Greater Anglia Liveries Discussion

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[dk1]

156415 now at Norwich on hire to Greater Anglia for the next few weeks.

 

[SansPareil]

Greater Anglia really seem to be struggling for Units at the moment, Norwich was chaos on Saturday when the railtour was there after a 153 failed outside Crown Point, and one of the 47s on the short set failed temporarily, drags to Great Yarmouth were cancelled. I believe 156415 has now returned to East Midlands Trains?

Incidentally I noticed three variations of the former ONE livery on the mk3 coaches, some have the rainbow overpainted black, others blue, and some have three equally sized bands, of black,blue, black. I hadn't previously noticed that.

 

[Tottenham Flyer]

Greater Anglia really seem to be struggling for Units at the moment, Norwich was chaos on Saturday when the railtour was there after a 153 failed outside Crown Point, and one of the 47s on the short set failed temporarily, drags to Great Yarmouth were cancelled. I believe 156415 has now returned to East Midlands Trains?

Incidentally I noticed three variations of the former ONE livery on the mk3 coaches, some have the rainbow overpainted black, others blue, and some have three equally sized bands, of black,blue, black. I hadn't previously noticed that.

156415 has indeed retuned to Derby. However 156418 has retuned from Wolverton after refurb (nothing has gone in its place yet), and 170271 is also now on its way back to Norwich after being at Wolverton for crash repairs.

 

[SprinterMan]

156415 has indeed retuned to Derby. However 156418 has retuned from Wolverton after refurb (nothing has gone in its place yet), and 170271 is also now on its way back to Norwich after being at Wolverton for crash repairs.

Thanks for the info, good news for GA then. I do wonder which 156 will go next, I am praying it's 156416 as it's paintwork is dire. I haven't seen 153314 in ages, is it still running around in faded ONE colours? Is there any more news of the Mark 3 repaint, their internal condition is at least "clean" now, but their external appearance is gradually falling from "embarrassing" to "disgraceful".

Adam

 

[anglia.rail]

I haven't seen 153314 in ages, is it still running around in faded ONE colours?

Adam

153314 is still in one livery at the moment. I think its only used with 153309 or 153322 (only 2 153s I've seen it with)
I think 153314 is going to be repainted after the 156s

 

[TheEdge]

153314 is still in one livery at the moment. I think its only used with 153309 or 153322 (only 2 153s I've seen it with)
I think 153314 is going to be repainted after the 156s

AFAIK there is no special working around 314, will work with everything. It is end of the queue

 

[Prairie_5542]

The new white with red/blue doors gets dirty and shows up dirt more easily.

 

[CockneySparrow]

The new white with red/blue doors gets dirty and shows up dirt more easily.

is it just cheap under coat then

 

[anglia.rail]

Has any of the class 156 units left for Wolverton yet?
I noted 156409 and 156407 (wherry line vinyls) at Gt. Yarmouth today. So if one of the units has left for refurb, then this isn't the unit.
Also 170204 was on 15.55 Gt. Yarmouth to Norwich, (calls at Norwich only). Is a 170 common on Saturdays? I haven't seen one before on this route.
Finally, (sorry to go off topic on the thread) Due to the maritime festival in Yarmouth many 156 units (ones already in GA livery) were operating with a GA livery class 153 between Norwich and Yarmouth.

 

[SprinterMan]

Has any of the class 156 units left for Wolverton yet?
I noted 156409 and 156407 (wherry line vinyls) at Gt. Yarmouth today. So if one of the units has left for refurb, then this isn't the unit.
Also 170204 was on 15.55 Gt. Yarmouth to Norwich, (calls at Norwich only). Is a 170 common on Saturdays? I haven't seen one before on this route.
Finally, (sorry to go off topic on the thread) Due to the maritime festival in Yarmouth many 156 units (ones already in GA livery) were operating with a GA livery class 153 between Norwich and Yarmouth.

Please see the Opening Post of this thread, I update it regularly and it is currently fully up to date. Currently nothing is at Wolverton as Railcare is undergoing a change of ownership. 170s do sometimes turn up at Yarmouth at weekends, including some scheduled turns, marked in the timetable as having 1st class.

Adam

 

[anglia.rail]

Please see the Opening Post of this thread, I update it regularly and it is currently fully up to date. Currently nothing is at Wolverton as Railcare is undergoing a change of ownership

Adam

OK, thanks for that. Will now have a look

 

[tom1681]

156409 ('Cromer pier seaside special') left Crown Point this morning...

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R73364/2013/09/16/advanced

 

[SprinterMan]

156409 ('Cromer pier seaside special') left Crown Point this morning...

