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Firstly, I'm new here so hi everyone!

So I am currently unemployed and looking for work experience on the railway of some kind, my local station is owned by South West Trains but I'm unsure how to approach them about it.

Wondering really if anyone has any advice etc?

Thank you
 
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Firstly, I'm new here so hi everyone!

So I am currently unemployed and looking for work experience on the railway of some kind, my local station is owned by South West Trains but I'm unsure how to approach them about it.

Wondering really if anyone has any advice etc?

Thank you

Contact their HR team for work experience. Although you mention being unemployed so is it more a job you're looking for? Just keep an eye on their careers website in that case.
 
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Contact their HR team for work experience. Although you mention being unemployed so is it more a job you're looking for? Just keep an eye on their careers website in that case.

I am also looking for a job yes, but the Job Centre are kind of hounding me and I really want to get them of my back. I'm also very much tired of not doing anything meaningful everyday and would love to do anything I find enjoyable. (the Job Centre are trying to get me to work in the Job Centre as work experience, no thank you)
 

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I am also looking for a job yes, but the Job Centre are kind of hounding me and I really want to get them of my back. I'm also very much tired of not doing anything meaningful everyday and would love to do anything I find enjoyable. (the Job Centre are trying to get me to work in the Job Centre as work experience, no thank you)

If you are looking to get into the rail industry, like I am, then it should be a passion of yours to do so, rather than some after thought to get the job centre off your back.

There is a lot of competition for every job that arises on the railway, so unless you are 100% committed to giving it your all, there will be other's that would take that opportunity by putting maximum effort in.

If you are willing to put everything into your passion, and have an inner drive and a willingness to improve every day as an employee, then I wish you good luck.
 
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If you are looking to get into the rail industry, like I am, then it should be a passion of yours to do so, rather than some after thought to get the job centre off your back.

There is a lot of competition for every job that arises on the railway, so unless you are 100% committed to giving it your all, there will be other's that would take that opportunity by putting maximum effort in.

If you are willing to put everything into your passion, then I wish you good luck.

It is a passion, I'm sorry if it made it seem like it wasn't. I had a feeling when I wrote that it would come across that way but I couldn't think of anything else to put at the time. It certainly isn't something I'm looking to do to just get them off my back, I have been interested in the railway for the past 6 years when I found out my uncle used to work on the railway in the 1960s. Since then he introduced me to Train Simulators and I have been passionate ever since.

Now I have decided that I'd like to try and get into the profession too.
 

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It is a passion, I'm sorry if it made it seem like it wasn't. I had a feeling when I wrote that it would come across that way but I couldn't think of anything else to put at the time. It certainly isn't something I'm looking to do to just get them off my back, I have been interested in the railway for the past 6 years when I found out my uncle used to work on the railway in the 1960s. Since then he introduced me to Train Simulators and I have been passionate ever since.


Now I have decided that I'd like to try and get into the profession too.

The big advantage for the likes of me and you nowadays is, that due to government pressure, the train operating companies are recruiting externally.

Maybe look at your local train operating company, and enquire if they are likely to be looking for trainee train drivers any time soon?

Good luck what ever path you choose.
 

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We had a couple of unemployed lads doing job placement with us a few months ago who got sent from the job centre. No idea how they got the positions though, neither of them were rail enthusiasts though and both found out about the positions through the job centre, so they are out there.

Have you asked at the job centre if they know of any railways work experience placements?
 

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If you're willing to commute to London I wouldn't assume they won't consider your application, you have to be in it to win it, I don't think they'd consider you for safety critical if you live outside their boundary but all other work is fair game as long as you can commit to shift work
 
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We had a couple of unemployed lads doing job placement with us a few months ago who got sent from the job centre. No idea how they got the positions though, neither of them were rail enthusiasts though and both found out about the positions through the job centre, so they are out there.

Have you asked at the job centre if they know of any railways work experience placements?

Not yet, I go back tomorrow so will ask. I'm not expecting them to be much help though. Perhaps I'll ask to speak to the person in charge of work experience placements.
 

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Not yet, I go back tomorrow so will ask. I'm not expecting them to be much help though. Perhaps I'll ask to speak to the person in charge of work experience placements.

No harm in asking. Not sure if all TOCs/areas will do it, but they might have an idea if any TOCs in your area have ever offered work placement before. Also I'd give it a shot emailing your local TOCs, see if they have offered it before. I wouldn't hold my breath for a reply but again no harm in trying.

