Red Pen 2014 - your new haulages

[Keith Jarrett]

Here’s a round-up from March’s haulage log.
While there has not been too many winners this month apart from S-7s on the Circle line, I seemed to have had a lot of luck falling into 377s still required for 10 miles bagging about 3/4 of those still on the list. Thankfully there are only 13 left to go (until the 3777s arrive) and the 377/6s join the 377/2s as sub-classes cleared for 10 miles. 465s and 466s seem more difficult but then I tend not to look at South Eastern in the peak. 319363 joins that elite band of units having crawled over the 2,000 miles mark. How many more will I get over 2,000 before the 319s venture away from Thameslink? Finally, a spare few hours on the 31st saw me stray onto the Great Northern and I was suitably rewarded with some 313s and rounded off with a brand new 365 (memo to self, must go north of the Circle line more often, there’s still a lot I need …)

3rd March 2014
377417 Cleared for 10 miles

4th March 2014
375622 New
376010 Cleared for 10 miles
377115 Cleared for 10 miles
377135 Cleared for 10 miles
377140 Cleared for 10 miles
377143 Cleared for 10 miles
377451 Cleared for 10 miles
377468 Cleared for 10 miles
465050 Cleared for 10 miles

5th March 2014
S-7 21406 New

6th March 2014
S-7 21405 New
S-7 21409 New

7th March 2014
S-7 21411 New
S-7 21412 New

9th March 2014
8008 Cleared for 10 miles
S-7 21389 New
444031 New
450032 Cleared for 10 miles
450038 Cleared for 10 miles
450570 Cleared for 10 miles

10th March 2014
377108 Cleared for 10 miles
377124 Cleared for 10 miles
377411 Cleared for 10 miles

11th March 2014
375616 New
376028 Cleared for 10 miles
377104 Cleared for 10 miles
377139 Cleared for 10 miles
377427 Cleared for 10 miles
377609 Cleared for 10 miles
465022 Cleared for 10 miles

12th March 2014
377138 Cleared for 10 miles
377406 Cleared for 10 miles
377428 Cleared for 10 miles
377439 Cleared for 10 miles

14th March 2014
S-7 21403 New
S-7 21404 Cleared for 1 mile
377463 Cleared for 10 miles

16th March 2014
444007 New
444035 Cleared for 10 miles
444036 Cleared for 10 miles
450001 Cleared for 10 miles
450034 Cleared for 10 miles
450037 Cleared for 10 miles
450543 First time as 450/5
450553 Cleared for 10 miles

17th March 2014
377136 Cleared for 10 miles
377404 Cleared for 10 miles
377415 Cleared for 10 miles

18th March 2014
377422 Cleared for 10 miles
377457 Cleared for 10 miles
377460 Cleared for 10 miles
377608 Cleared for 10 miles

19th March 2014
377160 Cleared for 10 miles
377475 Cleared for 10 miles

20th March 2014
377603 Cleared for 10 miles

24th March 2014
377158 Cleared for 10 miles
377401 Cleared for 10 miles
377437 Cleared for 10 miles

25th March 2014
377407 Cleared for 10 miles
377465 Cleared for 10 miles
377624 Cleared for 10 miles

26th March 2014
465032 Cleared for 10 miles

27th March 2014
319363 Cleared for 2,000 miles

28th March 2014
S-7 21375 New
S-7 21376 New
377472 Cleared for 10 miles
466024 Cleared for 10 miles

31st March 2014
313030 Cleared for 10 miles
313032 Cleared for 10 miles
313036 Cleared for 10 miles
313043 Cleared for 10 miles
313047 Cleared for 10 miles
313052 Cleared for 10 miles
313058 Cleared for 10 miles
365537 New

Now what will April bring? A frew trips well away from The Smoke are already in the planning stages so that should break the almost continuous diet of 3rd rail emus.

 

[samuelmorris]

Impressive work, I'm going to add my recent journeys in tonight (a lot to work on!) - I can only imagine how long it will take to get a unit past the 2000 mile barrier, as my daily commute typically consists of a maximum journey length of barely over 10 miles on an individual unit - and always with a unit type that has a large fleet...

 

[Techniquest]

I've not any units even at 1,000 yet although 20 miles off clearing 175116 for it. But then I have to commute by bus! Got one of those on or very near 7,000 now in just over 2 years! Most of the other regular buses I use are high mileage too, only 4 left to clear for the magical thou!

