What trains will virgin be using on the east coast main line

[LNW-GW Joint]

I'm going from the quote found in a paper that's it, not really bothered if she is an MP or not.

She is the government minister whose signature is on the contract with Inter City Railways.
With the exception of Patrick McLoughlin nobody has more power over letting rail franchises at the moment.

 

[swt_passenger]

I'm going from the quote found in a paper that's it, not really bothered if she is an MP or not.

I thought that might be a possible explanation. Bit of a sad indictment of modern journalism then?

 

[Stats]

For the record here is the question and answer relating to the Claire Perry quote

Q Asked by Ian Lavery (Wansbeck)
Asked on: 01 December 2014
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To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, with reference to his Written Statement of 27 November 2014, Official Report, column 49-50WS on Rail Franchising, how many high speed trains there are on the East Coast Main Line; how many will be replaced by new Intercity Express Programme (IEP) trains; and how many will remain in service on the (a) East Coast, (b) national network and (c) regional network after the introduction of IEP trains.

Answered by: Claire Perry
Answered on: 08 December 2014

The current fleet of 44 trains made up of 14 High Speed Trains (HSTs) and 30 Inter City 225s (IC225s) on the InterCity East Coast will be replaced by 65 new state-of-the-art trains provided by the Intercity Express Programme from 2018. These trains will be assembled at the Hitachi plant in Newton Aycliffe providing around 730 jobs. Inter City Railways Ltd also expects to provide 6 additional high speed intercity trains to supplement the fleet. Plans for cascading the rolling stock from the InterCity East Coast franchise to other parts of the network are a matter for the ROSCOs (Rolling stock leasing companies).

 

[Doctor Fegg]

Can't believe no-one's posted this shot of the new trains to be used by Virgin on the ECML.

 

[Saint66]

Can't believe no-one's posted this shot of the new trains to be used by Virgin on the ECML.

Hold on, I thought that was an image of the trains Virgin will be using when they no doubt eventually win the Northern franchise?

 

[XCTurbostar]

Can't believe no-one's posted this shot of the new trains to be used by Virgin on the ECML.

Doctor Fegg - Don't forget Virgin Liveried Pacers for Harrogate services with pantograph coaches and a full buffet!

It seems logical that Virgin/Stagecoach would utilise the Class 91s as let's not forget that they are refurbishing them before IEP takes over so it's not like they're going to have to do too much to them after IEP.
It's all hands in the air at this point. It's going to have to be an electric train so in that respect there isnt really much choice..
I personally think that this might have been a good place for e-Voyagers to fit into the equation. Not Baby Pendolinos or whatever that no-sense was about.
I hope no-one on this topic actually takes it seriously because I doubt VT/SC have much idea either!
Thanks,
Ross

 

[Suraggu]

I have been informed negotiations are underway with EMT to sub lease a HST whilst the VTEC fleet undergoes refurbishment from March/April 2015.
One set will be unavailable with the 5 on maintenance a hire in is required to keep the current level of service.

 

[CosherB]

Yeah Its interesting what Porterbrook said about the units, that its almost impossible to get spares for the Paxman engines with them having to source them from Australia and use MAN truck parts as well. And just keeping the bodies in one piece was also becoming more and more expensive as they aged such that unless someone desperately wanted them and was willing to offer a lot of money to keep them running there wouldn't be any point in modifying them or keeping them in service.

Engines aside you wonder what condition the others are in.

MAN now own Paxman and offer OEM parts globally. I don't believe there are any MAN truck engine components that would be used in a loco engine.

http://www.mandieselturbo.co.uk/0000497/Products/Paxman.htmlhttp://

 

[cjmillsnun]

MAN now own Paxman and offer OEM parts globally. I don't believe there are any MAN truck engine components that would be used in a loco engine.

http://www.mandieselturbo.co.uk/0000497/Products/Paxman.htmlhttp://

They still support the Valenta. That should please the 125 group when they finally get their hands on a 43.

 

[Murph]

They still support the Valenta. That should please the 125 group when they finally get their hands on a 43.

The Royal Navy still has quite widespread use of the Valenta, I believe, unless they have done a lot of re-engineing. Our nuclear deterrent even relies on a pair of 12RP200s per sub, and the attack subs have a pair of 16RP200s. Since they were still being fitted to new ships well into the 1990s, I imagine that there's still plenty of them out there in maritime use to justify keeping the supply chains going.

 

[cjmillsnun]

The Royal Navy still has quite widespread use of the Valenta, I believe, unless they have done a lot of re-engineing. Our nuclear deterrent even relies on a pair of 12RP200s per sub, and the attack subs have a pair of 16RP200s. Since they were still being fitted to new ships well into the 1990s, I imagine that there's still plenty of them out there in maritime use to justify keeping the supply chains going.

The only Vals left in the navy are in the Type 23 Frigates and in the Trafalgar class subs.

The nuclear deterrent has never relied on Valenta engines. There are none in the Vanguard class subs.

 

[Murph]

The only Vals left in the navy are in the Type 23 Frigates and in the Trafalgar class subs.

The nuclear deterrent has never relied on Valenta engines. There are none in the Vanguard class subs.

According to http://www.paxmanhistory.org.uk/paxsubs.htm, the Vanguard has a pair of 12RPA200SZ. The Sandown class minehunter had 6RP200s as-built.

 

[Hyphen]

According to http://www.paxmanhistory.org.uk/paxsubs.htm, the Vanguard has a pair of 12RPA200SZ. The Sandown class minehunter had 6RP200s as-built.

Really silly question perhaps (and sorry for going OT), but what happens to the exhaust fumes when you run a diesel engine on a submarine? Do you just get a bubbling on the surface?

Does the internal combustion process not suck all the oxygen out of the sub?

 

[dgl]

IIRC The diesel engine is only used when the top is above the surface (doesn't need to be the whole sub) and then rechargeable batteries are used when under the surface.


Edit: it is just used as a backup generator in the trident subs, a PWR provides the main power.

 

[WatcherZero]

MAN now own Paxman and offer OEM parts globally. I don't believe there are any MAN truck engine components that would be used in a loco engine.

http://www.mandieselturbo.co.uk/0000497/Products/Paxman.htmlhttp://

According to the source code that webpage may have been written as far back as 1999, which considering they were bought in 2000 kinda fits. Its written in Xhtml 1.0 with an obsolete weblink.

 

[Murph]

IIRC The diesel engine is only used when the top is above the surface (doesn't need to be the whole sub) and then rechargeable batteries are used when under the surface.


Edit: it is just used as a backup generator in the trident subs, a PWR provides the main power.

Yup, that's correct. The modern nuclear-powered subs use the reactor to generate steam for a turbine attached to a generator as their primary power. The diesels are auxiliary engines used on the surface, and are capable of fully powering the sub (maybe at reduced speed) if there's a problem with the reactor.

Diesel-electric subs use batteries underwater, diesels on the surface. They have a relatively limited maximum underwater range/duration. Nuclear-powered subs have effectively unlimited underwater endurance, with the limit being more defined by food stores. A very old innovation for the diesel subs is a snorkel for the diesels, allowing them to run while just below the surface with just a pipe showing above.