, on his defection to UKIP, he sought legitimacy in a by-election. Thankfully he is currently their only MP. I strongly disagree with huge chunks of the manifesto he stood for. I disagree with his views on equality. I cannot fathom why anyone would want to repeal the Firearms Act, the Dangerous Dogs Act and the War Crimes Act. His denial of climate change is depressing.

5) Sinn Fein

All of them. I'm counting them as one, because even added together all of their contributions to parliament are less than that of the most inactive MP. Now, as a Scottish Nationalist, it will come as no surprise that I do not want to be ruled by Westminster. Yet, the SNP have demonstrated that you can be actively involved in the democratic process whilst wanting to change it. In spite of the fact that the SNP block would all vote themselves out of a job, they have been active in Westminster, and even praised for their enthusiasm on occasion (although they are not all perfect - see below). Sinn Fein on the other hand clearly have no intent to represent their constituents, who lack any representation on this important level. Whilst all active MPs can represent all of their constituents (even those who didn't vote for them), Sinn Fein fail to represent those in their constituencies who do want a voice at Westminster.

6) Nadine Dorries (Con)

I disagree strongly with this woman's views on equality, and her (thankfully failed) bill to promote abstinence only sex education was frankly moronic. She seems to allow her religious views to unduly influence her political position. However, my biggest anger comes from the fact that she abandoned her constituents to go on "I'm a Celebrity... No, really, I am". This demonstrates clearly where her priorities lie - shameful self-promotion over her duty to parliament and to her constituents.

7) Natalie McGarry (Ind, formerly SNP)

A lot of the gripes about her are allegations surrounding her use of political funds that she has the right to defend. I'm keeping an open mind with this whilst the investigation is ongoing. If proven, they are damning in and of themselves. To stick with hard facts, her online presence has been frankly repugnant, with quite a few horrendous comments made about Unionist members of the public that show Scottish Nationalism (and, indeed, Scotland itself) in a bad light.

8) Jeremy Corbyn (Lab)

His stubbornness in the face of opposition within his own party is an embarrassment. Ultimately, it is the whole country that suffers as a result of his party's internal disputes and his inability to command the respect of his own MPs. His inability to form a stable shadow cabinet wasn't really a huge issue in the immediate post-referendum period - after all there was no government to oppose. But now that Theresa May has formed a government, it must be held to account and it is the job of the shadow cabinet to perform that role. I agree that he was democratically elected to the position, but he needs to stand again to gain legitimacy and his failure to voluntarily do so has served only to damage his party and to weaken the Commons.

 

[AlterEgo]

Sinn Fein on the other hand clearly have no intent to represent their constituents, who lack any representation on this important level. Whilst all active MPs can represent all of their constituents (even those who didn't vote for them), Sinn Fein fail to represent those in their constituencies who do want a voice at Westminster.

But Sinn Féin voters (read: the majority in those constituencies) elect the MP knowing full well the MP will not take their seat. This is exactly the representation they voted for. The constituencies do not seem to have been harmed by the lack of MP, which tells you all you need to know about the relationship between Westminster and Northern Ireland.

 

[Harbornite]

No, it was just the drivel.

What drivel? Or is it just because I mocked Labour?
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I think I've narrowed it down to eight, although I've had to cheat a bit (No. 5). It's interesting that a lot of people above have selected 8 MPs from one political party, or at least from one side of the political spectrum. I hope my list is more balanced, recognising that there are good MPs who I disagree with. In no particular order:

1) Jeremy Hunt (Con)

This should be obvious. I found it hard not to list him in all eight slots. What an odious little man this is. It takes a special kind of incompetence to infuriate a generation of doctors, yet somehow he's managed to achieve this. Morale amongst junior doctors in the NHS is exceptionally low as a direct result of his rhetoric. He has deliberately lied and manipulated statistics to advance his cause, in the process damaging public trust in healthcare and damaging trust in healthcare professionals. He is an absolute disgrace as a politician.

I refuse to work as a doctor in England whilst this man is health secretary. It amazes me that he was not fired on Thursday.