Hoping April is a good month for me, although I doubt it as I have a lot of money to pay back

 

[samuelmorris]

Phew, left this way too long - mileage will have to do for tonight, I'll deal with what's red and black pen later!

4th February:
321339 cleared for 10 miles
96TS set 40 (96479) cleared for 10 miles

5th February:
321341 cleared for 20 miles straight
375909 cleared for 1 mile (First entry for class)

6th February:
357007 cleared for 50 miles (New record for class)
357208 cleared for 10 miles

7th February:
185149 cleared for 60 miles straight (First entry for class)
390125 cleared for 180 miles straight (First entry for class)
09TS set 24 (11047/11048) cleared for <1 mile

10th February:
91115 cleared for 180 miles strtaight
S7 set 39 (21377/21378) cleared for 1 mile

11th February:
357225 cleared for 50 miles
96TS set 6 (96412) cleared for 10 miles
96TS set 52 (96503) cleared for 10 miles

12th February:
321427 cleared for 20 miles straight
357039 cleared for 10 miles
D78TS 7119 cleared for 1 mile

13th February:
357023 cleared for 10 miles
465242 cleared for 1 mile
92TS pair 260 cleared for <1 mile
92TS pair 212 cleared for <1 mile
95TS unit 51612 cleared for <1 mile

14th February:
357025 cleared for 50 miles
465182 cleared for 1 mile
DLR unit 153 cleared for 1 mile

17th February:
92TS pair 245 cleared for 1 mile
S7 set 26 (21351/21352) cleared for 10 miles
DLR unit 36 cleared for 1 mile
DLR unit 127 cleared for 1 mile
DLR unit 131 cleared for <1 mile
DLR unit 152 cleared for 1 mile

18th February:
357209 cleared for 10 miles
96TS set 3 (96405) cleared for 10 miles
96TS set 21 (96441) cleared for 1 mile

19th February:
321362 cleared for 50 miles (New record for class)
455739 cleared for 1 mile
455808 cleared for 1 mile
455820 cleared for 1 mile
S7 set 2 (21303/21304) cleared for <1 mile

20th February:
321318 cleared for 10 miles
321354 cleared for 10 miles

21st February:
165128 cleared for 1 mile (First entry for class)
166206 cleared for 10 miles (First entry for class)
221119 cleared for 10 miles
315828 cleared for 10 miles
321330 cleared for 20 miles straight
444032 cleared for 40 miles straight (New record for class)
450004 cleared for 20 miles straight
96TS set 38 (96475) cleared for 10 miles

22nd February:
360111 cleared for 10 miles
375713 cleared for 70 miles straight (New record for class)
395006 cleared for 100 miles straight (New record for class)
DLR unit 40 cleared for <1 mile
DLR unit 74 cleared for <1 mile

24th February:
315811 cleared for 10 miles
377610 cleared for 1 mile
450035 cleared for 20 miles straight
450081 cleared for 20 miles straight
455831 cleared for 1 mile
455852 cleared for 1 mile

25th February:
96TS set 44 (96487) cleared for 10 miles

26th February:
315851 cleared for 10 miles
D78 7063 cleared for 1 mile
NBFL 50 cleared for 1 mile

27th February:
357022 cleared for 50 miles
96TS set 28 (96455) cleared for 10 miles

28th February:
321346 cleared for 10 miles
357042 cleared for 50 miles
465162 cleared for 1 mile
DLR unit 109 cleared for 1 mile

1st March:
180105 cleared for 190 miles straight (New record for class)
321327 cleared for 20 miles straight
S8 set 2 (21003/21004) cleared for 1 mile

3rd March:
360114 cleared for 20 miles straight
43206 cleared for 180 miles straight
43307 cleared for 300 miles (New record for class)
S7 set 54 (21407/21408) cleared for 1 mile

5th March:
321353 cleared for 20 miles straight
S7 set 16 (21331/21332) cleared for 10 miles

6th March:
357221 cleared for 10 miles
96TS set 30 (96459) cleared for 10 miles
95TS unit 51625 cleared for <1 mile

7th March:
96TS set 45 (96489) cleared for 10 miles

10th March: 321345 cleared for 10 miles

12th March:
D78TS 7064 cleared for 1 mile
360110 cleared for 20 miles straight

13th March:
D78TS 7068 cleared for <1 mile
377160 cleared for 1 mile
377458 cleared for 1 mile
360108 cleared for 20 miles straight