Hope you find something. I remember being on job seekers allowance seven years ago for 8 eight months. Hated it. They were organising for me to do a work placement with the local council in their parks department (which I had requested at the time), but just as it was being arranged I got offered a job on the railways so never had to do the work placement.
 
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No harm in asking. Not sure if all TOCs/areas will do it, but they might have an idea if any TOCs in your area have ever offered work placement before. Also I'd give it a shot emailing your local TOCs, see if they have offered it before. I wouldn't hold my breath for a reply but again no harm in trying.

Hope you find something. I remember being on job seekers allowance seven years ago for 8 eight months. Hated it. They were organising for me to do a work placement with the local council in their parks department (which I had requested at the time), but just as it was being arranged I got offered a job on the railways so never had to do the work placement.

Well after asking the job centre they said I need to make contact and ask, if they say yes I need to ask for a contact to provide to the job centre apparently so they can set up the work experience. I have contacted SWT via Facebook yesterday, still awaiting a response though, should I contact them via their contact us page on the website too or just wait for a Facebook response? Someone said about contacting HR but I see no details for the HR department.

I also emailed Southern yesterday but still awaiting a response.

Finally I contacted GWR but unfortunately my closest GWR run station is about 150 miles away so I kind of gave up with that one.

Yep being on JSA is horrible, went on after I left college so 3 years ago. I'm just tired of being unemployed. I'm hoping to get lucky with this would be awesome to do something I'm passionate about, can only hope.
 
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Yep being on JSA is horrible, went on after I left college so 3 years ago. I'm just tired of being unemployed. I'm hoping to get lucky with this would be awesome to do something I'm passionate about, can only hope.

3 years on JSA yet you said this?

(the Job Centre are trying to get me to work in the Job Centre as work experience, no thank you)

To put it bluntly, you need to get something on your CV as a matter of urgency, whether that be what they suggested above, or do some voluntary work. Bearing in mind that customer service based roles are probably the main way into the industry, working volunteering somewhere would be a massive benefit.

The way the job market is these days, a 3 year employment gap is verging on unemployable for many hiring.
 
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Well after asking the job centre they said I need to make contact and ask, if they say yes I need to ask for a contact to provide to the job centre apparently so they can set up the work experience. I have contacted SWT via Facebook yesterday, still awaiting a response though, should I contact them via their contact us page on the website too or just wait for a Facebook response? Someone said about contacting HR but I see no details for the HR department.

I also emailed Southern yesterday but still awaiting a response.

Finally I contacted GWR but unfortunately my closest GWR run station is about 150 miles away so I kind of gave up with that one.

Yep being on JSA is horrible, went on after I left college so 3 years ago. I'm just tired of being unemployed. I'm hoping to get lucky with this would be awesome to do something I'm passionate about, can only hope.

Three years is a long space on your CV. I don't want to assume you sit around around on your x-box all day doing nothing much else. But with out any work experience, your application form will look quite blank, and you'll struggle to answer many of the questions in an interview.

Get yourself to the local homeless shelter, see if they need any volunteers. Interaction with the people there could almost be seen as customer service. If you can get trained up in the kitchen there you'll have examples of following rules and regulations in the kitchen. If you volunteer on the evening and at night times, you'll have experience of doing sort of shift work. Then the types of people you'll get there, you might get to experience other situations that will reflect well on a job application (emergency situation, dealing with irate people (customers) and so on). Plus they might put you on courses, such as health and safety, food hygiene, first aid. It all looks good.

Plus you'll get to help a worthy course too.

As I said, I'm sure you already do stuff with your free time, just thinking of other ways you might improve your employability.
 
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Three years is a long space on your CV. I don't want to assume you sit around around on your x-box all day doing nothing much else. But with out any work experience, your application form will look quite blank, and you'll struggle to answer many of the questions in an interview.

Get yourself to the local homeless shelter, see if they need any volunteers. Interaction with the people there could almost be seen as customer service. If you can get trained up in the kitchen there you'll have examples of following rules and regulations in the kitchen. If you volunteer on the evening and at night times, you'll have experience of doing sort of shift work. Then the types of people you'll get there, you might get to experience other situations that will reflect well on a job application (emergency situation, dealing with irate people (customers) and so on). Plus they might put you on courses, such as health and safety, food hygiene, first aid. It all looks good.