2) Andrea Leadsom (Con)

I hadn't even heard of this woman until the last big TV debate before the referendum, and I wish it had stayed that way. She has proven herself to be quite a vile woman. In the past week alone, she has stated that men should not be employed in childcare in case they're paedophiles, and that childlessness makes you unable to lead a country (apologising to her opponent by text message). Her CV also appears to be a work of fiction, as does her campaigning platform in the referendum (although, to be fair, she is hardly alone in that regard).

3) Diane Abbott (Lab)

I do have to applaud the first black woman to be elected to the House of Commons, and I'll admit I do share some views with her. Actions to promote equality are always welcome. Unfortunately, she seems to be frankly racist herself at times against the white community, which does not help the cause of equality. Racism against any race is unacceptable.

4) Douglas Carswell (UKIP)

I do respect that, on his defection to UKIP, he sought legitimacy in a by-election. Thankfully he is currently their only MP. I strongly disagree with huge chunks of the manifesto he stood for. I disagree with his views on equality. I cannot fathom why anyone would want to repeal the Firearms Act, the Dangerous Dogs Act and the War Crimes Act. His denial of climate change is depressing.

5) Sinn Fein

All of them. I'm counting them as one, because even added together all of their contributions to parliament are less than that of the most inactive MP. Now, as a Scottish Nationalist, it will come as no surprise that I do not want to be ruled by Westminster. Yet, the SNP have demonstrated that you can be actively involved in the democratic process whilst wanting to change it. In spite of the fact that the SNP block would all vote themselves out of a job, they have been active in Westminster, and even praised for their enthusiasm on occasion (although they are not all perfect - see below). Sinn Fein on the other hand clearly have no intent to represent their constituents, who lack any representation on this important level. Whilst all active MPs can represent all of their constituents (even those who didn't vote for them), Sinn Fein fail to represent those in their constituencies who do want a voice at Westminster.

6) Nadine Dorries (Con)

I disagree strongly with this woman's views on equality, and her (thankfully failed) bill to promote abstinence only sex education was frankly moronic. She seems to allow her religious views to unduly influence her political position. However, my biggest anger comes from the fact that she abandoned her constituents to go on "I'm a Celebrity... No, really, I am". This demonstrates clearly where her priorities lie - shameful self-promotion over her duty to parliament and to her constituents.

7) Natalie McGarry (Ind, formerly SNP)

A lot of the gripes about her are allegations surrounding her use of political funds that she has the right to defend. I'm keeping an open mind with this whilst the investigation is ongoing. If proven, they are damning in and of themselves. To stick with hard facts, her online presence has been frankly repugnant, with quite a few horrendous comments made about Unionist members of the public that show Scottish Nationalism (and, indeed, Scotland itself) in a bad light.

8) Jeremy Corbyn (Lab)

His stubbornness in the face of opposition within his own party is an embarrassment. Ultimately, it is the whole country that suffers as a result of his party's internal disputes and his inability to command the respect of his own MPs. His inability to form a stable shadow cabinet wasn't really a huge issue in the immediate post-referendum period - after all there was no government to oppose. But now that Theresa May has formed a government, it must be held to account and it is the job of the shadow cabinet to perform that role. I agree that he was democratically elected to the position, but he needs to stand again to gain legitimacy and his failure to voluntarily do so has served only to damage his party and to weaken the Commons.

Good points there. I know this doesn't really matter in the big scheme of things, but I'm not keen on Leadsom's stance on homosexuality. It's backwards to say the least.

 

[backontrack]

What drivel? Or is it just because I mocked Labour?
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Good points there. I know this doesn't really matter in the big scheme of things, but I'm not keen on Leadsom's stance on homosexuality. It's backwards to say the least.

a) It's not because you mocked Labour, but it's all the stuff about the KGB and 'Commissar Corblin'. The man may be an idiot, but he's not a Stalinist.

b) Or climate change.

 

[RichmondCommu]

No, it was just the drivel.

I'm curious to know why you've changed your opinion on Jeremy Corbyn, given that a week or two a go you were complaining that Private Eye were picking on Jeremy Corbyn and now all of a sudden you're saying that he's "odious".

