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Can you imagine how annoying it would be if Florida was still holding the key to the final outcome of the 2012 election result. Still no news as I write.

What like the 2000 election you mean? What was it 45 days before there was a result?

Why is it taking so long ?

I imagine re-count after re-count would be one factor.
 

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Major was a very weak PM though, he was very easily influenced and basically anyone and everyone, especially in his Cabinet, could twist him a lot, a world away from Thatcher or Blair.

As much as I despise Blair I have to be honest and say that I respect him in a way, along with Thatcher and Bush Jr in the US, because they didn't let anyone tell them what to do - in a way they were true leaders, determined and confident...

Thatcher was downright arrogant in my view, a person who couldn't be reasoned with.
 

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I am wary of believing anything I'm told

Me too. Particularly things like this:

Dig on the internet but in short there are severe doubts as to his:

Paternity
Place of Birth (and thus elegibility for the office of President)
College Record
Health/Drug dependency
and much, much more...

I think most people this side of the pond are going to get a big surprise when Obama crashes and burns!

He's totally lost his heartland among black voters in Chicago where he is universally derided as "Bath House Barry" (do the research!)

No it's off to Hawaii in January for Michelle and Barry!
 

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Me too. Particularly things like this:

Touche! or is it Touchez!.....I've hated French since school - much prefer German

Yes I got that one wrong but not by a very big margin.
 
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Given it looks like Obama has won Florida it is rather a big margin, very comfortable in fact. People can rattle on about the popular vote but it means nothing.

Just been trying to find out what is happening in Florida, but there seems still no result to announce as yet.
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Was it not said that Obama had won more of the popular vote than Romney ?
 

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Was it not said that Obama had won more of the popular vote than Romney ?

He did but he only won by 2% which out of one hundred and nineteen million votes cast for the two candidates is a pretty tiny margin of victory. But as YorkshrieRider alludes to it doesn't matter because in the Electoral College it was a drubbing.
 

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He did but he only won by 2% which out of one hundred and nineteen million votes cast for the two candidates is a pretty tiny margin of victory. But as YorkshrieRider alludes to it doesn't matter because in the Electoral College it was a drubbing.

I only made that posting as it appeared that some members earlier in the thread seemed to suggest that Obama would have not won a larger share of the popular vote.
 

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He did but he only won by 2% which out of one hundred and nineteen million votes cast for the two candidates is a pretty tiny margin of victory. But as YorkshrieRider alludes to it doesn't matter because in the Electoral College it was a drubbing.

Even completely one-sided electoral colleges don't translate to such a big margin in the popular vote; like in 1984 when Reagan defeated Mondale by 525 to 13, Reagan only got 58.8% of the vote.
 

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Even completely one-sided electoral colleges don't translate to such a big margin in the popular vote; like in 1984 when Reagan defeated Mondale by 525 to 13, Reagan only got 58.8% of the vote.

Which just adds to the list of reasons why I don't like the Electoral College as a system :lol:
 

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Maine and Nebraska are the most awkward. They give two votes to the overall winner, and then distribute points according to how each area of the State has voted for each candidate, resulting in Obama having scored 1 for Nebraska in 2008 against McCain's 4...

...why can't they make it simple? Either everywhere does this, or nowhere does this.
 

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He did but he only won by 2% which out of one hundred and nineteen million votes cast for the two candidates is a pretty tiny margin of victory. But as YorkshrieRider alludes to it doesn't matter because in the Electoral College it was a drubbing.

That's still a couple of million votes to be fair.

I must admit, I'd have expected turnout to be higher, given a population of around 350 million.
 

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Managed to find a full list of the candidates standing in Florida and find there is one called Roseanne Barr. Is she the same person who used to have her own situation comedy TV series quite some time ago ?

That's interesting. Is she standing for any particular party ? TBH I think "the" Roseanne Barr is still well known enough over here to have been mentioned in the papers (or at least the showbiz columns) had she been standing.
 

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That's interesting. Is she standing for any particular party ? TBH I think "the" Roseanne Barr is still well known enough over here to have been mentioned in the papers (or at least the showbiz columns) had she been standing.

The report I read referred to her as a comedienne. She stood on the Peace and Freedom ticket and in Florida, she is said to have received 48,797 votes.
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Saturday afternoon

It has just been announced that Obama has been declared the winner of the Florida election.
 

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I would expect Paul Ryan for the Republicans, he's young, energetic and I actually found him quite a likeable person, as a character he's strikes me as a white Obama.
 

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I would expect Paul Ryan for the Republicans, he's young, energetic and I actually found him quite a likeable person, as a character he's strikes me as a white Obama.

If you ignore all the misogyny, homophobia and rape apologetism in his rhetoric... :P


Hillary Clinton for the Democrats anyone? (She'll only be 69 by then, quite a bit younger than many candidates have been.)
 

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If you ignore all the misogyny and homophobia in his rhetoric...

Which is why I said 'as a character' - he brings the youthfullness, eagerness and chirpyness that Obama brought in 2008. Of course he's a world apart from Obama on policy, but to look at...
 

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I'm still disappointed she didn't get the nomination in 2008. Assuming she went on to win the election we'd have had the wonderful symmetry of Bush - Clinton - Bush - Clinton!

But in all seriousness I would be fairly surprised if she didn't at least try for the nomination and I wouldn't be surprised if she won it.
 
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