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I noticed that at a lot of NXEA owned stations, a new type of ticket machine called 'TicketXpress' has been installed. I think these machines are very easy to use, and wonder if they are being used outside of East Anglia!
 
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I noticed that at a lot of NXEA owned stations, a new type of ticket machine called 'Xpressnet' has been installed. I think these machines are very easy to use, and wonder if they are being used outside of East Anglia!

Do you mean the TicketXpress machines?

The ones that externally look like this:

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And have a touch screen display like this:

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If you do mean these machines, they are manufacted by a German company called "Scheidt & Bachmann.

They have been around since about 2003 (first gaining ATOC accreditation in 2001) and gradually have became increasingly popular with TOCs. Current users are Arriva Trains Wales, East Midlands Trains, First Capital Connect, First Great Western, First ScotRail, London Overground, Merseyrail, Northern Rail, National Express East Anglia, Southeastern and South West Trains
 

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They have been around since about 2003 (first gaining ATOC accreditation in 2001) and gradually have became increasingly popular with TOCs. Current users are Arriva Trains Wales, East Midlands Trains, First Capital Connect, First Great Western, First ScotRail, London Overground, Merseyrail, Northern Rail, National Express East Anglia, Southeastern and South West Trains

LM also uses them.
 

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aye pretty damn easy to use yet still many punters are confuddled by the concept
 

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TPE also use them. They're certainly at Dewsbury, I've used them before. Pretty nice to use.
 

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That is indeed the right machine, I didn't notice the difference straight away!
 

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EMT recently replaced the Midland Mainline Fast Ticket machines with these. Whilst they're more flexible than their predecessors, they do have the downside of you needing to put in your booking reference number when collecting tickets. On the previous machines, providing there was only one booking waiting to be printed, it would print instantly. I never really get why they need those references, surely their database can handle a simple SELECT * FROM [cardnumber] or some such query.
 

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Whilst most of the people that have posted in the topic think the machines are quite reasonable, I recently stumbled upon a company blog of an IT consultancy who analysed the machines when they were first introduced at Waterloo and were extrememly scathing of the machines design ergonomics and user interface (http://consultingblogs.emc.com/pauldawson/archive/2006/07/20/New-Self-Serve-Ticket-Machines.aspx):

EMC Consulting said:
New Self Serve Ticket Machines

Now, I'm not one to keep quiet about a new customer self service device that I think is lacking, and today is no exception.

Recently, South West Trains implemented almost overnight a replacement to their station self-service ticket machines. The devices are touch screen operated and only accept card payments from cards that have a smart chip and a PIN.

The machines went in to Waterloo station a few weeks back, and since then I've seen the queues growing...

Today though, I had the opportunity to use one for the first time, and it's pretty bad!

But before I dive into what's wrong with it. Let's get straight to the point about how this lack of usability affects passengers and SouthWest Trains:

1 - Queue time is longer for everyone - causing station flow problems and customer aggravation - maybe even late trains with passengers being later on to the platform
2 - Staffing costs are higher - people need more help, and this costs wages - and so, ticket prices
3 - The machines are putting passengers in a bad mood - a passenger in a bad mood is more likely to abuse or assault staff or cause problems for other passengers
4 - The machine could actually cause an injury for someone with a joint or muscle weakness through making them contort themselves to see the card reader
5 - Robberies and theft will increase - while passengers are distracted by the machine, their bags, mobile phones and pockets are vulnerable

So...
- operational costs will increase
- crime will increase
- customer confidence will be knocked
- on time performance of trains will suffer
- the cost to remedy the defects in the system are going to be large whereas they could have been sorted out months before go-live

(now we get detailed...)

Why is it so bad?

The machine's main interface is a touch-screen, set for me at about waist height - I checked, and it's spot on for the optimal height based on anthropometrc data and accessibility requirements, so no bad there.

There is however, a secondary interface, a card reader and PIN entry keypad. This is set to the right of the touchscreen with the keypad at a sensible angle. Mistake one though, is that there is an LCD display on the card device, that is set flat upright, so to read it, I have to bend down. With a queue of people pressing behind me, this made me get a little intimate with the man behind me.

So, the device ergonomics aren't great, but it's not the worst I've seen. What about the user interface?

The basic premise is that, based on where the machine is, there is a list of tickets for appropriate destinatons.