 

[Harbornite]

a) It's not because you mocked Labour, but it's all the stuff about the KGB and 'Commissar Corblin'. The man may be an idiot, but he's not a Stalinist.

b) Or climate change.

They're jokes? Did ye consider that?

 

[backontrack]

They're jokes? Did ye consider that?

I thought jokes were meant to be funny. But you keep banging on about this...on every thread...could you please realise that only you and Paul really do it?

 

[yorksrob]

They're jokes? Did ye consider that?

Sometimes the joke illuminates more about the joke teller than the subject.

 

[miami]

But Sinn Féin voters (read: the majority in those constituencies)

An MP has the duty to represent all of their constituents - including those that didn't vote for them, and those that didn't vote at all (not sure how Buckingham survive)

SF were elected in

Belfast West: 54% of voters, 31% of electorate
Newry & Armagh: 41% of voters, 26% of electorate
Tyrone West: 43%, 26%
Ulster Mid: 49%, 29%

Under any reading, in only one of those constituencies did they have a majority, and in reality a large number of people are disenfranchised.

But hey, as a country we voted en-mass for UKIP to not bother turning up and defending our interests in the EU parliament, so who cares about representative democracy.

 

[Harbornite]

Sometimes the joke illuminates more about the joke teller than the subject.

In this case, it illuminates the fact that I'm not too keen on Corbyn or socialism, or Labour.

 

[backontrack]

In this case, it illuminates the fact that I'm not too keen on Corbyn or socialism, or Labour.

It illuminates the fluorescent bee buzzing around in your similarly easily-disguisable bonnet.

 

[Arglwydd Golau]

Wasn't something similar to this in vogue after 1789 in France?

Not sure, before my time!

 

[yorksrob]

In this case, it illuminates the fact that I'm not too keen on Corbyn or socialism, or Labour.

Quite.

And that you illustrated it in a bit of a clumsy and non-endearing way.

 

[AlterEgo]

An MP has the duty to represent all of their constituents - including those that didn't vote for them, and those that didn't vote (not sure how Buckingham survive)

SF were elected in

Belfast West: 54% of voters, 31% of electorate
Newry & Armagh: 41% of voters, 26% of electorate
Tyrone West: 43%, 26%
Ulster Mid: 49%, 29%

Under any reading, in only one of those constituencies did they have a majority, and in reality a large number of people are disenfranchised.

But hey, as a country we voted en-mass for UKIP to not bother turning up and defending our interests in the EU parliament, so who cares about representative democracy.

Perhaps the people who didn't vote, should. After all, it must be really important to them that their MP doesn't even take a seat. Or, perhaps not, because Westminster consistently ignores the province which supplies only 2.7% of the seats in the Commons.

I don't agree with SF not taking their seats in the modern era, but the above speaks for itself.

 

[Harbornite]

I thought jokes were meant to be funny. But you keep banging on about this...on every thread...could you please realise that only you and Paul really do it?

On every thread? It's odd that are you are keeping count, and yet you seem to have failed at maths because I have only made such comments on a handful of threads. Bloody scots, awful at maths!
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Quite.

And that you illustrated it in a bit of a clumsy and non-endearing way.

Not really clumsy is it. You're just getting touchy because I'm dissing your leader, who is a nice bloke but a crap leader.
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It illuminates the fluorescent bee buzzing around in your similarly easily-disguisable bonnet.

Nice try, doesn't detract from the fact that Labour are crap.

 

[backontrack]

On every thread? It's odd that are you are keeping count, and yet you seem to have failed at maths because I have only made such comments on a handful of threads. Bloody scots, awful at maths!
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Not really clumsy is it. You're just getting touchy because I'm dissing your leader, who is a nice bloke but a crap leader.
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Nice try, doesn't detract from the fact that Labour are crap.

a) I'm not Scottish. And you know what I meant.

b) He's not getting touchy. That is a pretty bad thing to say, so I advise that you withdraw it.

c) You definitely have a bee in your bonnet, and you seem to love to lord this over everyone else.

