Post Qual Drivers

[Sir Topham Hat]

How long is it after passing out before a post qual driver can apply for other TOCS? I was sure it was 2 years but have just read a job description and it doesn't specify a timescale at all.

 

[KT530]

How long is it after passing out before a post qual driver can apply for other TOCS? I was sure it was 2 years but have just read a job description and it doesn't specify a timescale at all.

The last XC vacancies advertised a couple of weeks ago stated 18 months

 

[Aivilo]

Most TOCS want three years or class that as becoming post qualified

 

[Albatross]

There's at least two at Picc that I can think of right off the top of my head that are working their notice period now for moves to other companies that haven't done two years here.

One to TPE and one to freight

 

[TDK]

How long is it after passing out before a post qual driver can apply for other TOCS? I was sure it was 2 years but have just read a job description and it doesn't specify a timescale at all.

There isn't a time, a PQ driver has a lesser chance of getting a position than a driver that is not PQ, you need to read you contract on times as some companies will say you have to pay back the training costs if you leave within a certain time period.

 

[Aivilo]

There isn't a time, a PQ driver has a lesser chance of getting a position than a driver that is not PQ, you need to read you contract on times as some companies will say you have to pay back the training costs if you leave within a certain time period.

Which is not enforceable by law

 

[TDK]

Which is not enforceable by law

It isn't but will look crap on your reference when you decide to leave.

 

[WCMLaddict]

I think that currently most employers would refrain or refuse giving references rather than give a negative one. By giving a negative one you're opening a new can of worms ...

 

[Aivilo]

It isn't but will look crap on your reference when you decide to leave.

Not at all, circumstances can change in a heart beat.

References only say x worked here from date a to date b and not much else, to many loops holes and comebacks

 

[red2005]

I think that currently most employers would refrain or refuse giving references rather than give a negative one. By giving a negative one you're opening a new can of worms ...

there's a difference between a negative reference and an honest one! that's what makes me laugh when people come out with all this " oh they are not allowed to give you a bad reference" lol they can do what they want!

 

[WCMLaddict]

You should laugh all you can, it's healthy after all.

That doesn't change the fact that around half of references requests I receive back are standard letters that say pretty much: we can confirm that named person have worked for our company but because of our policies we will not give you any more details about their employment record.

Also the company I work for has a policy to that effect and believe me that it isn't in place because we can't be arsed to get them properly done or because of them all being negative.

 

[TDK]

You should laugh all you can, it's healthy after all.

That doesn't change the fact that around half of references requests I receive back are standard letters that say pretty much: we can confirm that named person have worked for our company but because of our policies we will not give you any more details about their employment record.

Also the company I work for has a policy to that effect and believe me that it isn't in place because we can't be arsed to get them properly done or because of them all being negative.

When a qualified driver wants to move from one company to another it is not only a reference but an ATOC form needs to be completed regarding the drivers competence and it will also have the drivers start date driving on their own. safety record and attendance record so it isn't rocket science for a manager to work it out. I would have certainly contacted the driver and their manager to ascertain the reason for wanting to move especially if the company I was representing had a higher salary, had a major difference in traction and routes or better terms and conditions. Is the company you work for or the position you are in directly associated with recruiting drivers? To add I would also have called the drivers current line manager to get an off the record idea of what I would be taking on!
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Most TOCS want three years or class that as becoming post qualified

Post qualified is all about the assessment criteria of the individual, a new driver will have a different assessment format than a driver with over 2 years experience, many companies do not give full pay until PQ is completed (I totally disagree with this and voted against it 10 years ago) If a driver has an operational incident their PQ period can be extended for up to another 2 years if the incident is a serious one.