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The Railway:First Great Western Series 2

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I much preferred it to the extended scenes of various crowds with various situations that most of the previous TOC series have focussed on. It struck just the right balance between being informative without being so technical that it was over the heads of non-industry viewers. I guess (from that point of view only!) Dawlish was something of a godsend.

Excellent so far, hope it continues in the same vein.
 
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Regarding the tube strike - why weren't people simply getting on tfl buses from Ealing Broadway into London?

Because there's no TfL buses direct to central London ?

The 207/607 could have got them to White City - but how many would know that ?
 

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But they couldn't get on the train. I'd rather be moving than wait god knows how long.

As for the bus question you are right but most commuters must have some sort of travel app on their phone these days.
 

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Casting my mind back to the flooding, one woman was demanding to know why "British Rail" were not doing more to publicise the disruption!

The cave she lived in was obviously a dry one!
 

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One oddity (to me) was when they were covering flooding in the Thames Valley. Conventional signalling was out of action and reference was made to reverting to older methods of signalling and a driver was then shown handling a token.

But surely tokens aren't used in such emergencies? (Was it a token for the Maidenhead - Marlow branch?)

If conventional signalling was out of use/ unreliable wouldn't drivers be "talked past" signals or issued with written instructions, rather than using tokens?
 

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One oddity (to me) was when they were covering flooding in the Thames Valley. Conventional signalling was out of action and reference was made to reverting to older methods of signalling and a driver was then shown handling a token.



But surely tokens aren't used in such emergencies? (Was it a token for the Maidenhead - Marlow branch?)



If conventional signalling was out of use/ unreliable wouldn't drivers be "talked past" signals or issued with written instructions, rather than using tokens?


Yes that was an error on the part of the program makers. The token and token hut shown was for the Marlow branch line, its normal method of operation.

"Extended Amended Block Working" was in operation at that time between Twyford & Maidenhead, due to the flooding, which is perhaps what the narrator was referring to (or should have been).
 

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Yes, it was Maidenhead station. The token that was handed over was for the branch.
 
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Now that we can see they were filming before and after when the sea wall at Dawlish got 'washed away', I've suddenly realised that they obviously took away the wall themselves to make good television! It's obvious isn't it?

The things they'll do for the ratings...!
 

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Now that we can see they were filming before and after when the sea wall at Dawlish got 'washed away', I've suddenly realised that they obviously took away the wall themselves to make good television! It's obvious isn't it?

The things they'll do for the ratings...!

Ah thats a good point, I never thought of that! who is the production company?
 

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Organising the floods was quite impressive for any production company though!

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Cardiff Central packed to the gunnels with Rugby fans, how they manage to keep their cool I'll never know but I commend them
 

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Well done to FGW for putting in a tanking point at Taunton.

It's lucky that there weren't tanks that needed emptying as well !
 

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Yes, if you missed it, you can catch each episode the following day (Friday) on Channel 5+24. On Freesat it is channel 133 (132 in some areas), Sky 175, Virgin 152 and on Freeview CH 55.

I don't think they should be serving people, who have obviously had too much alcohol, yet more drink on the trains.
 
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Yes, if you missed it, you can catch each episode the following day (Friday) on Channel 5+24. On Freesat it is channel 133 (132 in some areas), Sky 175, Virgin 152 and on Freeview CH 55.

I don't think they should be serving people, who have obviously had too much alcohol, yet more drink on the trains.

It didn't seem apparent to me that those on board were particularly rowdy. Infact the guard found them more subdued than expected.
 

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I was under the impression that it was an offence to serve alcohol to somebody who was already drunk?
 

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I was under the impression that it was an offence to serve alcohol to somebody who was already drunk?

I believe so. However, trains aren't licensed in the same way are they? So I wonder if there's any exception in terms of the law?
 

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A review here:

Somebody please explain this, because it makes no sense: an off-peak rail ticket from Bristol to London costs more than a one-way flight on a budget airline to half the capitals in Europe. It’s cheaper to go to Prague than Paddington.

And while the air operators take excessive measures to ensure safety, even making forced landings if a boozy passenger gets too rowdy, the train companies are not so much blasé as reckless.

