Yet again another idiot......

[Turbocharger]

.....who boards a rush hour train with a massive rucksack on their back this morning.

Standing room only and this twit is almost knocking people over everytime they turned or moved about! Not to mention the safety factor if an emergency escape is required!

So mad..............

 

[Greenback]

Do you think that rucksacks should be banned? What about other types of luggage and baby buggies?

Should this only be on rush hour trains? What is the definition of rush hour? Would it include a two car train that left Manchester during the off peak but passes through Cardiff at 1700?

As someone who was delayed and obstructed getting off a paked train by an elderly woman with a walking frame, this will be a fascinating debate!

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Don't disrespect rucksacks mate, for me they are the easiest thing to carry what I need for trips out in!

 

[150222]

Some chav wanted to bring a bmx bike onto a packed 144 on wednesday night. Fortunatly the guard had already buzzed the driver.

 

[Crossover]

Yep, I also use a rucksack to carry stuff in when out and about

I do try to take it off though when on the train, especifically if it busy, although I can't necessarily do it straight away

 

[jopsuk]

morning rush hour... on SUNDAY?

 

[ushawk]

What other alternatives would the person have, other than taking it off and having it on the floor (which would take up more space). People need to use them and you just cant ban them.

 

[MCR247]

morning rush hour... on SUNDAY?

 

[ushawk]

Although i had something similar today at Brighton, 7 people with a bike each wanted to get onto a single 2-car 171. Whether they all got on or not i dont know.

 

[Lee_Again]

No problems with rucksacks or any luggage for that matter. You can bring a bag on the size of Wales for all I care.

Just one thing, though. Be aware of it and stop smashing them in to me each time you make a turn. No wonder people get upset when you crash in to them.

Think first, then turn. Problem solved.

 

[Greenback]

When I am commuting I tend to think 'Look at these idiots with their bikes, pushchairs, suitcases, shopping (or whatever), shouldn't be allowed'.

Then when I am going away for a spell and I have luggage I tend to think 'Look at all these idiot commuters standing about blocking the doors so that I can't get on with my bags, or put them away safely'.

My unfortunate encounter with the walking frame came when I had three large bags to manhandle off the train. I got up early so as to be able to manoeuvre them off the racks withoput delaying other alighting passengers or the train. Having got them to the vestibule I saw to my horror a mobility device and refreshment trolley blocking my path. The lady then seemed upset that she was unable to reach her device due to my bags and me blocking the way. In my desire to speed up the process of alighting for everyone, I inadvertently upset a woman who thought she had priority in reaching her assistance.

The moral of this story is that there no one has any more or less right to get on a train at any time than anyone else. It doesn't matter whether they are disabled, a commuter, have a rucksack or anything else. All that we need are trains with more space and a bit more consideration and co-operation, and we will all be a lot happier!

 

[150222]

I think this thread is a bit pointless. You could complain about anything being brought on a train. Would you complain if a disabled person got on in rushour? I think not and a wheelchair takes up more space than a rucksack.

 

[Greenback]

I agree. Many things can be annoying on board a train depending on your perspective.

 

[tony_mac]

and if you see someone wearing a large rucksack don't stand right next to them!
They may need to turn in order to move or to look behind them.

I wouldn't wear one in even a slightly crowded place but it is amazing how little space people leave sometimes.

 

[CosherB]

The main point here is that a rucksack should be taken off when boarding and while on the train. If you leave it on your back it takes up far more space than if down by your feet, and every time you turn round you swing it into other standing passengers.

I use one regularly, but treat it as 'hand baggage' when on the train and when boarding and de-training, carrying it like a bag.

 

[Fincra5]

Thing is there is often loads of standing room down the coach or even the odd middle seat. Commuters are the worst, they just stand in the door way blocking everything.

 

[Greenback]

Thing is there is often loads of standing room down the coach or even the odd middle seat. Commuters are the worst, they just stand in the door way blocking everything.

Indeed, as with Reading commuters at paddington, all Gowerton passengers stand in the vestibule of the rear coach at Swansea and scowl at anyone else who tries to get on - just so they can get off and go staright out of the station exit!

 

[lm321412]

My only problem with Rucksacks are the people who seem to have them glued to their back...

However, pushchairs and the like annoy me far more.

 

[strange6]

My only problem with Rucksacks are the people who seem to have them glued to their back...