 

[Harbornite]

a) I'm not Scottish. And you b***dy well know what I meant.

b) He's not getting touchy. That is a pretty bad thing to say, so I advise that you withdraw it.

c) You definitely have a bee in your bonnet, and you seem to love to lord this over everyone else.

I'll withdraw what I want.

Also you seem obsessed with the BIYB phrase, perhaps it is you who has one. Making a joke about Corbyn doesn't mean I have a bee in my bonnet, I couldn't care less because he won't ever be PM.

You're just using that phrase to diss someone who has a different opinion. I don't have a completely biased view of political parties, I actually try to see things from different viewpoints unlike you.

 

[backontrack]

I'll withdraw what I want.

Also you seem obsessed with the BIYB phrase, perhaps it is you who has one. Making a joke about Corbyn doesn't mean I have a bee in my bonnet, I couldn't care less because he won't ever be PM.

You're just using that phrase to diss someone who has a different opinion. I don't have a completely biased view of political parties, I actually try to see things from different viewpoints unlike you.

1. Fair enough. You'll probably come off the worse for it.

2. You've made far more Corbyn jokes than I've used that phrase! Are you in denial or what? I know that this is a far-off possibility, but what if I'm saying this because it's true? :roll:

3. I'm not dissing you, in fact you have just outright 'dissed' me by accusing me of not trying to see things from different viewpoints. When you're in a hole you're not meant to keep digging, you know. Disagreeing with you is not 'dissing', and neither is trying to tell the truth. What I've said is what I see, and doubtless it's what others see.

For the record, I don't support Corbyn. But give us all a break, whether we do or not! Nobody wants to hear your mindless blathering about Corbyn, nobody wants to hear your denial of it, nobody wants to hear your accusations of us 'dissing' you when we try to disagree, and nobody wants to hear you resorting to ad hominem. You're free to do it of course, though it seems that, right now, you are the only one you're listening to.

 

[miami]

Perhaps the people who didn't vote, should. After all, it must be really important to them that their MP doesn't even take a seat. Or, perhaps not, because Westminster consistently ignores the province which supplies only 2.7% of the seats in the Commons.

I don't agree with SF not taking their seats in the modern era, but the above speaks for itself.

Perhaps they should, but in Newry & Armagh 64% of people voted, more than 229 other constituencies. In the other two where a majority voted for "someone who will represent me in the commons", turnout was 60% and 61%, more than 106/108 constituencies.

Turnout in Fermanagh & South Tyrone was 73%, well above the UK average. 23078 voted SF, 23608 voted UUP, so that could easily have been a minority SF seat.

 

[Harbornite]

1. Fair enough. You'll probably come off the worse for it.

2. You've made far more Corbyn jokes than I've used that phrase! Are you in denial or what? I know that this is a far-off possibility, but what if I'm saying this because it's true? :roll:

3. I'm not dissing you, in fact you have just outright 'dissed' me by accusing me of not trying to see things from different viewpoints. When you're in a hole you're not meant to keep digging, you know. Disagreeing with you is not 'dissing', and neither is trying to tell the truth. What I've said is what I see, and doubtless it's what others see.

For the record, I don't support Corbyn. But give us all a break, whether we do or not! Nobody wants to hear your mindless blathering about Corbyn, nobody wants to hear your denial of it, nobody wants to hear your accusations of us 'dissing' you when we try to disagree, and nobody wants to hear you resorting to ad hominem. You're free to do it of course, though it seems that, right now, you are the only one you're listening to.

How many jokes have I used? What is it with trainspotters not getting jokes? .

Take it from me, you need to stop getting worked up over things. I don't hate Corbyn or anything and I don't hate Labour. I have a brain so I can acknowledge their social achievements. However, I will say this once only, I don't agree with their agenda and I don't agree with quite a lot of what Corbyn says. This is a forum and we have free speech (within limits of the forum rules) and nowhere does it say that one can't make jokes about political figures. Therefore I will continue to say what I want, within limits, about Corbyn.