Plus you'll get to help a worthy course too.

As I said, I'm sure you already do stuff with your free time, just thinking of other ways you might improve your employability.

I have done a lot in the 3 year gap, including 2 other work experience placements (a computer repair shop and a supermarket) and various courses. I actually completed a health and safety qualification while I was in college too.
 

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Unfortunately the railway hugely values life experience. And having a 3 year unemployment gap will do nothing to help you at all.

Like many long term unemployed, you want to cherry pick your dream job. Well, suck it up buttercup, you can't just walk in to it. You have to be prepared to do anything to get working. Whatever the job, whatever the industry. That is how it is.

A couple of courses and work placements in 3 years still leaves a lot of gaps in your CV.
 

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I have done a lot in the 3 year gap, including 2 other work experience placements (a computer repair shop and a supermarket) and various courses. I actually completed a health and safety qualification while I was in college too.

All experience is good, don't get me wrong there. But don't forget when you come to apply for jobs on the railways you'll be up against a number people from all sorts of backgrounds. The latest intake of drivers our place has taken on have have included two lads who served in the Armed Forces, including tours of Afghanistan and Iraq.

I've not spoke to them about their time in the armed forces, but I should imagine their CV's looked very attractive with what they may have experienced out there, and probably had very good examples of times when they had to deal with emergency situations, problem solved, worked as part of a team and had to communicate safety critical messages.

Now, I'm not saying you have to join the forces to be in with a chance with a job on the railways (I was never in the forces), just trying to set an example of when you do apply for roles on the railways (and jobs in general), what competition you'll be up against, and what experience other people will have.

When I was unemployed I spent three months volunteering at a charity helping renovate the building they had. It kept me active and motivated, but what I feel was more important was that when it came to explaining the six month gap on my CV, I had evidence that I had not been sat around being lazy, but I spent time learning new skills and contributing to the community. It all gives a positive image of the person the company are looking t employ (think I'm going off on a rant and missing the point now!)
 
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Unfortunately the railway hugely values life experience. And having a 3 year unemployment gap will do nothing to help you at all.

Like many long term unemployed, you want to cherry pick your dream job. Well, suck it up buttercup, you can't just walk in to it. You have to be prepared to do anything to get working. Whatever the job, whatever the industry. That is how it is.

A couple of courses and work placements in 3 years still leaves a lot of gaps in your CV.

I think you are being a little unfair there, I came here purely asking about work experience, I didn't come here saying "I want to drive trains and if I can't do that I'm not doing anything else". I would be lying however if I was to say it isn't what I want to do. This was never my dream job, I spent 4 years in college studying to be an IT Technician, then I left in late 2013 and have gotten absolutely nowhere since despite having a Level 3 BTEC.

My uncle worked on the railway in the 1960s, he used to work in the depot shunting trains and also worked on the platform dispatching trains and offering customer service. 6 years ago he introduced me to Train Simulators and ever since then I have been fascinated. The whole idea to try and get some work experience on the railway is to see what it is like in the real world, see if it is an alternative career path I would like to travel down.


All experience is good, don't get me wrong there. But don't forget when you come to apply for jobs on the railways you'll be up against a number people from all sorts of backgrounds. The latest intake of drivers our place has taken on have have included two lads who served in the Armed Forces, including tours of Afghanistan and Iraq.

I've not spoke to them about their time in the armed forces, but I should imagine their CV's looked very attractive with what they may have experienced out there, and probably had very good examples of times when they had to deal with emergency situations, problem solved, worked as part of a team and had to communicate safety critical messages.

Now, I'm not saying you have to join the forces to be in with a chance with a job on the railways (I was never in the forces), just trying to set an example of when you do apply for roles on the railways (and jobs in general), what competition you'll be up against, and what experience other people will have.

When I was unemployed I spent three months volunteering at a charity helping renovate the building they had. It kept me active and motivated, but what I feel was more important was that when it came to explaining the six month gap on my CV, I had evidence that I had not been sat around being lazy, but I spent time learning new skills and contributing to the community. It all gives a positive image of the person the company are looking t employ (think I'm going off on a rant and missing the point now!)

I completely understand where you are coming from, I'm sorry, I guess I'm jumping the gun or something.

