Hmmm, :roll:I was merely relating a couple of tales of what I have seen out and about on trains
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Should any dog be allowed on any train?
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Hmmm, :roll:I was merely relating a couple of tales of what I have seen out and about on trains
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craigwilson
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I wouldn't want to see dogs banned from trains...there is no reason why any well behaved animal shouldn't travel.
It's the inconsiderate owners I generally have the problem with...I am one of those people who wouldn't ever want to see a dog come to harm, but feel extremely uncomfortable around them, especially when they're unknown ones.
I also don't appreciate the "but he's only being friendly" types - well you may know that, but I think a dog's body language/expressions are not easy to read, and I can't tell so easily. And I can't move away as quickly as I can in the open air!
Those people often seem highly amused by the fact that I might be scared of their doggy - ultimately in my mind this is an animal that *could* bite me, and I can't communicate with it in the same way I can with a fellow human - I think that's a perfectly rational reason to be fearful of something.
Strangely I don't have a fear of insects which some people have though (these people conversely might be fine with dogs themselves!!).
I do think dogs should be allowed on trains, for all the reasons people have said, but should be muzzled/on leads...maybe not as a hard an fast part of the rules, but just out of consideration by the dog owner for the other passengers.
It's the inconsiderate owners I generally have the problem with...I am one of those people who wouldn't ever want to see a dog come to harm, but feel extremely uncomfortable around them, especially when they're unknown ones.
I also don't appreciate the "but he's only being friendly" types - well you may know that, but I think a dog's body language/expressions are not easy to read, and I can't tell so easily. And I can't move away as quickly as I can in the open air!
Those people often seem highly amused by the fact that I might be scared of their doggy - ultimately in my mind this is an animal that *could* bite me, and I can't communicate with it in the same way I can with a fellow human - I think that's a perfectly rational reason to be fearful of something.
Strangely I don't have a fear of insects which some people have though (these people conversely might be fine with dogs themselves!!).
I do think dogs should be allowed on trains, for all the reasons people have said, but should be muzzled/on leads...maybe not as a hard an fast part of the rules, but just out of consideration by the dog owner for the other passengers.
MattRobinson
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Dogs should, in general, be allowed on trains, IMO. My westie loves travelling (for short distances) by train, although he does have a habit of spreading himself out and going to sleep.
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Butts
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Going back to an earlier query are they allowed in 1st Class on East Coast where food is served ? (or any other TOC that provides a similar service)
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WelshBluebird
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But surely you can say exactly the same thing about human passengers?
Tomonthetrain
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Replace G4S with dogs lol my springer would catch fare dodgers. It'd be woof justice though
northwichcat
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Report on the news tonight about ordinary dogs being a danger to guide dogs with an increasing number of reports where guide dogs are attacked by ordinary dogs. Apparently, due to a guide dog's training it won't respond to another dog in the way the other dog would expect so the other dog thinks it's weird and may attack it and the guide dog won't fight back so the other dog carries on attacking it.
Butts
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I can answer my own question now - a Black Labrador boarded the 1755 from Northallerton straight into East Coast First Class - along with a humanoid.
michael769
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This surprises me.
I didn't think you were allowed to bring your human with you in 1st class.
I guess they let anyone in now.
I didn't think you were allowed to bring your human with you in 1st class.
I guess they let anyone in now.
Butts
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Butts
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Unfortunately they don't do "All Day Breakfasts" (1755) he had to settle for a baked spud with Coronation Chicken
Hey thats an idea why don't EC offer "All Day Breakfasts" - Little Chef style !!
Whistler40145
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Good idea for All Day Breakfasts, are you meaning for dogs or humans!
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Chapeltom
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I have taken my dog on a train a few times, she's well behaved enough and I plonk her on the seat next to me. I then usually get a load of people wanting to stroke her.
I haven't a problem with dogs on trains if the owner/handler ensures it behaves and is under adequate control.
I haven't a problem with dogs on trains if the owner/handler ensures it behaves and is under adequate control.
Whistler40145
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Wasn't meaning to discriminate, but wondered who would enjoy it more, especially if it was a Little Chef style 'All Day Breakfast'.
I am intrigued to know if a dog would enjoy Black Pudding or not?
I am intrigued to know if a dog would enjoy Black Pudding or not?
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Whistler40145
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Quite funny.
Temple Meads
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This is very tricky for me, as I'm not a fan of dogs close up in real life until I get used to a certain dog, and can be reasonably sure it's not a nutter (a dog chased me in a park when I was 4, and unfortunately it's had a lasting effect on me), but have no problem with them from a distance.
Anyway, the best solution would be a special area of the train especially for dogs and their owners, but unfortunately that could never happen due to the small amount of dogs on trains.
Perhaps making muzzles compulsory for train travel might be a helpful step in stopping any incidents happening in future, although for me barking and jumping up is quite alarming, but dogs can't help such behaviour, and I wouldn't want dogs banned purely for my own selfishness, on the whole they mean no harm and they cause no harm.
The points raised about dog mess and hair are rather silly, I've never smelt or seen such things on a train, and I have seen human vomit and spilled food on a reasonably regular basis (so food and drunken/sick people should be banned too??)
Anyway, the best solution would be a special area of the train especially for dogs and their owners, but unfortunately that could never happen due to the small amount of dogs on trains.
Perhaps making muzzles compulsory for train travel might be a helpful step in stopping any incidents happening in future, although for me barking and jumping up is quite alarming, but dogs can't help such behaviour, and I wouldn't want dogs banned purely for my own selfishness, on the whole they mean no harm and they cause no harm.
The points raised about dog mess and hair are rather silly, I've never smelt or seen such things on a train, and I have seen human vomit and spilled food on a reasonably regular basis (so food and drunken/sick people should be banned too??)
MattRobinson
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My dog loves black pudding, so I'd imagine that, in general, they do.
Cliveblackpool
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If I had a dog, and saw another owner taking his dog on the train, I would try to avoid that coach in (probably unlikely but playing safe) case of conflict!)
Anyone with a puppy is often the centre of attention!
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If I had a dog, and saw another owner taking his dog on the train, I would try to avoid that coach in (probably unlikely but playing safe) case of conflict!)
Anyone with a puppy is often the centre of attention!
If its a Guide dog puppy in training I usually end up fussing it (with the trainers permission of course) they are so intelligent and so loving and turn out to be excellently trained and their nature is superb, in fact I have never had any dog on a train "go for me" 99 times out of 100 the dogs are used to trains or their nature is good, even the local chavs dogs are well behaved (they are usually staffies look tough but usually complete softies).
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