14th March:
95TS unit 724 cleared for <1 mile
95TS unit 551 cleared for <1 mile

17th March:
357213 cleared for 10 miles
96TS set 21 (unit 96441) cleared for 10 miles

24th March:
321310 cleared for 20 miles straight
321320 cleared for 10 miles
450568 cleared for 10 miles
455864 cleared for 10 miles
W&C 92TS unit 05 cleared for 1 mile

26th March: S7 set 19 (21337/21338) cleared for 10 miles

27th March:
319459 cleared for 1 mile
357205 cleared for 50 miles
95TS unit 603 cleared for <1 mile
95TS unit 618 cleared for <1 mile
S8 set 28 (21055/21056) cleared for <1 mile
S8 set 57 (21113/21114) cleared for <1 mile

28th March:
377134 cleared for 1 mile
455828 cleared for 1 mile
09TS set 31 cleared for <1 mile
09TS set 32 cleared for 1 mile

31st March:
321358 cleared for 10 miles
96TS set 4 (96407) cleared for 10 miles
96TS set 34 (96467) cleared for 10 miles

1st April:
321446 cleared for 20 miles straight
450080 cleared for 20 miles straight
450089 cleared for 1 mile
450125 cleared for 10 miles
W&C 92TS unit 07 cleared for 1 mile

 

[12CSVT]

March winners

Diesel locos - D3236, 66007, 66021, 66106, 66250

Kettles - 1638 (GWR 1600 class), 6435 (GWR 6400 class)

DMU - 158713
This means I have travelled on all DMUs currently in passenger service with the National Rail TOCs.

EMU - 350407, 350408, 377615, 377624, 377625

UNderground 'S' stock - 21401+21402, 21403+21404, 21409+21410, 21411+21412, 21413+21414

 

[TEW]

Another day out in London yesterday.

2nd April
90002
171724
171728
321318
321320
321329
321344
321345
321428
321438
321444
321446
377105
377118
377132
377160
377603
465049
466019
466041

Total (2nd April):20
Total(YTD):265

Cleared the 377/6s, and now down to just 3 377s overall.

 

[D841 Roebuck]

A trip to the Ribble Steam Railway's Diesel Gala produced the following:
D2595 (Class 05)
Sentinels 10165 and 10282 (Energy and Enterprise)
Thomas Hill 160V (Stanlow #4)
79960 (Wagon und Maschinebau railcar)
plus 390021 on the way and Tram3010 coming home.

A fine day out at a very friendly line. I'll be returning at some point for a spin on their steamers!

 

[Techniquest]

DMU - 158713
This means I have travelled on all DMUs currently in passenger service with the National Rail TOCs.

Congratulations! How long did it take to achieve the rather large task? I've got 357 DMUs to get yet, slowly getting there and if I can get that down to less than 300 remaining before the year ends I'll be very happy. The monumentally huge task of getting 1,366 EMUs is going to take a long time!

Looks like a lot of people have been busy this month, fair play!

 

[D841 Roebuck]

Just done a quick count and 470 DMUs still required. (Not even going to attempt counting the EMUs).

As for time taken - 142001 was first sampled in October 1985!

 

[12CSVT]

Congratulations! How long did it take to achieve the rather large task? I've got 357 DMUs to get yet, slowly getting there and if I can get that down to less than 300 remaining before the year ends I'll be very happy. The monumentally huge task of getting 1,366 EMUs is going to take a long time!

Looks like a lot of people have been busy this month, fair play!

Started recording what units I've travelled on in 1988, although it wasn't until about 2006 or 2007 that I set about 'red penning' units I hadn't previously travelled on. There are still some first generation DMUs in preservation (mainly ones that haven't worked for donkeys years) , and class 141 units in Iran that I haven't had (although I'm in no hurry to go to Iran just to 'red pen' some bouncy buses ! ).

 

[Genocide]

Started recording what units I've travelled on in 1988, although it wasn't until about 2006 or 2007 that I set about 'red penning' units I hadn't previously travelled on. There are still some first generation DMUs in preservation (mainly ones that haven't worked for donkeys years) , and class 141 units in Iran that I haven't had (although I'm in no hurry to go to Iran just to 'red pen' some bouncy buses ! ).

That's a fair degree of desperation.