Anyone who has been stuck on a train after a football match knows that the station staff will let pretty much anyone stagger on, however drunk — then serve them alcohol at the buffet.

At busy times, it isn’t unusual for commuters to find themselves, not just standing up but kettled into the gangways like lemmings, while hurtling at 125mph along infrastructure so ancient that parts of it date back to the Victorian era.

We don’t complain, because we’re British. We’ll have a mutter, but there is no outpouring of rage at this national disgrace.

And the most shocking thing is that we must keep paying a fortune to be herded, delayed, made to stand and deprived of information, before we end up at Swindon in a queue for a ‘replacement bus service’ in the pouring rain two hours later.

There’s a ripsnorting documentary to be made about the miserable state of British railways, and The Railway: First Great Western (C5) did everything possible not to be that documentary.

Instead, the film-makers treated the railway staff as national heroes, somewhere between special forces and the fourth emergency service. They were keeping the country moving, against impossible odds, with saintly dedication.

No single Great Western employee is to blame for the misery of countless millions of travellers every year, it’s true — not even the person responsible for the ham sandwiches.

But if it’s heroes you want, look to the lifeboat crews and the mountain rescue teams —not the owner of that indifferent voice on the Tannoy who announces that the train from Swansea will be an hour late because the driver’s on his lunch break.

Last week’s episode was much better, because the crews were battling to cope with appalling weather that was tearing their railway apart. The dogged response of the engineers after a storm washed away part of the track at Dawlish in Devon was admirable. It is astonishing that normal service was resumed so quickly.

But normal rail service isn’t very impressive, especially compared to the outstanding train networks in Japan, France and the U.S. This programme should have been questioning why chaos is commonplace on our railways... and why we put up with it so meekly.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...STEVENS-reviews-night-s-TV.html#ixzz3Lfy7ADa8
 

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Gosh, a why oh why piece in the Daily Hate Mail, complete with a crack about ham sandwiches, copyright every 1970s comedian (thought that joke had died with British Rail, but apparently not). And written by someone who has clearly never tried to make use of French regional train services, as opposed to TGVs, and as for the outstanding rail network in the US, does anyone know which part of the US this is supposed to be in?
 

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My parents just came back from another trip to Sweden by train and, like before, they suffered delays (not much, but enough that some of their connections were touch and go). The grass most definitely isn't greener (and that's before you even consider the fact that in France, Belgium, Germany etc you may well have trains running a lot less frequently).

I assume the writer of the above 'review' is a FGW user and has a particular axe to grind. So nothing to see here, move on, etc.
 

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Well, I wonder who kicked Mr Stephens of the Daily Mail out of First Class?
 

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Even by the standards of the Mail that is a pretty dreadful piece of journalism.
 

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Even by the standards of the Mail that is a pretty dreadful piece of journalism.

I suppose I should be upset. Somebody in a profession that is held in such high esteem as journalism, writing in a paper that is such a bastion of truth and free speech as the Daily Mail, thinks my colleagues and I are useless cnuts.

Oh my, how will we sleep nights? :roll:
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I assume the writer of the above 'review' is a FGW user and has a particular axe to grind. So nothing to see here, move on, etc.

Looking at his bio, he worked on the Western Daily Press in Bristol, so that seems a reasonable assumption. (I love the internet, it makes stalking people so much easier!)
 

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Do some people on the railway see themselves as the 4th emergency service?
 

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I suppose I should be upset. Somebody in a profession that is held in such high esteem as journalism, writing in a paper that is such a bastion of truth and free speech as the Daily Mail, thinks my colleagues and I are useless cnuts.

Oh my, how will we sleep nights? :roll:
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Looking at his bio, he worked on the Western Daily Press in Bristol, so that seems a reasonable assumption. (I love the internet, it makes stalking people so much easier!)
You must be pleased with the programme though.as it did show you all to be such paragons of virtue.:D
If I were a FGW commercial manager, I would be less pleased with the programme, as potential new customers could think they were taking a risk travelling with such clientele as were displayed.
 

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I haven't seen the latest series. I was asked if they could follow me (Jody was unavailable and I was the obvious next choice!), but I declined, as it would play havoc with my Witness Protection programme!
 
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