4,30am train horn wakes residents

[me123]

But presumably the 05.30 flight to Frankfurt doesn't sound a horn as it goes over and noise is kept to a minimum? I wish I could still be in bed at 05.30!

Well, of course it doesn't. But it's still noise that wakes people up. My point was that noise does happen and you have to learn to live with it. It's considered necessary for the operation of various facilities that ultimately benefit the public. In this case, although I am awoken by the plane I don't complain because I realise that it is a necessity.

Whilst I do have sympathy being awoken by noise, it seems to be the case that the trains need to sound their horn for operational and safety purposes. Network Rail behave like good neighbours as best as they can, and do ask drivers to keep noise to a minimum. But operational safety comes before noise regulations, and so it should.

 

[Antman]

Well, of course it doesn't. But it's still noise that wakes people up. My point was that noise does happen and you have to learn to live with it. It's considered necessary for the operation of various facilities that ultimately benefit the public. In this case, although I am awoken by the plane I don't complain because I realise that it is a necessity.

Whilst I do have sympathy being awoken by noise, it seems to be the case that the trains need to sound their horn for operational and safety purposes. Network Rail behave like good neighbours as best as they can, and do ask drivers to keep noise to a minimum. But operational safety comes before noise regulations, and so it should.

Well that's fair enough then, all anybody can reasonably ask is that noise is kept to a minimum.

 

[Class 170101]

Having now decided to read this thread there is one thing that seems to be missing.

COMMON SENSE!!!

Children in a playground being noisy - to be expected
Trains using their horns on the railway - to be expected as per the rule book but courtesy to neighbours should be used particularly at night
'Orangemen' talking about their love lives in loud voices whilst working near houses - sorry unneccesary - tone it down.

 

[scott118]

Believe me, when you've got a Tamper doing its thing underneath your bedroom window at 4 o' clock in the morning, its horns blowing are the least of your worries!

Lift and Line, is what is needed, not to create the TSR. Hardly any issue, as it's not being squeezed monthly..

Yep, one to remember is that there are plenty of people who work nights. So many times I've been interrupted during the day whilst sleeping, lawnmowers, road outside being dug up, someone pressure-washing a drive, tree cutting, car horns, and all manner of other things.

So I'm afraid I have little sympathy for those who, occasionally, hear a noise during the night.

I'm with you on that one for sure, as there is way more 'disturbances' during the day..

 

[DaleCooper]

Lift and Line, is what is needed, not to create the TSR. Hardly any issue, as it's not being squeezed monthly.

What?

 

[Darren R]

Having now decided to read this thread there is one thing that seems to be missing.

COMMON SENSE!!!

Actually, there also seems to be a complete lack of a sense of humour or any sense of proportion!

Lift and Line, is what is needed, not to create the TSR. Hardly any issue, as it's not being squeezed monthly..

This is a very po-faced reaction to a comment I made several days ago which was so obviously no more than a joke. So much for my attempts to lighten the mood!

 

[IanD]

Actually, there also seems to be a complete lack of a sense of humour or any sense of proportion!



So much for my attempts to lighten the mood!

You're wasting your time, mate. You'll learn, eventually.

 

[DaleCooper]

Actually, there also seems to be a complete lack of a sense of humour or any sense of proportion!




This is a very po-faced reaction to a comment I made several days ago which was so obviously no more than a joke. So much for my attempts to lighten the mood!

Well I did suggest silent horns.

 

[scott118]

Actually, there also seems to be a complete lack of a sense of humour or any sense of proportion!
This is a very po-faced reaction to a comment I made several days ago which was so obviously no more than a joke. So much for my attempts to lighten the mood!

sorry chap - i've been away on an easter hunt, damn those chocolate eggs, they take some finding for sure. Otherwise i'd have replied sooner..
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---

What?

excuse me?

 

[PHILIPE]

Listened to discussion on Jeremy Vine Show on Radio 2 whilst in car re application to build 500 houses next to a Theme Park in Cornwall and the noise from the Roller Coaster (people riding). The opinion of everybody who spoke was that the Park, on which 1m recently spent on improvements, should just carry on. It was there first so if there any doubts re the incoming residents moving in and complaining about any noise afterwards, it is up to the Developer to work round any potential problem

 

[class 9]

Whilst I agree with you in most respects but from my personal experience this answer is NOT acceptable by local Authority "Environmental Health Officers". Car drivers are aware that the Highway code states the horn should not be used between 2330 and 0700 except in an emergency.
I have used EHOs to force a nearby nursery school to reduce children shouting in a playground. The age old argument "I decided to live next to it" did not hold. Up to 20 young children screaming for 90 minutes within 30 yards of my property was not expected.
Finally with my experience working on a heritage railway we get NIMBYs who buy a house next to our railway who after hearing the trains then complain to the local EHOs. We are expected to find a solution acceptable to the complainant.