I've been stored serviceable for quite a few years now (setting up a business) but now I've got a bit of time I'm back out a bit and I've realised that I only need two 142's - missed 059 though. I'm not quite sure how that happened because I've never chased them particularly.

I did, however, have all the 141's. Being at Leeds University 1987-1990 made this rather easy for me!

 

[noddy1878]

Update from my southern day save and couple of days in London
March 25th
171729
171728
377108
377439
377163
377444
313204
313207
377435
313206
377142
313211
313212
442407
442401
377470
377155

March 26th
458531
458534
315850
315848
315807
315805
315847
315819
315837
315815 (Now only 4 315s and took the best part of the afternoon to try and get)
321440
321364
321427

Tube
53623
51605
51606
51563
51564
51714
53588
51508
51702
11021
11022
21353
21354
96032
96299
96003
96055
96068
21044
21043
96440
96117
96472
96005
96494
96085
96046
96035
96514
96071
96022
96075
96116
96069
96100
96113
96038
51599
51598

March 27th
166214
360205
332001
332004 (Need three 332s now after spending hours waiting to see what would turn up at heathrow!)
319460

Tube
7116
8101
401
7051
138
449
21372
21371
21330
21329
7073
7123
21416
21415
8094
7009
8032
21309
21310
7075
8034
21410
21409
21347
21348
7048
22058
22057
21395
21396

This takes my red pens to 262 for the year so far. And I have also totted up my required DMUs (324) and EMUs (935). This includes the expected 350/3s, 377/7s and 458/5s.

 

[samuelmorris]

To those of you that have made a significant dent in rolling stock fleets that are outside your local area - how many full days have you spent trying to track them down? Genuinely curious about how much people are putting to attain these impressive goals.

Despite working in London and living fairly near, because I very rarely travel 'for the sake of it' I rely on my commute / customer visits at work (which are fortunately fairly frequent) for my hauls. I think I've done fairly well under the circumstances, but even attaining all the London rolling stock fleets would be a monumental task, and it doesn't help that I only started red penning a year or so ago. For example, I only recall being on one or possibly two 317s, many years ago, so I've no idea which they were. I've never been on a 379, and have only ever been on one 458!
Generally I stand the most chance with the c2c fleet (already complete, in fact) as it's my typical daily commute, the Greater Anglia eastern EMU fleet (my alternate commute and local line) and the three main south London TOCs, as that's where our customer base really is. The enormity of those three fleets though, coupled with the fact I don't use them daily, means I might still be waiting a while

 

[TEW]

I live in Guildford and tracking down the London fleets is a long process. I've done countless Travelcards but I still have a long way to go to clear them all. I've lived in Guildford for 3 years now and I only need 3 units for my local TOC, SWT.

 

[theblackwatch]

TEW is correct - it's a long process, even if, when you get down to your last few, you have a friend with access to a machine. Bearing in mind the 156s have been around since the late 1980s, there's still one that I've yet to have...

Having said that, sometimes you can walk into your last member of a particular type - a year or so I was up in the Glasgow area, caught a train to Springburn and found my last 320 sat there. I know a few people who have cleared their operational multiple units (although they no doubt need a few with the new stuff that's recently appeared).

This year has been quite successful for me unit-wise. I've scored:
5 x 165 (I find Chiltern's very difficult, 5 out of 8 in one day was very good)
1 x 321 (my last one)
3 x 350 (all new TPE ones)
4 x 375 (down to 2)
18 x 377 (including my last /2 and /5 examples, now only need new /6 and /7 ones)
2 x 390 (for 'extending')
1 x 450 (my last one)
1 x 455 (for new motor coach, converted from 210 car - prior to that the 455s were cleared)

 

[noddy1878]

I have no idea off the top of my head how many days (I could go and work it out) I have spent outside my local area trying to track down units to clear. I do it whenever I can and funds allow. I'm fortunate that I have a friend who works for a TOC and he invites me along whenever our time off coincides. I have been having a go since May 2010. I had stopped for about 15 years so everything was pretty much new when i returned to the game.

All I do know is that once I had finished off FGW land (well part from the Thames units) my days out are fewer as it costs more to get further afield. I had done countless Devon Day Rangers to knock off all the FGW HSTs, 143s, 150s, 153s and XC HSTs and 220/221s.

 

[bb21]

theblackwatch is right about walking into your last unit unknowingly sometimes.