Had an email reply from SWT today, they told me to ask at my local station if they would offer me work experience, although I feel like I made a mistake coming here or asking about it anyway as I feel people seem to have reacted negatively. So, I'm sorry everyone.
 

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I think you are being a little unfair there, I came here purely asking about work experience, I didn't come here saying "I want to drive trains and if I can't do that I'm not doing anything else". I would be lying however if I was to say it isn't what I want to do. This was never my dream job, I spent 4 years in college studying to be an IT Technician, then I left in late 2013 and have gotten absolutely nowhere since despite having a Level 3 BTEC.

My uncle worked on the railway in the 1960s, he used to work in the depot shunting trains and also worked on the platform dispatching trains and offering customer service. 6 years ago he introduced me to Train Simulators and ever since then I have been fascinated. The whole idea to try and get some work experience on the railway is to see what it is like in the real world, see if it is an alternative career path I would like to travel down.




I completely understand where you are coming from, I'm sorry, I guess I'm jumping the gun or something.

Had an email reply from SWT today, they told me to ask at my local station if they would offer me work experience, although I feel like I made a mistake coming here or asking about it anyway as I feel people seem to have reacted negatively. So, I'm sorry everyone.

Don't be sorry, its a good place to ask for advice on here. I didn't want to come across harsh, just want you to realise the kind of competition you will be up against when your'e applying for jobs, and hope to give you some pointers to help you get the right experience.

Certainly get in touch with all your local stations though, worse they can do is say no.
 
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Don't be sorry, its a good place to ask for advice on here. I didn't want to come across harsh, just want you to realise the kind of competition you will be up against when your'e applying for jobs, and hope to give you some pointers to help you get the right experience.

Certainly get in touch with all your local stations though, worse they can do is say no.

It's alright I appreciate everything you've said and thank you.

I have been looking on the SWT website and found this vacancy which isn't too far from me.

https://www.southwesttrains.co.uk/j...B6G79QWAJ&Resultsperpage=10&lg=UK&mask=swtext

If you don't mind me asking, do you work for SWT? If so, do you know what the recruitment process would be like for this role? Honestly, if I can make a career on the railway I'd like to work my way up from the low end to a driver role eventually, afterall I am only 25. If I were to make it as a driver then as I came towards the end of my career I would love to train other rookie drivers. (anyway I'm dreaming and rambling so I'll shut up now!)
 

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Apply for it, I'm not sure what the recruitment process would be like, in my experience TOC's seem to change their recruitment process quite regularly and it can very between different companies.

I stated as an on board customer service assistant seven years ago, did that for a year, guard for three years and been a driver since. I was also unemployed when I first joined the railway.

When I first joined I had no desire to be a driver though, just wanted a job that paid me some sort of wage. When I left my job as a customer service assistant my manager told me the reason she took me on was because she could see I had the desire and potential to progress in my career, and was sad that I couldn't do it at that company and was sad to see me leave for a job as a conductor with another company. Try get that across in your application, that you want to progress your career, but don't sound too desperate in wanting to become a driver (train drivers aren't the be all and end all on the railways, theres plenty of career routes).

Worst is, if you don't get the job, at least you will have had experience in applying for a job on the railways, and if you get an interview you'll have more of an idea of what to expect in future interviews too.
 
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Apply for it, I'm not sure what the recruitment process would be like, in my experience TOC's seem to change their recruitment process quite regularly and it can very between different companies.

I stated as an on board customer service assistant seven years ago, did that for a year, guard for three years and been a driver since. I was also unemployed when I first joined the railway.

When I first joined I had no desire to be a driver though, just wanted a job that paid me some sort of wage. When I left my job as a customer service assistant my manager told me the reason she took me on was because she could see I had the desire and potential to progress in my career, and was sad that I couldn't do it at that company and was sad to see me leave for a job as a conductor with another company. Try get that across in your application, that you want to progress your career, but don't sound too desperate in wanting to become a driver (train drivers aren't the be all and end all on the railways, theres plenty of career routes).

Worst is, if you don't get the job, at least you will have had experience in applying for a job on the railways, and if you get an interview you'll have more of an idea of what to expect in future interviews too.

I've noticed this one pop up today.

https://www.southwesttrains.co.uk/j...B6G79QWAJ&Resultsperpage=10&lg=UK&mask=swtext

Is there much difference between the two? The descriptions seem pretty similar.
 
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