East Coast Carlisle diverts - 225 sets

[Class 92]

Does anyone know which East Coast services which are diverted via Carlisle on October 18th will be 91+DVTs so they will be dragged by a class 67?

 

[craig87034]

Does anyone know which East Coast services which are diverted via Carlisle on October 18th will be 91+DVTs so they will be dragged by a class 67?

AFAIA


Saturdays 4th,11th & 18th October

1E06 0650 Glasgow Central-London Kings Cross
1S13 1100 Kings Cross-Edinburgh
1E27 1839 Edinburgh-Newcastle

Sundays 5th,12th and 19th October

1S21 1415 Kings X-Glasgow Central

 

[route:oxford]

Is it likely that this route will ever be electrified?

 

[najaB]

Is it likely that this route will ever be electrified?

'Ever' is a long time, so yes it'll probably get done. In the near future, don't hold your breath.

 

[Aictos]

AFAIA


Saturdays 4th,11th & 18th October

1E06 0650 Glasgow Central-London Kings Cross
1S13 1100 Kings Cross-Edinburgh
1E27 1839 Edinburgh-Newcastle

Sundays 5th,12th and 19th October

1S21 1415 Kings X-Glasgow Central

No diverted HSTs then? As one year if I recall they had both 91s being dragged and HSTs working the diversion.

 

[Darandio]

No diverted HSTs then? As one year if I recall they had both 91s being dragged and HSTs working the diversion.

I'd imagine so as there usually is. That response above seems solely for the original question about which services were drags.

 

[87019Chris]

Will the diverts call at Carlisle? Might be a reason to venture up there on a Saturday
Cheers

 

[cf111]

Will the diverts call at Carlisle? Might be a reason to venture up there on a Saturday
Cheers

On the 18th October:

1E06 - 0650 Glasgow Central (GLC) -London King's Cross (KGX) arr. Carlisle (CAR) 0925, dep. CAR 0945

1S13 - 1100 KGX-Edinburgh (EDB) arr. CAR 1547, dep. CAR 1556

1E27 - 1839 EDB-Newcastle (NCL), arr. CAR 2017, dep. CAR 2039

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

On the 18th October:
1E06 - 0650 Glasgow Central (GLC) -London King's Cross (KGX) arr. Carlisle (CAR) 0925, dep. CAR 0945

That one runs Glasgow-Carstairs-Edinburgh and then comes back to Carstairs on the diversion...

 

[cf111]

That one runs Glasgow-Carstairs-Edinburgh and then comes back to Carstairs on the diversion...

I think that's the quickest way to access the WCML from Edinburgh.

 

[Jonny]

I think that's the quickest way to access the WCML from Edinburgh.

It is, but would it not have been easier to start later from Glasgow and "jump" Edinburgh (i.e go straight Glasgow-Carstairs-Carlisle) with passengers advised to use/booked on connecting scheduled WCML services?
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'Ever' is a long time, so yes it'll probably get done. In the near future, don't hold your breath.

Network Rail seems to have an all-or-nothing view (based on various published documents) so I think it would take a while. It could be done as a Newcastle to Metrocentre stage with a minor expansion of Metrocentre station (there would be a small 'land take' but this would merely be road verges etc.) which might also enable an easing of the curves and maybe a couple of minutes off the journey time as well as the electrification part enabling the Metrocentre/Morpeth and Metrocentre/Newcastle diagrams to be operated by EMUs.

 

[Mag_seven]

All of the diverts pick up and set down at Carlisle for connection opportunities.

 

[MCR247]

It is, but would it not have been easier to start later from Glasgow and "jump" Edinburgh (i.e go straight Glasgow-Carstairs-Carlisle) with passengers advised to use/booked on connecting scheduled WCML services?
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Because Glasgow passengers would just use the WCML anyway and the main reason for the diverts is for Edinburgh passengers to get to ECML stations?

 

[yorkie]

No diverted HSTs then? As one year if I recall they had both 91s being dragged and HSTs working the diversion.

The question was for 91s. The rest are all booked to be HSTs.
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Will the diverts call at Carlisle? Might be a reason to venture up there on a Saturday
Cheers

Yes, as far as I know they all do.
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It is, but would it not have been easier to start later from Glasgow and "jump" Edinburgh (i.e go straight Glasgow-Carstairs-Carlisle) with passengers advised to use/booked on connecting scheduled WCML services?

Easier? For who? The railway supposedly exists, and subsidised to, provide a convenient service for customers

 

[43167]

No diverted HSTs then? As one year if I recall they had both 91s being dragged and HSTs working the diversion.

There will be HST's and this is the 3rd year of them dragging services.

 

[87019Chris]

The question was for 91s. The rest are all booked to be HSTs.

So can we not derail the thread just once and find the hst diagrams too please

 

[Blindtraveler]

Think I may actually be able to do one of the drags this time!

 

[Mark62]

This sounds good. I will be in Hexham for at least one of those weekends. Will I be able to travel between Newcastle and Carlise on these trains. Thanks for the info

 

[Statto]

Hmmm 110 minutes to get from Carlisle to Newcastle when the stopper timed at 75mph max takes 80 minutes.

 

[37038]

Any drags in the pipeline at the moment? Perhaps via Stillington, Askern or the GN&GE?

Thanks

 

[43094]

After this coming Sunday, there's no more booked drags this year...