I only recently crossed off all 220's, after netting the remaining two in quick succession within about a week. I had been chasing after them to no avail for a good few months prior. 220007 turned up unexpectedly when I waited at Wolves to do a diversion one evening late last month, and 220006 the week after on the very same journey in reverse.

At last count, I have 331 operational DMUs remaining, and I have only been recording since 2011.

The TOPS request thread can be useful when chasing after the last one or two units for a class. I do not particularly like it when people request the diagrams for loads of units, as it almost feels like cheating, but given the difficulty in tracking down the very last units, it makes the hobby a lot more accessible.

I netted 458030 that way.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

theblackwatch is right about walking into your last unit unknowingly sometimes.

My best "drop on" occasion was about 10 years ago on the Paris Metro; I had three lines each with a single unit left to bash - and dropped on them consecutively changing from one line to the other, clearing the three in the space of just ¾ hour...!!

 

[noddy1878]

I walked into my final 220 in Chesterfield a few years ago when i wasn't looking for it. I was on a Derbyshire Wayfarer ticket and pretty much needed everything that was coming. I was avoiding the XC units as I had slowly knocked them off in the South West but when i arrived into Chesterfield on another service and saw it was my last one it would have been rude not to get back to Sheffield.

 

[Keith Jarrett]

To those of you that have made a significant dent in rolling stock fleets that are outside your local area - how many full days have you spent trying to track them down? Genuinely curious about how much people are putting to attain these impressive goals.

I tend to average about one trip a month outside my local commuting area chasing down red pens. So far this year, I have managed two long distance trips, both to South Wales where each time I have come away with several red pens or other notable entries in the haulage log. There's far more excursions in the pipeline the following outings already at various stages of planning for this year -
a day trip to West Yorkshire;
yet another South Wales foray where I also hope to indulge in a bit of potography;
a three day trip to Scotland where again I will doubtlesly be "distracted" by the camera;
a session dealing with Southern's 171s so that'll be Oxted line in the peak followed by a roam around Marsh-link;
a jaunt around Merseyside principally to target the 507s & 508s - this will likely be a two day trip;
at least one, if not more, visits to Manchester where the main target will be 142s; and
an excursion to Exeter to see if I can knock out my remaining Great Western 143s.

And more plans will doubtlessly crystalise as the year progresses - lready a second Scottish visit is being considered.

I have been at the haulage game for a long time - over 35 years - so I have amassed a lot in my time, locos, units, underground but still there's more to get, especially as I tend to have periods away, concentrating on other things such as photography. But even then, my requirements are still fairly extensive. The London Travelcard area still accounts for 79 outright required national rail units (Chiltern being the worst TOC) with only Paddiongton & Fenchurch Street completely clear, neither of which are part of the daily commute. Then add in another 50 TfL units - i.e. Tramlink, DLR and Underground - with the Central line by far the worst offender, there's still some pickings to be had within the Travelcard zones. Going outside the Travelcard zones, I am still after 267 assorted DMUs with Scotrail 156s and 158s being the worst offenders along with 123 EMUs with no less than 78 of those being Scottish!

I tend not to get out much on Saturdays (it's the only day that both myself & wife are off work) but I will often wander out on a Sunday afternoon once the chores are done. While time restricts me to staying within the Travelcard area, I tend to take a look at stuff that I normally do not encounter on the daily commute - so that means ignoring Southern, FCC and southeastern. Lately, I have been trying to deal with the remaining SWT 444s and 450s but once I have the upper hand there, my focus will move elsewhere. Areas that I have in my sights are London Overground and the Central Line.

I also have take into account my gold standard of a minimum of 10 miles for each passenger unit so once a unit has been red-penned, the next target is to get it up to gold standard. Several classes are already there, notably 319s, 455s & 456s and I am not far off with Southern 377s.

Anoher thing I log, but not to the extent of actively chasing down, is hits for the year - this applies only to ational rail . With a little over three months of 2014 gone, I am up to 580 already and targetting a bare minimum of 1,000 for the year (last year I reached 580 in early December!)

To sum up, there's plenty of miles in me yet but as the daily commute cannot carry on throwing up hits for ever even going for the ten mile gold standad, it will be Sunday rambles and long distance outings where I will be scoring either outright hits or the 10 mile "gold standard" entries in the haulage list.

