How about a "no eating" coach?

[trainophile]

Just reading everyone's thoughts about the quiet coach, and it made me think that perhaps in an ideal world where every train has lots of coaches it would be lovely to be able to escape from the detritus and smell of people's eating habits while on the move!

The 1804 LM Liverpool Lime Street to Birmingham New Street often resembles a mobile branch of McDonalds, and smells like it too!

I have no objection to people consuming coffee, tea or a sandwich (provided it's cold and they don't litter the wrappers/cartons on table, seats or floor), but even strong smelling crisps permeate the atmosphere in enclosed spaces.

This suggestion is obviously tic, but having moved seat to get away from someone's burger, only to find myself next to a group of four kebab-consumers, it's a nice idea isn't it?

 

[bunnahabhain]

I have no objection to people consuming coffee, tea or a sandwich (provided it's cold and they don't litter the wrappers/cartons on table, seats or floor), but even strong smelling crisps permeate the atmosphere in enclosed spaces.

Why would anybody wish to drink cold tea or coffee?

 

[trainophile]

Why would anybody wish to drink cold tea or coffee?

Lol, point taken. I refer Your Honour, of course, to the sandwich . Hot drinks are permitted.

Although I was served some decidedly cool coffee in Virgin First Class recently, however there was a train electrical fault at the time so I can hardly blame them.

 

[Greenback]

Many transport operations, trams buses and so on, now seem to ban the consumption of hot food and drink on board.

I assume that a ban has never been implemented on trains because of the fact that hot food and drink has been served on a train for generations!

I can foresee several problems in trying to implement a no eating coach. Firstly, what exactly should be prohibited? While Trainophile might find some strong smelling crisps objectionable, the only ones I have a problem with are Salt and Vinegar! So, should all crisps be banned, only some or none at all as they are cold, snack food?

What about pasties? Would they be allowed if they had cooled down, but not if they were still hot from Greggs? And, my final question, (though I reserve the right to ask mroe later)

Should the no eating coach be combined with the Quiet Coach?

 

[D841 Roebuck]

Why would anybody wish to drink cold tea or coffee?

Its a matter of taste.

I personally don't mind cold black coffee, but detest tea in any incarnation, hot or cold.

However products such as Liptonice seem to sell...

 

[pinguini]

I was on board a train last night from Euston to Coventry. The gentleman sat in the seats adjacent to me opened his rucksack, proceeded to bring out a loaf of bread, a packet of ham and some slices of cheese. He then made himself a nice little sandwich or two. And it stank, horribly. He then got one of those huge packets of kettle crisps out, ate them all (apart from the seven or eight he got on the floor/table/seats) and then disappeared for the rest of the journey (presumably to the loos).

 

[chris89]

How would you be able to stop people eating or drinking in a carriage?
What services would it apply to or a blanket thing to happen.

As Greenback said many bus companies do have a no hot food/ drink policy for them, two that operate that near me are Arriva West Midlands & Whittles Coaches. Unsure for National Express, as rarely use those buses.

Myself would be against it, yes some bring on stinking food and don't think of others, but many people do not do that what is good.

All it would do is add more conflict to traveling environments, especially going by some peoples experience in quiet coaches.

Chris

 

[Skimpot flyer]

Should the no eating coach be combined with the Quiet Coach?

And, in the interests of fairness, shouldn't there be a 'noisy eaters' coach, for those who want to munch and crunch a large packet of strong-smelling salt'n'vinegar crisps ?

 

[GNER 373]

I walked into a carriage recently where the couple who were sitting immediately to my left were enjoying a Sushi Meal. The sweet smell of warm raw fish mixed with the fumes of wasabi dip and either fish sauce or balsamic vinegar was a real treat to my nostrils!!! Not.

 

[Jonfun]

It's only food, really. People have taken food onto the train with them since the dawn of railways - it isn't like a noisy mobile phone conversation which could stop people sleeping, or disturb them from work. And while on-train catering's on the pricey side, it makes more sense to just grab something from McDonalds or Subway or wherever before you get on board.

In this ideal world with loads of coaches, how about a Starbucks coach, or a McDonald's coach so you can get some food or a coffee at a reasonably sensible price hot and freshly done on board? And you'd probably find the people who wanted to eat or drink could sit in there and the OP can have your nice non-foody coach

 

[DelayRepay]

Should the no eating coach be combined with the Quiet Coach?

Some might suggest that East Coast are already trialing a First Class No Eating coach, if reports from this good forum are to be believed!

 

[quarella]

Would the No Eating coach also apply to those who pick their nose and eat it.

 

[daniel78]

What about pasties? Would they be allowed if they had cooled down, but not if they were still hot from Greggs?

You can only take them on board if you have a VAT receipt proving it's not above room temperature.

 

[D841 Roebuck]

Would the No Eating coach also apply to those who pick their nose and eat it.

It would have to be a pacer or similar 4 wheel vehicle if a "no bogies" rule were to be applied...

 

[Aldaniti]

There's nothing worse than some bugger bringing Fish & Chips onto a train. Just makes me want to get off and go and buy some!