However, pushchairs and the like annoy me far more.

not to mention young lads and their battered looking BMX things. Very common at the weekends and a right royal pain in the bottom

 

[gnolife]

Well, I have to get on a packed 156 in the morning, and I carry a great big heavy rucksack on my back, a laptop bag and a lacrosse kit bag, the expressions on the faces of the people already on the train is one of horror... but I actually do need to lug all that stuff around (well not now that the college year's done)

 

[Lee_Again]

Well, I have to get on a packed 156 in the morning, and I carry a great big heavy rucksack on my back, a laptop bag and a lacrosse kit bag, the expressions on the faces of the people already on the train is one of horror... but I actually do need to lug all that stuff around (well not now that the college year's done)

Fine. No problem at all. Bring more if you wish. Just be considerate when making turns. Think!! That's all.

 

[gnolife]

Fine. No problem at all. Bring more if you wish. Just be considerate when making turns. Think!! That's all.

Aye, I am coniderate of other passengers, unless they're trying to barge past me at Piccadilly, but thats a thing for the thread about people barging past people getting off to get on!

 

[43167]

Some chav wanted to bring a bmx bike onto a packed 144 on wednesday night. Fortunatly the guard had already buzzed the driver.

I once saw about 5-10 bikes on a 2-car 142 on a rush hour service out of Man Vic.

 

[trentside]

I was smacked in the face by a rucksack the other day... the kid carrying it inconsiderately looked shocked when I told him in no uncertain terms to watch where his bag was going. Under most circumstances, though, I've not had a problem with people carrying large bags - indeed I've been in that position myself. My normal approach is to take it off on the platform and carry it in my hand - though that isn't always an option if there's no floor space...

 

[150222]

I once saw about 5-10 bikes on a 2-car 142 on a rush hour service out of Man Vic.

This was also at victoria (the 20.21 to leeds). They like their bikes in manchester it seems.

 

[gnolife]

This was also at victoria (the 20.21 to leeds). They like their bikes in manchester it seems.

no, we like our bikes out of Manchester

 

[Crossover]

I may have accidently hit people I'm ashamed to say, but apologise if I do.

If only carrying a rucksack I tend to take it off and carry it after boarding until alighting as that way, I know I can swing round without knocking anyone out (same applies to shops too, more with anything there)

However I sometimes be dragging a holdall too so until that is sorted, I can't always take the bag off due to not being like an octopus :P

 

[Nym]

.....who boards a rush hour train with a massive rucksack on their back this morning.

Me!

I use one regularly, but treat it as 'hand baggage' when on the train and when boarding and de-training, carrying it like a bag.

Yeah, I normally can't manage to do that, it's either a 35L rucksack or 80L bergan depending on how much I'm taking on, the latter usually not in rush hour, but I do treat the latter as luggage as it's bigger than most small children. The former usually has to stay on my back, it's quite heavy and to get it on and off I need a clear 3 ft around me, and that isn't available before getting into the bag snatching areas of Piccadilly or Oxford Road, so that one stays on, but doesn't swing into pepole's faces, since I'm aware of how big and heavy it is. And to quantify it for you, 80 or 90lbs isn't unusual for me to have to carry into Manchester in a morning.

If you don't want me to carry this, how do you suggest I carry it into Manchester, in some kind of hand baggage it would break my hand off, as I said, taking it on and off isn't easy. I can't use a bus because it takes too long, nor can I drive in because well, rush hour traffic takes the urine between Bolton and Manchester.

My only problem with Rucksacks are the people who seem to have them glued to their back...

Like I said, heavy...

And sometimes containing upwards of tens of thousands of pounds worth of equipment, usually at least in the mid thousands. I can't risk it being stolen!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Just one thing, though. Be aware of it and stop smashing them in to me each time you make a turn. No wonder people get upset when you crash in to them. Think first, then turn. Problem solved.

This is the best possible answer...covers all aspects. I did once see an elderly woman in a First TPE train at Durham once get hit on the side of her head as she was just about to sit down at her seat, by a student near her, turning suddenly to talk to his girlfriend, wearing a very large rucksack.

Profuse apologies were at once said by the student, but if he had realised how dangerous it was to do what he had done, in the first place, this incident would never had occured.

 

[Smethwickian]

My pet hate, luggage-wise, is people with stupid little cases on wheels with great big long handles, so people are dragging them along yards behind them blissfully unaware whose feet they're running over or whose ankles they're bashing.