General Election 2015 - Thoughts/Predictions/Results

[St Rollox]

Slightly different I think



Are you for real?

Just as real as English nationalism.
A lot of low level intimidation has already started to happen according to friends south of the border.

 

[Bodiddly]

If the Election produces a result with a Conservative Majority in England and Wales (combined) and SNP in Scotland then that is the democratic will of the electorate and should be respected by the Political Parties.

The SNP should work with the Conservatives and could act as a moderating force in the same way the Lib Dems have in 2010-15.

A Snowballs chance in hell comes to mind. Maybe you are not familiar with the politics in Scotland regarding the Conservative Party? Any coalition with the Tories would be an insult to the Scottish electorate and result in a swift kick to the ballots!

Just as real as English nationalism.
A lot of low level intimidation has already started to happen according to friends south of the border.

In what way? and why?

 

[Butts]

A Snowballs chance in hell comes to mind. Maybe you are not familiar with the politics in Scotland regarding the Conservative Party? Any coalition with the Tories would be an insult to the Scottish electorate and result in a swift kick to the ballots!

I'm quite familiar with the politics regarding The Conservative Party in Scotland .

Their share of the vote in Scotland was similar to the LD's in the whole of the UK at the last Election yet no one kicked up a fuss about that when the LD's went into Coalition.

Large Areas of Southern England with few Labour MP's and a higher population than the whole of Scotland put up with Labour Governments without whining on about it. The same can be said of Northern England with regard to the Conservatives.

 

[St Rollox]

A Snowballs chance in hell comes to mind. Maybe you are not familiar with the politics in Scotland regarding the Conservative Party? Any coalition with the Tories would be an insult to the Scottish electorate and result in a swift kick to the ballots!



In what way? and why?

General snide comments never heard before about Jocks and SNP.
The general right in England were never noted for being liberal to any group from the Celtic fringe that got above their station.
A weak labour party aided by the SNP running the UK would send English nationalism into a frenzy.
English votes for English laws is only a taste of the future.

 

[Butts]

General snide comments never heard before about Jocks and SNP.
The general right in England were never noted for being liberal to any group from the Celtic fringe that got above their station.
A weak labour party aided by the SNP running the UK would send English nationalism into a frenzy.
English votes for English laws is only a taste of the future.

With the greatest of respect you are living in "Cloud Cuckoo Land"

 

[yorksrob]

General snide comments never heard before about Jocks and SNP.
The general right in England were never noted for being liberal to any group from the Celtic fringe that got above their station.
A weak labour party aided by the SNP running the UK would send English nationalism into a frenzy.
English votes for English laws is only a taste of the future.

If the English are anything like the worst elements of the anti-unionist brigade in Scotland during the referendum then it will be a poor show indeed.

 

[St Rollox]

With the greatest of respect you are living in "Cloud Cuckoo Land"

Anyway, fair play to the Scottish Tories and their leader Ruth Davidson, she's doing a first class job of splitting the unionist vote.
In fact the Tories have played a blinder since the referendum.
And as we all know, David Cameron was the real winner last September.

 

[Bodiddly]

I'm quite familiar with the politics regarding The Conservative Party in Scotland .

Their share of the vote in Scotland was similar to the LD's in the whole of the UK at the last Election yet no one kicked up a fuss about that when the LD's went into Coalition.

Large Areas of Southern England with few Labour MP's and a higher population than the whole of Scotland put up with Labour Governments without whining on about it. The same can be said of Northern England with regard to the Conservatives.

Is that the same Labour government that pandered to the Southern voter during the 'New Labour' Blair years?
And show me a Northern constituency that has got a good thing to say about the Tories and I will show you a shed full of Turkey's voting for Christmas.
I think you need to get out and about.

 

[GrimsbyPacer]

I'm quite familiar with the politics regarding The Conservative Party in Scotland .

Their share of the vote in Scotland was similar to the LD's in the whole of the UK at the last Election yet no one kicked up a fuss about that when the LD's went into Coalition.

Large Areas of Southern England with few Labour MP's and a higher population than the whole of Scotland put up with Labour Governments without whining on about it. The same can be said of Northern England with regard to the Conservatives.

