Brief problems across South East tonight?

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In tonight's Evening Standard it reports people were stuck in the lifts at Elephant 7 Castle tube station for an hour.

You wouldn't think there were any problems on National Rail, given the way the Evening Standard report was written.

Interestingly when I was at Kensington Olympia last night around 23.00, I saw an FCC train go through heading north. Would this be related to these problems or just a scheduled ECS?

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[user15681]

You wouldn't think there were any problems on National Rail, given the way the Evening Standard report was written.

Interestingly when I was at Kensington Olympia last night around 23.00, I saw an FCC train go through heading north. Would this be related to these problems or just a scheduled ECS?

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Scheduled ECS from Cricklewood depot to Hornsey depot.

 

[transmanche]

Interestingly when I was at Kensington Olympia last night around 23.00, I saw an FCC train go through heading north. Would this be related to these problems or just a scheduled ECS?

Scheduled ECS from Cricklewood depot to Hornsey depot.

Gosh, that really is a long way round! (But I guess there's no shorter electrified route.)

 

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Gosh, that really is a long way round! (But I guess there's no shorter electrified route.)

Until next summer that is.

 

[transmanche]

Until next summer that is.

Well yes. And I guess when Gospel Oak-Barking is electrified, they'll also do Carlton Road Junction to Junction Road Junction (which is a fantastic name!). So ECS services will be able to go that way, without having to reverse at St Pancras to use the Canal Tunnels.

 

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Thanks for that. So someone has to have route knowledge just to do ECS movements. I'm sure they will be glad when the changes are in place

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[RichardN]

Apparently a power surge affected the signalling on the Arun valley line and throught Gatwick airport this morning.

Power surges must be the new in-problem.

 

[Bedpan]

We've had lights dimming for a second or two several times over the last few weeks, is that caused by a power surge, as what actually happens would suggest a power dip - or maybe that's the result of circuit breakers operating somewhere. Nothing happened here at 10pm on Monday though, despite reports to the contrary on other parts of Herts.

 

[RichardN]

We've had lights dimming for a second or two several times over the last few weeks, is that caused by a power surge, as what actually happens would suggest a power dip - or maybe that's the result of circuit breakers operating somewhere. Nothing happened here at 10pm on Monday though, despite reports to the contrary on other parts of Herts.

These are the terms as I understand them.

Lights go bright, possibly followed by bang then darkness: Power surge.
Lights go dim: Brown out
Lights go out: Power cut

All of these can cause damage.

 

[Class377/5]

Well yes. And I guess when Gospel Oak-Barking is electrified, they'll also do Carlton Road Junction to Junction Road Junction (which is a fantastic name!). So ECS services will be able to go that way, without having to reverse at St Pancras to use the Canal Tunnels.

They wont ever use GOBLIN. Canal Tunnels will be the normal way to transfer between the two. Of course wiring the GOBLIN under Thameslink was once an idea.

Apparently a power surge affected the signalling on the Arun valley line and throught Gatwick airport this morning.

Power surges must be the new in-problem.

It was a local power cut.

 

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Evening Standard are reporting problems during yesterday's power cut which caused people to become trapped in a lift. They said the power problems lasted 2 hours ending at 1am. Surely that would be 2 days ago or do you count the day as being from the time problem ended rather than started? It is splitting hairs but newspapers like doing that don't they?

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[RichardN]

They wont ever use GOBLIN. Canal Tunnels will be the normal way to transfer between the two. Of course wiring the GOBLIN under Thameslink was once an idea.



It was a local power cut.

Southern were blaming it on a power surge. I always thought a cut was a much more likely reason, presumably at the ROC.

 

[Bald Rick]

It is the National Grid doing major switching to take certain grid lines and / or substations off line for planned maintenance for the 'summer'.

They always do it the week after the clocks go back, as peak power consumption drops off by about 5GW or so from then as the evenings are suddenly lighter and people tend not to switch on their lights / heating etc until after their tea / Eastenders / Coronation St rather than before. Yes really.

Look at the last weeks power draw on this site.

http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk

 

[Class377/5]

Southern were blaming it on a power surge. I always thought a cut was a much more likely reason, presumably at the ROC.

There was a power surge on tuesday night and a power failure on thursday morning, but I'm not sure which one you mean.

The ROC didn't lose any power as the UPS kicked in. Well mostly (and for the importamnt stuff).

 

[Jonny]

Nope. There were railway power stations at Durnsford Road and Rotherhithe on the SR

Outside of 3rd rail land, I'm not aware of any and for 25kv AC the grid is the most suitable option anyway.
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I'm surprised that an issue at one substation (as mentioned by National Grid on Twitter) affected such a big area?!

If the relevant National Grid map is to be believed (google is your friend), Beddington is a relatively minor substation which makes the resulting disruption rather more alarming.

 

[RichardN]

SouthernRailUK (@SouthernRailUK) tweeted at 7:00 AM on Wed, Apr 02, 2014:
*Service update 0700: Delays of up to 60mins owing to a power surge affecting signalling equipment at Gatwick & Arun Valley area*
(https://twitter.com/SouthernRailUK/status/451237681755095041)

This is the one I'm talking about.

 

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SouthernRailUK (@SouthernRailUK) tweeted at 7:00 AM on Wed, Apr 02, 2014:
*Service update 0700: Delays of up to 60mins owing to a power surge affecting signalling equipment at Gatwick & Arun Valley area*
(https://twitter.com/SouthernRailUK/status/451237681755095041)

This is the one I'm talking about.

It was a power cut on that occasion when affected Three Bridges box with two panels going down initially.