XC HST's tomorrow

[ChrisTheRef]

Travelling on the 1412 service from BHM to PLY tomorrow.

Returning Saturday on the 1525.

Are these services HSTs or Voyagers?

 

[MCR247]

1412 should be 220/221 IIRC, 1313 is HST ex0632 from DEE
1525 on SAT is 220/221

 

[Mojo]

1412 from BHM is a 5 car Super Voyager, as posted above the 1525 should be a Voyager (don't know what kind). It's an HST Mon-Fri and departs at 1521.

 

[Bittern]

Do these XC HSTs ever run to/from Scotland anymore? I only see Voyagers now.

 

[ChrisTheRef]

I guess it depends where in Scotland. I know a few go to Dundee, and even more go to EDB

 

[Bittern]

They used to operate the 09:00 Glasgow Central - Penzance. That's how I saw them. Now that's purely Voyager operated.

 

[bengolding]

I've been on the 11:12 and 13:12 from New St to Bristol a few times recently during weekdays. Both are scheduled to be HSTs, and what a great improvement the spacious First Class is compared to the claustrophobic feel on the Voyager. Too bad there are no HSTs on the Manchester-Bournemouth route...

 

[Bayum]

They used to operate the 09:00 Glasgow Central - Penzance. That's how I saw them. Now that's purely Voyager operated.

I thought there was like, a few that went to Edinburgh at least - on the Plymouth - Edinburgh corridor... Cos that's where they needed the extra seating capacity most =/

 

[devon_metro]

1221/1321 Plymouth Edinburgh also 0632 Edinburgh Plymouth and there is another can't remember off top of by head

 

[MCR247]

0608 off Edinburgh may be the one your thinking of and 0632s from Dundee

 

[Bittern]

I thought there was like, a few that went to Edinburgh at least - on the Plymouth - Edinburgh corridor... Cos that's where they needed the extra seating capacity most =/

Can't tell you about Edinburgh. sorry. That's why I used an example from Glasgow.

 

[yorkie]

They used to operate the 09:00 Glasgow Central - Penzance. That's how I saw them. Now that's purely Voyager operated.

That was a Summer thing in 2008. I thought I'd missed the chance to do Scotland-Cornwall on Valentas years ago. I thought it was a wind-up when I saw the diagrams! So I can now say I've done the entire Glasgow-Penzance and Penzance-Dundee journeys on Valenta HSTs, including a 'dining' service of Pizza Express pizzas between York and Darlington courtesy of Max. Will it happen again? Maybe, but it won't be the same with hard seats and MTUs.

 

[Bittern]

They were running up here until late 2008/early 2009. I'm in Glasgow most mornings and I used to see them, but now only the Voyagers.

 

[yorkie]

1V58 hasn't been in a weekday diagram for HSTs since Summer 2008 (Fridays only I think? Positioning move for it to do Plymouth-Newquay-Newcastle on the Saturday), I'm pretty sure. However weekends are different, and a HST did operate that service on Sat 12 Sept and Sat 26 Sept, and possibly other Saturdays.

 

[Bittern]

Well, I'm talking Monday - Friday.

 

[jamesontheroad]

Travelling on the 1412 service from BHM to PLY tomorrow.

Returning Saturday on the 1525.

Are these services HSTs or Voyagers?

From http://www.125group.org.uk/diagrams-AXC.pdf

© 125 Group 2009

17 May 2009 – 12 December 2009

MONDAYS TO FRIDAYS

XC801 1V44 0600 LDS-PLY, 1S51 1221 PLY-GLC, 5S51 22+40 GLC-EC.
XC802 5V39 04+41 EC-DEE, 1V54 0632 DEE-PLY, 1E73 1721 PLY-LDS.
XC803 5V46 05+14 NL-YRK, 1V46 0632 YRK-PLY, 1S55 1321 PLY-EDB.
XC804 1V50 0608 EDB-PLY, 1E63 15:21 PLY-LDS.

FRIDAYS ONLY

XC805 1V64 1307 EDB-PLY.

SATURDAYS

XC801 1V44 0600 LDS-PLY, 1S51 1221 PLY-GLC.
XC802 5V54 05+08 EC-GLC, 1V54 0700 GLC-NQY, 2P86 1958 NQY-PLY.
XC803 (Formed of NXEC HST on 23/05 & 30/05 also from 04/07 to 05/09. Formed of XC HST on all other Saturdays.) 5V45 05+13 NL-MAN, 1V45 0700 MAN-NQY, 1M70 1520 NQY-MAN, 5E70 23+07 MAN-NL.
XC804 5V48 04+18 EC-NCL, 1V48 0642 NCL-PNZ, 1E75 1625 PNZ-LDS.
XC805 2N00 0630 PLY-NQY, 1S47 0930 NQY-DEE, 5S47 22+02 DEE-EC.
XC806 (Formed of XC HST on 23/05 & 30/05 also from 04/07 to 05/09. Formed of XC class 220/221 unit on all other Saturdays.) 5V47 06+XX NL-MAN, 1V47 0800 MAN-PGN, 1M93 1347 PGN-MAN, 5E93 19+XX MAN-NL.

Booked workings vary from week to week depending upon engineering work.

SATURDAYS

XC801 1V48 0810 LDS-PLY, 1S59 1421 PLY-EDB.
XC802 1V56 0850 EDB-PLY, 1E75 1821 PLY-LDS.
XC803 1V50 0900 LDS-PLY, 1E63 1521 PLY-YRK, 5E63 21+42 YRK-LDS.
XC804 2C64 0905 PLY-NQY, 1S55 1130 NQY-EDB.

Note that these are the normal booked diagrams, but can be subject to alteration at any time for operational reasons. Headcodes beginning with ‘5’ are empty coaching stock (ECS) workings which are only shown where they are greater than 6 miles.

KEY
DEE - Dundee
EC - Edinburgh Craigentinny Depot
EDB - Edinburgh
GLC - Glasgow Central
LDS - Leeds
MAN - Manchester Piccadilly
NL - Leeds Neville Hill Depot
NQY - Newquay
PGN - Paignton
PLY - Plymouth
PNZ - Penzance
YRK - York

Any views or opinions expressed in this document are not necessarily those of the 125 Group, or any of the train operating companies mentioned (to which the 125 Group and therefore this publication have no links whatsoever).

The 125 Group accepts no liability for inaccuracies, incomplete, ambiguous or incorrect information in any of its output, however
so caused.