 

[TheJRB]

It's been a while since I posted. Here's everything since the beginning of February:

8th February
222015
4464 Bittern
Peckett No. 2000
158773
158864
91108

1st March
319375
319368
319424
21409 (S7)
21410 (S7)
321366
321429
67 (B92)

5th March
375811
465184
465240
465041
465007

16th March
375912
376011
376009
465008
465246
466030
455854
455870
455849
455916
2536 (CR4000)
375707
465908

23rd March
375918

2nd April
171730
171726

6th April
158847
158788
158790
206 (NET)
208 (NET)
43054
43049

 

[samuelmorris]

Can someone explain to me (or direct me to a thread / PM as appropriate) how the account system works with railmiles?

 

[Techniquest]

As I'm on my phone, a thorough reply is not forthcoming yet. Particularly as I need to refer to my 2012/13/14 moves book at home for some of it (before 2012 the moves are scattered everywhere in diaries and notebooks)! Safe to say for now that samuelmorris' question has generated considerable interest for me...

Anyway, latest scores:

7th April 2014

156414
158794

Yes, that was all I scored on Monday...

 

[43167]

On my Anglia trip

Monday 7th Apr:
153335
156409
170205

Tuesday 8th Apr
153314
156412
156417
156418
170272
321310
321331
321448

Wednesday 9th Apr
170204
170206
170270
365516

 

[jnjkerbin]

Newest haulages from me:

378135
450037
455750
455917
375916
365529
317887
317664
377469
377434
377214
455804
375301 (first /3, 13 375s remaining)
319446
319452

 

[noddy1878]

Latest Red Pens,

67010 - Five 67s left now.
170505
168113
158835
390135
323207
323210
323222
390134
390136
3248 (Bakerloo)
3236 (Bakerloo)
21363 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21364 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21367 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21368 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21402 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21401 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21390 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21389 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21303 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21304 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21321 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21322 (Hammersmith/Circle)

Another reasonable day.

 

[Techniquest]

Latest Red Pens,

21363 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21364 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21367 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21368 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21402 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21401 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21390 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21389 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21303 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21304 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21321 (Hammersmith/Circle)
21322 (Hammersmith/Circle)

Another reasonable day.

You do realise those are all the same sets? Example 21363+21364 are a 4 and 3 car set coupled together, but to the best of my knowledge they don't work separately. Unless I've got something wrong of course...

I've run out of time to reply to samuelmorris' question today, I'll try again soon to reply. Work takes up a lot of time, as does the commuting and suffering colleagues who get on my nerves, then it's time to spend with 3 different people at once when I get home. Having to resort to a post-work coffee at 8pm just to keep going at the moment and staying up til gone 0100 just to manage even a bit of it. So I hope it's understandable that my presence is limited at the moment on the forum. Hate it being like that though as I don't get kept up to date enough with everything!

 

[Peter Mugridge]

You do realise those are all the same sets? Example 21363+21364 are a 4 and 3 car set coupled together, but to the best of my knowledge they don't work separately. Unless I've got something wrong of course...

Officially they're actually a single seven car unit not two half trains; they're numbered in the French fashion... Though I admit to not trusting TfL 100% over that; the way I show them is a compromise format with a slash line eg 21301/2.

 

[33056]

Currently near the end of a pretty exhaustive (and exhausting!) visit to Croatia and Bosnia with 25 locos to add, 18 of them on the same seven day railtour. We were hoping to hit 20 locos on the tour as the nice people in ŽFBH were quite happy to change locos where possible but their colleagues on ŽRS seem to think we like 661 278 and it looks as if we will be stuck with it until we get back into Croatia tomorrow; it is rather good though

 

[samuelmorris]

You do realise those are all the same sets? Example 21363+21364 are a 4 and 3 car set coupled together, but to the best of my knowledge they don't work separately. Unless I've got something wrong of course...

I've run out of time to reply to samuelmorris' question today, I'll try again soon to reply. Work takes up a lot of time, as does the commuting and suffering colleagues who get on my nerves, then it's time to spend with 3 different people at once when I get home. Having to resort to a post-work coffee at 8pm just to keep going at the moment and staying up til gone 0100 just to manage even a bit of it. So I hope it's understandable that my presence is limited at the moment on the forum. Hate it being like that though as I don't get kept up to date enough with everything!

Having worked a lot of overtime recently, and more to come soon (got an 0530 journey start in a couple of weeks I'm not looking forward to), I can understand that very well. No rush, I'm in no hurry