The North of England does whine about the Tories and Lib Dems.
I for one want a devolved parliament like what Scotland, London and Wales have! Many Northerners are suffering like never before, at least Thatcher. Look at how much government funding per head Kingston on Thames gets and look what Kingston upon Hull gets!

 

[Butts]

Is that the same Labour government that pandered to the Southern voter during the 'New Labour' Blair years?
And show me a Northern constituency that has got a good thing to say about the Tories and I will show you a shed full of Turkey's voting for Christmas.
I think you need to get out and about.

Carlisle - represented by an Aberdonian educated at Dundee University

Penrith and the Border

Can't get much further North than that !!! (in England)
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The North of England does whine about the Tories and Lib Dems.
I for one want a devolved parliament like what Scotland, London and Wales have! Many Northerners are suffering like never before, at least Thatcher. Look at how much government funding per head Kingston on Thames gets and look what Kingston upon Hull gets!

When you say North of England that excludes the far North - should it be mid-north

All the "real Northern" seats are Conservative or Lib Dem

 

[yorksrob]

It's true. There are posh true blue Northern constituencies. Not that many though!!

 

[Butts]

It's true. There are posh true blue Northern constituencies. Not that many though!!

Yes but they cover large areas of largely unspoilt areas amongst the finest in England - not carbuncles like the big Cities further South.

The South of Scotland is (or was) exactly the same.

 

[Bodiddly]

The North of England does whine about the Tories and Lib Dems.
I for one want a devolved parliament like what Scotland, London and Wales have! Many Northerners are suffering like never before, at least Thatcher. Look at how much government funding per head Kingston on Thames gets and look what Kingston upon Hull gets!

As a Scot, I have always thought the North of England gets a very raw deal by the Westminster government. I have said before in posts that the Northern Rail franchise is on it's knees because of the current government. If you can't even invest in the basics i.e transport, what hope have you got for anything else?

 

[yorksrob]

Yes but they cover large areas of largely unspoilt areas amongst the finest in England - not carbuncles like the big Cities further South.

The South of Scotland is (or was) exactly the same.

Ah, well I'd consider the West Riding to be the true North of England, rather than the empty bits, but maybe I'm biased

 

[St Rollox]

Those of us on the Scottish Left always had an option of walking away from Labour.
The Labour Party's behaviour during the referendum when they they lined up with the Tories gave us that excuse.
I really feel for those working class North of England communities that have to rely on the labour party for a fair crack at equality.

 

[ainsworth74]

Ah, well I'd consider the West Riding to be the true North of England, rather than the empty bits, but maybe I'm biased

I think you'll find Teesside, Wearside and Tyneside to be the true North of England. So hop it!

 

[Bodiddly]

Those of us on the Scottish Left always had an option of walking away from Labour.
The Labour Party's behaviour during the referendum when they they lined up with the Tories gave us that excuse.
I really feel for those working class North of England communities that have to rely on the labour party for a fair crack at equality.

We could try to move the border South a wee bit............!

 

[yorksrob]

I think you'll find Teesside, Wearside and Tyneside to be the true North of England. So hop it!

Ah well, I don't consider you to be an empty bit - but we're still the North sonny jim

 

[TheKnightWho]

It's true. There are posh true blue Northern constituencies. Not that many though!!

As a resident of the only Tory seat in the north-east, I can vouch for this. The county set do come out of the woodwork for the elections.

 

[GrimsbyPacer]

We could try to move the border South a wee bit............!

I wouldn't mind that idea. SNP are a party I want to vote for and I'm in England!

Just a throught here...
Split England into several devolved regions, but based on the party they vote for and not regions. A Tory, Labour, Lib Dem and Minor parties assembly. So you really do get the government you vote for.
Any comments on my party assembly idea?

 

[yorksrob]

As a resident of the only Tory seat in the north-east, I can vouch for this. The county set do come out of the woodwork for the elections.

Indeed, the true blues are nothing if not reliable !

 

[MidnightFlyer]

As a resident of the only Tory seat in the north-east,

Stockton South moved regions then?

