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US Presidental Election 2016

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Given that the first candidate from either party has declared that they're running for President, in the shape of Ted Cruz, I felt it was time to open a thread, even though we have another 20 or so months until the election itself.

It's going to be interesting seeing if America chooses a right-wing party (Dems) or a teetering-off-the-cliff-they're-so-right-wing-party (GOP) to lead the country after Obama's second term comes to an end. :p But in all seriousness, I reckon America will see another four years of the Democrats in the White House, given that the Republican Party is pretty much toxic at the moment...but I don't think it will be Hilary Clinton though. I can see her falling behind again in the race again like in 2008 to a younger Democrat senator, and the recent scandals won't help her cause.

Meanwhile, Mr Cruz has already put his foot in it by claiming he stopped listening to rock music after 9/11 due to its reaction to the attacks. http://www.nme.com/news/various-art...witter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tedcruz

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Republican senator Ted Cruz has said that his taste in music changed following the 9/11 attacks in the US.

Speaking to CBS yesterday (March 24), the Republican senator explained how he "didn't like how rock music responded" to the attacks in New York and instead switched to listening to country and western.

Cruz said he felt more in common with country artists in the years after 2001.

He said: "Country music collectively, the way they responded, it resonated with me and I have to say, just as a gut level, I had an emotional reaction that says, 'These are my people.' And so ever since 2001 I listen to country music, but I'm an odd country music fan because I didn’t listen to it prior to 2001."

Mods, if it's too early to open such a thread, feel free to close it, given that we have an election of our own to discuss for the next few months.
 
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But in all seriousness, I reckon America will see another four years of the Democrats in the White House, given that the Republican Party is pretty much toxic at the moment...but I don't think it will be Hilary Clinton though. I can see her falling behind again in the race again like in 2008 to a younger Democrat senator, and the recent scandals won't help her cause.
I'm predicting:
  • Jeb Bush to win the Republican nomination by a comfortable margin over Chris Christie and Marco Rubio with everyone else further behind.
  • Hillary Clinton to win an ugly contest for the Democratic nomination which could even go to a floor fight at the nominating convention.
  • The general election to be a very tight win for Clinton in the battle of the two parties' royal families, but a real chance for Bush if Monica Lewinsky comes out from underneath the desk and starts throwing grenades at Clinton.
  • Republicans to keep control of the House and Senate, but with a reduced majority in the House and most of the districts changing hands to be lost to independents rather than to Democratic nominees.

It does make me appreciate the way we do federal elections in Australia - a relatively short period of phony war before the start of a four week campaign.
 

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I predict:
The gun industry will give generous support to selected candidates who oppose gun control.
The oil industry will be generous to candidates who deny that global warming is happening.

A lot of money will be spent by those who are more interested in protecting their own financial interests than in improving the quality of life for the majority of the population.
 

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I predict:
The gun industry will give generous support to selected candidates who oppose gun control.
The oil industry will be generous to candidates who deny that global warming is happening.

A lot of money will be spent by those who are more interested in protecting their own financial interests than in improving the quality of life for the majority of the population.

AMERICA, f*** yea!

Meanwhile in the civilised world...
 

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I'm predicting:
  • Jeb Bush to win the Republican nomination by a comfortable margin over Chris Christie and Marco Rubio with everyone else further behind.
  • Hillary Clinton to win an ugly contest for the Democratic nomination which could even go to a floor fight at the nominating convention.
  • The general election to be a very tight win for Clinton in the battle of the two parties' royal families, but a real chance for Bush if Monica Lewinsky comes out from underneath the desk and starts throwing grenades at Clinton.
  • Republicans to keep control of the House and Senate, but with a reduced majority in the House and most of the districts changing hands to be lost to independents rather than to Democratic nominees.

It does make me appreciate the way we do federal elections in Australia - a relatively short period of phony war before the start of a four week campaign.

Heard Ted Cruz speach the other day and he seems a bit wishy washy.
As with Jeb Bush = George Bush.
I reckon the Democrats may win another term.
 

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If Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic nomination then the Presidency will we see a situation similar to when Putin couldn't stand as President after two consecutive terms and instead conveniently became 'Prime Minister' until the following election when he became President again? Anyone remember the name of that putative President? Me neither. In other words, who will be the power behind the throne? Not suggesting that H. Clinton is just a stooge but W.Clinton will get more than his tuppenceworth in, and be listened to/fawned at by those who mistake sociopathy for charisma.
 

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I thought at this point it was accepted that the Clinton's are married purely for the sakes of appearances? I.e. they don't really have anything to do with each other unless they have to. Not sure that's the best basis for Bill Clinton to be pulling strings...
 

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I thought at this point it was accepted that the Clinton's are married purely for the sakes of appearances? I.e. they don't really have anything to do with each other unless they have to. Not sure that's the best basis for Bill Clinton to be pulling strings...

A mutual dependancy (assuming a Clinton presidency) based on knowing wherE the bodies are buried?:)
 

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And a few more comments.
There is no chance of anyone becoming president (or even a candidate) unless:
1. They are at least an everyday multi-millionaire.
2. They profess to be a "good Christian" person.
3. They support strong action in favour of "law & order".
The latter immediately means they must also be a hypocritical liar, since:
they cannot criticise Israel, and demand that Israel withdraw from the lands that they have stolen from the Palestinians.
 

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Given that the first candidate from either party has declared that they're running for President, in the shape of Ted Cruz, I felt it was time to open a thread, even though we have another 20 or so months until the election itself.

It's going to be interesting seeing if America chooses a right-wing party (Dems) or a teetering-off-the-cliff-they're-so-right-wing-party (GOP) to lead the country after Obama's second term comes to an end. :p But in all seriousness, I reckon America will see another four years of the Democrats in the White House, given that the Republican Party is pretty much toxic at the moment...but I don't think it will be Hilary Clinton though. I can see her falling behind again in the race again like in 2008 to a younger Democrat senator, and the recent scandals won't help her cause.

Meanwhile, Mr Cruz has already put his foot in it by claiming he stopped listening to rock music after 9/11 due to its reaction to the attacks. http://www.nme.com/news/various-art...witter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tedcruz



Mods, if it's too early to open such a thread, feel free to close it, given that we have an election of our own to discuss for the next few months.

Please make my day (only a few minutes left) by telling me Ted Cruz's nickname is 'Missile'.:lol:
 

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Please make my day (only a few minutes left) by telling me Ted Cruz's nickname is 'Missile'.:lol:
Ted is already a nickname - because Rafael is an even less electable first name than Barack.

I would have thought 'Tom' would be better, but just a little nasty as he's nowhere near that crazy.
 

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Ted is already a nickname - because Rafael is an even less electable first name than Barack.

I would have thought 'Tom' would be better, but just a little nasty as he's nowhere near that crazy.

Rafael might get a few Hispanic speakers voting for him on the basis of the name.
 
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