The list itself puts each ticket type, price and description in a box bordered with a two-three pixel line. The background colour between these box areas and the rest of the screen is the same. Seeing as there is no other interface device though, the user doesn't have much choice but to touch the screen, despite the fact that the touch targets don't look much like buttons, and don't have any tactile look or feel.

There are two columns of tickets, and I didn't even look at the second column, probably because by that time I didn't care,... I'd found my ticket. Or rather, I'd had it pointed out to me!

The machines are staffed on a 1:1 ratio by staff helping people use them (yes, that's one person per machine). So, when I first got there, I was asked "what ticket do you need?" - I declined the help and said that I would like to try to find it myself. However, after a few seconds of looking up and down the screen, I couldn't find it. It turned out to be the 4th of about 8 options in the first column.

The challenge here is that the interface needs to be dynamically data-driven. i.e. dependent on location, the tickets available in the back-end system, etc. Therefore, inclusion of graphic elements that helped pick out the key ticket types a bit better, was presumably vetoed.

However, because every box looks the same, I have to read every box to find my ticket. All of the text inside the box is the same weight and size, so it's difficult to pick out things like destination or ticket type (travelcard, etc.) when scanning. Hence, I had to read through carefully, whilst under pressure from the queue behind me, and I failed... "ok, go on then, show me..."

For a passenger who buys the same ticket every day, then it's going to turn out just fine once they've learned where it is in the list. However, who buys the same ticket every day? Surely you buy a weekly ticket don't you? In which case, after a couple of weeks, you'll probably have memorised where your weekly ticket is in the list. But otherwise, you're going to be visiting very intermittently, and therefore not get the chance to learn the application, or you're going to be buying a variety of tickets over a period of months.

But how is the list ordered, and will it change?

Presumably, the list is ordered based on popularity of ticket; and I guess unless they start building new stations, this isn't going to change that much. But what if usability studies show the list ordering isn't working? Do they change it to enhance the intuativeness of the app, or do they keep it the same to encourage learning? But no! It's not based on popularity, it's alphabetical... which means it stops after the 16 or so items it can display on one screen! SO, what about Shepperton?? It's a popular destination, but it's not on the home screen.

So what?

Well, if the screen was designed better in the first place, allowing passengers to pick out their tickets quicker based on zero knowledge of the app, then future enhancements would be just that... enhancements!

The initial screen needs to support scanning, and people are looking either for a destination, a series of zones for a travelcard, or a duraion, for a season ticket.

Tickets should be grouped according to these, and a device (graphic or typographic) that allows these to be picked out quickly when scanning, should be employed.

It should also support more easy browsing of destinations and ticket types, rather than forcing people to type in and search for their destination.

So, after I've chosen a ticket?

Well, I waited for a while to work out what to do next.... I was staring at a screen that told me my ticket was £12.40 - I guess I need to pay then... put card in machine? No, that doesn't work...

Oh.. flashing yellow thing here, says 'touch to confirm' - ok, let's do that then.

What now? Screen appears to be the same, but no flashing yellow button. THe last time I tried to put my card in I ended up looking stupid, so I'm going to wait this time until it tells me.

But it's not! People behind me are getting impatient!

Finally, I see, in 8pt type, a message at the bottom in red, that says; "pay by card only" - it's not actually telling me to pay now, but I assume this is what it means... so let's try it. Now I notice the Visa symbols to the right,.. but the change was so subtle I didn't notice them appear.

What I discover later, is that the secondary LCD display on the card reader is actually asking me to insert my card... but of course, as we know, I can't see this. I wondered whether it was just me, as a 6ft2in tall bloke who this applied to, but as you'll see from the pics, I caught quite a few people having to stoop to see the keypad, let alone the display.

So, in short, it didn't serve me very well; and from a bit of guerilla ethnography in Waterloo this morning, it's not serving other passengers very well either.

The article does continue on the blog linked above detailing improvements that could be implemented into the system as a whole. As the article was written in 2006, in fact one or two of their suggestions have already been undertaken but still the underlying problems mentioned above persist.
 
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I have to agree with the above! It all seems very sensible!

I find the machines slow and confusing, and I (sort of ) know what I'm looking for! For anything but a simple, short journey, I would recommend not using any ticket machines!
 
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