Double standards or what??

 

[ComUtoR]

Trains blow there horns for safety not for fun

 

[Searchlight]

Well I did suggest silent horns.

I thought you might like to ponder this item from Hawaii...April 2015.
A 3ft gauge Heritage Line at Ewa, Oahu, Hawaii, runs through a golf resort there. A televised tournament was in progress, so, the organisers requested that the diesel loco klaxon be silent, "To avoid distracting the players"......Hows about that then?

 

[A-driver]

I thought you might like to ponder this item from Hawaii...April 2015.

A 3ft gauge Heritage Line at Ewa, Oahu, Hawaii, runs through a golf resort there. A televised tournament was in progress, so, the organisers requested that the diesel loco klaxon be silent, "To avoid distracting the players"......Hows about that then?

Sounds very boring for the driver. It's always a good laugh when passing the golf courses at knebworth and potters bar to give a loud, short & sharp blast as you pass if you see someone concentrating and just about to take a shot!

 

[reb0118]

Because children should be silent......

.....correct.

In my father's day it was "children should be seen & not heard" but I prefer "children should be neither seen nor heard"

I don't really mind young people but I have noticed the amount of screaming has significantly increased amongst young girls when they are out playing - it can fair cut right through you.

 

[dave12435]

Seriously if you live near to or next to a railway you can hardly complain about hearing trains
Same as if you were near a motorway and complained about traffic noise

 

[furnessvale]

Seriously if you live near to or next to a railway you can hardly complain about hearing trains
Same as if you were near a motorway and complained about traffic noise

But people do. There have been serious attempts by politicians in the past to stop night-time freight on the Hazel Grove to Altrincham line.

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

.....correct.

In my father's day it was "children should be seen & not heard" but I prefer "children should be neither seen nor heard"

I don't really mind young people but I have noticed the amount of screaming has significantly increased amongst young girls when they are out playing - it can fair cut right through you.

Yes, I do know what you mean. I had noisy kids and parents a few days ago on a train that I was travelling on, I was hoping for a nice peaceful journey.

There was a complaint in the media last week about someone who was staying in a Seaside hotel and complained about seagulls noise in the night.!

 

[DeeGee]

.....correct.

In my father's day it was "children should be seen & not heard" but I prefer "children should be neither seen nor heard"

I don't really mind young people but I have noticed the amount of screaming has significantly increased amongst young girls when they are out playing - it can fair cut right through you.

Is this seriously still going on?

I had the misfortune to live above Sevenoaks High Street a number of years ago.

The "noise nuisance" caused by a couple of hundred ADULTS on a Friday or Saturday night - for hours, often after 11pm, was considerably worse than that made by a couple of hundred children enjoying themselves DURING THE DAY!

And a group of "ladies" shouting out "Call 911 and tell them it's Janet!" just before midnight cuts through you more than some little girls running about.

Lighten up folks, you've had your chance to be young, if you didn't take it that's your look out! So long as nobody's getting hurt or breaking the law, let them get on with it.

 

[IanD]

Lighten up folks, you've had your chance to be young, if you didn't take it that's your look out! So long as nobody's getting hurt or breaking the law, let them get on with it.

I think the point is that when some people were young, their parents instilled a sense of discipline and the principle of showing respect and consideration for other people. Sadly, many modern parents fail to do so with their precious Tarquin and Tabitha.

 

[GRALISTAIR]

And as for moving away from the railway, what sale value does a house have if you can't sleep in it? If I knew nothing of the railway, I think I might panic.

Absolutely huge. My UK house backs onto the WCML north of Preston - OK it is in a cutting. But they are never going to build houses on it - which means I have HUGE PRIVACY - it ADDS value to the house. Since they were built in 1965 they sold for 3000 pounds. Now the average one sells (and sells quickly) for about 280,000 pounds. Living next to a railway has huge advantages.

 

[Darandio]

Yes, I do know what you mean. I had noisy kids and parents a few days ago on a train that I was travelling on, I was hoping for a nice peaceful journey.

How can you honestly hope for a nice peaceful journey? It's public transport, the clue is in the name.

 

[bitmadmax]

Perhaps this guy has got a job driving real trains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ciNwZW-C0g&feature=youtu.be&t=1m47s

 

[Lockwood]

Perhaps this guy has got a job driving real trains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ciNwZW-C0g&feature=youtu.be&t=1m47s

That might be the most irritating Let's Play I've seen for a while

 

[bramling]

How can you honestly hope for a nice peaceful journey? It's public transport, the clue is in the name.

If everyone shrieked at each other like some do, the travelling environment would be unbearable.

Sadly, it always seems to be the case that the loudest people are those with the most inherently annoying voices.