 

[radamfi]

Clegg hinted this morning he would be prepared to accept an EU referendum to be part of another Con+Lib Dem coalition. That would be a bigger sell out than the one on tuition fees.

 

[Dave1954]

Im Sorry if it a bit off topic but my Wife and I feeling very under decided to whom we shall vote for come May 7th my work is self employed but im not company registared
Im 60 years old i have 6 years for retirement with no private pension we sold our house 10 years ago and now living in a rented bungalow.My wife is 57 and working 31 hours a week with a 41 years service record . So looking at the brief descriptions and the predicament of ourselfs Please can someone point our way the best party to vote for.
Kind Regards Dave/Lillian.

 

[me123]

Clegg hinted this morning he would be prepared to accept an EU referendum to be part of another Con+Lib Dem coalition. That would be a bigger sell out than the one on tuition fees.

I thought the Lib Dems were in favour of a referendum to some degree, albeit with the aim of increasing our presence in the European Union rather than withdrawing.

 

[47802]

I wouldn't mind that idea. SNP are a party I want to vote for and I'm in England!

Just a throught here...
Split England into several devolved regions, but based on the party they vote for and not regions. A Tory, Labour, Lib Dem and Minor parties assembly. So you really do get the government you vote for.
Any comments on my party assembly idea?

I would I have no time what so ever for the SNP or Welsh Nationalists or English Nationalists for that matter, I consider myself British first and foremost and have no time for those nationalists who are really just an excuse because they don't happen to like the British government that's in power at the moment.

 

[me123]

Im Sorry if it a bit off topic but my Wife and I feeling very under decided to whom we shall vote for come May 7th my work is self employed but im not company registared
Im 60 years old i have 6 years for retirement with no private pension we sold our house 10 years ago and now living in a rented bungalow.My wife is 57 and working 31 hours a week with a 41 years service record . So looking at the brief descriptions and the predicament of ourselfs Please can someone point our way the best party to vote for.
Kind Regards Dave/Lillian.

Sorry, I don't think anyone can really tell you who to vote for.

You need to listen to what the parties are saying and read their manifestos. Based on what you then will know about where each party stands, and considering your own personal circumstances and beliefs (which you have tried to summarise here, but it is a very brief summary of your life) make an informed decision. Vote for the candidate/party you agree with most. If you don't agree with any of them, vote for the one you disagree with least.

I know that's not the kind of answer you were hoping for, but anyone who tells you otherwise is probably just trying to gather support for their own party of choice. We just don't know enough about you to make a decision on your behalf, nor can we ever know enough.

Please do vote, though.

 

[Bodiddly]

Im Sorry if it a bit off topic but my Wife and I feeling very under decided to whom we shall vote for come May 7th my work is self employed but im not company registared
Im 60 years old i have 6 years for retirement with no private pension we sold our house 10 years ago and now living in a rented bungalow.My wife is 57 and working 31 hours a week with a 41 years service record . So looking at the brief descriptions and the predicament of ourselfs Please can someone point our way the best party to vote for.
Kind Regards Dave/Lillian.

Unfortunately for you both, it's a very difficult question to answer. Taking into account your location, customer base (for your particular business) your wife's probably insufficient pension and the fact that the Tories have basically promised to decimate anything you have ever earned before, I would say don't vote Tory (then I'm biased)!

I would I have no time what so ever for the SNP or Welsh Nationalists or English Nationalists for that matter, I consider myself British first and foremost and have no time for those nationalists who are really just an excuse because they don't happen to like the British government that's in power at the moment.

Well, you just enjoy living in your bubble, you won't have to worry about anyone else. :roll:

 

[Dave1954]

Thanks ME123 , We have watched most of the live debates but i find its aimed more at the younger generation which i fully understand they are the future of this nation , i failed to tell you in my post my Wife has a private pension from the age of 16 .... myself no private pension . so which will be the best party to vote for regarding our age bracket in which do have a couple more years to contribute to the Nation ..... Regards Dave/Lillian .
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Does that include private pension Bodiddly ??
regards Dave/Lillian ..
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Does that include private pension Bodiddly ??
regards Dave/Lillian ..

 

[TheKnightWho]

Stockton South moved regions then?

Hexham, and it's when I'm not at uni