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R73364/2013/09/16/advanced

Thanks very much for that. Hopefully it keeps it's name, despite the fact it is only a sticker and not a cast plate. WHy they haven't sent 156416 I don't know.

Adam

 

[Tottenham Flyer]

Thanks very much for that. Hopefully it keeps it's name, despite the fact it is only a sticker and not a cast plate. WHy they haven't sent 156416 I don't know.

Adam

Because it's not due a repaint yet....

 

[df9901]

Polar Bear Livery
Carried by:
TSO 12139 - Still retains old Virgin Trains interior​

Which interior is that? Something different to the other GA mk3s? Any photos?

Thanks

 

[SprinterMan]

Polar Bear Livery
Carried by:
TSO 12139 - Still retains old Virgin Trains interior​

Which interior is that? Something different to the other GA mk3s? Any photos?

Thanks

Different seat covers (even more like the ones in stagecoach buses) and green carpet on the walls and luggage rack instead of brown. Also, the carpet on the floor was very similar to the old Air2000 colour scheme.

Adam

 

[df9901]

Different seat covers (even more like the ones in stagecoach buses) and green carpet on the walls and luggage rack instead of brown. Also, the carpet on the floor was very similar to the old Air2000 colour scheme.

Ooh - different. Not sure I've been on that one.

Side note: your mention of buses reminded me.. I noticed the other week that GA's 321 refresh seat covers are the same as Abellio London Buses.. subtle

 

[nxea321446]

does anyone know when the greater anglia mk3's will start moving to wolverton to be repainted as it is due to start this month

 

[oliMw]

Surprised that's while the 156s are still off, do you have a source we can see

 

[tom1681]

I hear that the first two Mk3 coaches will go off at the end of next week. These two will take two weeks, subsequent batches of two will supposedly take one week.

Work being done, as far as we know is:

New bogies
Brake system overhaul
New (re-conditioned) air-con modules
Bodyshell repairs (rust proofing etc)
Vestibule seal replacement
Re-paint in white with red doors.

Doesn't look like power doors or retention toilets will be coming at this stage.

 

[Manchester77]

Any kind of refresh to the interior? Even if it's just new seat covers, carpets and minor interior changes it'd be an improvement they do look very tired now.

 

[Trainfan344]

This means I might get refurbished Mk3's on my service from liverpool street to Norwich when I come home for christmas.

 

[387star]

I hear that the first two Mk3 coaches will go off at the end of next week. These two will take two weeks, subsequent batches of two will supposedly take one week.

Work being done, as far as we know is:

New bogies
Brake system overhaul
New (re-conditioned) air-con modules
Bodyshell repairs (rust proofing etc)
Vestibule seal replacement
Re-paint in white with red doors.

Doesn't look like power doors or retention toilets will be coming at this stage.

Excellent news very excited I love repaints

Ga will have a pretty uniform fleet once the 315s are done


Presumably 360s and 170s wont be treated at this point but certainly more than Nxea did!

 

[Manchester77]

With the extension of the franchise to 2016; could we expect the pre NXEA/ONE stock to be refurbished?

 

[david_VI]

Uniformity is finally coming after all these chops and changes!

I wonder if they will ever get around to the 360s as they've always looked out of place and remained mostly in the FGW livery minus the vinyls (I believe).

Everything else changes around them while they have been pretty much the same since they came into use!

 

[tom1681]

Any kind of refresh to the interior? Even if it's just new seat covers, carpets and minor interior changes it'd be an improvement they do look very tired now.

Doesn't seem like it. Possibly the odd replaced carpet here and there if it's really required I hear, but I guess that means it will have to be pretty much the same colours as what's there now.

With the extension of the franchise to 2016; could we expect the pre NXEA/ONE stock to be refurbished?

As I understand it, the Mk3s are being done solely because Porterbrook want/need to (although GA have requested the red doors) so the 170s/360s won't be done just because the franchise is going on a bit longer.

 

[badassunicorn]

Are the 90's and DVT's being repainted as well? Will look pretty odd if all the coaches are white/red and the ends are in ONE or NXEA stripes!

 

[tom1681]

Are the 90's and DVT's being repainted as well? Will look pretty odd if all the coaches are white/red and the ends are in ONE or NXEA stripes!

Well you would have thought so but no one's mentioned that yet so might be after the coaches are done... there will be some odd combinations running round if that is the case.

 

[jopsuk]

once more, a pity that the opportunity isn't being taken to refurbish the fleet to Chiltern power door standard and standardise the formations (the new/converted driving vehicle plan can wait)