Anyone eating Cheese & Onion crisps onboard should be horsewhipped.

 

[trainophile]

Thanks for the entertainment folks. I just knew someone would drag the tone down eventually. Thread closed?

 

[Tiny Tim]

I just love taking my own food on the train, particularly on long journeys. Having paid a king's ransom to travel, I don't want to spend even more at station buffets for overpriced rubbish. My preferred provender is cheese and onion sandwiches, made with mature, strong cheddar, thickly sliced onion on home made multigrain bread; Smelly but nice. I don't really see whose business it is which carriage I choose to eat my sarnies in. It's a sandwich. Get over it.

 

[Crossover]

I had a thought about this last night as I was in first class with someone who had a BK sandwich thing. In fairness though, there was only any smell for about 5 mins and I had a sandwich and crisps myself anyway

 

[yorksrob]

To the gentleman saying those eating cheese and onion crisps should be horsewhipped - My preferred flavour is salt and vinegar but the Sainsbury's at Leeds only does the crinkly cheese and onion ones on offer (and beef for some reason - yuk)

But seriously - banning food ? It's annoying sometimes when someone brings something particularly pungent on, but it is I fear a slippery slope.

 

[DarloRich]

Just reading everyone's thoughts about the quiet coach, and it made me think that perhaps in an ideal world where every train has lots of coaches it would be lovely to be able to escape from the detritus and smell of people's eating habits while on the move!

The 1804 LM Liverpool Lime Street to Birmingham New Street often resembles a mobile branch of McDonalds, and smells like it too!

I have no objection to people consuming coffee, tea or a sandwich (provided it's cold and they don't litter the wrappers/cartons on table, seats or floor), but even strong smelling crisps permeate the atmosphere in enclosed spaces.

This suggestion is obviously tic, but having moved seat to get away from someone's burger, only to find myself next to a group of four kebab-consumers, it's a nice idea isn't it?

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll: Dont you just love blue sky helicopter thinking?

No, neither do I.

Why shouldnt i eat a pie or a butty on the train? What harm does it do? Wil lthe trolley be forbidden from entering this carriage in case people are tempted with a tepid brew or a limp chesse and onion butty

 

[SS4]

How would you be able to stop people eating or drinking in a carriage?
What services would it apply to or a blanket thing to happen.

As Greenback said many bus companies do have a no hot food/ drink policy for them, two that operate that near me are Arriva West Midlands & Whittles Coaches. Unsure for National Express, as rarely use those buses.

Myself would be against it, yes some bring on stinking food and don't think of others, but many people do not do that what is good.

All it would do is add more conflict to traveling environments, especially going by some peoples experience in quiet coaches.

Chris

NXWM do ban it through a blanket ban on food and drink but you'd be forgiven for thinking it was permitted

I'd rather food wasn't banned personally, the smell does bother me sometimes (mainly by making me hungry) but there is no substitute for hot food on the go and I'd rather permit eating

 

[chris89]

NXWM do ban it through a blanket ban on food and drink but you'd be forgiven for thinking it was permitted

I'd rather food wasn't banned personally, the smell does bother me sometimes (mainly by making me hungry) but there is no substitute for hot food on the go and I'd rather permit eating

Thank you was unsure with NXWM as only used them 2/3 three times.

With the food, when hungry it isn't good as makes you want it more so.

When i do travel though, i do try to avoid smelly crisps, by sticking to ready salted, salt and vinegar ones instead.

Chris

 

[jb]

Landing back in the UK on a Friday evening, catching a Stansted Express and then a SWT out of Waterloo highlights very starkly some of the real differences between trains where I now live and those in Blighty:

1. Trains in the UK (at least on a Friday evening in the SE) absloutely stink of food.
2. Trains in the UK (at least on a Friday evening in the SE) are full of ****ed people.

 

[KA4C]

How about coach F on FGW HST's?

What is needed is a no sneezing or coughing coach, or if you must, use a bloody hankerchief, coach

 

[GodAtum]

Food isnt banned on planes so why should it be on trains.

 

[LCC106]

Personally loving this thread! A bit of light relief. Thanks for making me smile! On a serious note though, the smell of tuna sandwiches really does make me wretch If someone was eating one next to me I may have to move... at least until they'd finished it.

 

[SS4]

Personally loving this thread! A bit of light relief. Thanks for making me smile! On a serious note though, the smell of tuna sandwiches really does make me wretch If someone was eating one next to me I may have to move... at least until they'd finished it.

Ah but the smell lingers so it'd be uninhabitable for all but the longest journeys

 

[LCC106]

Good point

Blimey! Liking the look of that pie in your picture! It's pie night at my local pub, I'm not at work tomorrow and I am suddenly feeling rather hungry! Sorry to go off topic...

 

[KA4C]

Personally loving this thread! A bit of light relief. Thanks for making me smile! On a serious note though, the smell of tuna sandwiches really does make me wretch If someone was eating one next to me I may have to move... at least until they'd finished it.

Don't sit next to me then, I carry those foiled wrapped tuna meals in my bag for occasions of sudden hunger when travelling back from long shifts

 

[LCC106]

@KA4C
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