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Another aside; I changed trains at Worcestershire Parkway a couple of weeks ago and was astonished to find that there is no heated waiting area at the station, at all. Not good on a cold day with a longer wait than expected thanks to an XC cancellation!
Sadly, the BR steam days of having coal fires in all the available rooms and enough staff available to keep them going have long gone! Ticket offices, parcels and assorted freight, including a lot of coal for local distribution, as well as that for station use, are but a memory - very much the case for the majority of stations. I digress!
 
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Another aside; I changed trains at Worcestershire Parkway a couple of weeks ago and was astonished to find that there is no heated waiting area at the station, at all. Not good on a cold day with a longer wait than expected thanks to an XC cancellation!
Pro Tip: The 2 toilets opposite the ticket office by the main entrance are always really warm, as each of them has a big radiator in which always seems to be on full blast.
 

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A small retail space was included in the station building (on the left as you go in) but wasn't occupied when the station opened and covid killed it I guess. I'm not sure what the space is used for now.
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Imagine shows the design plans of the ground floor level at Worcestershire parkway, taken from Worcestershire County Council planning application ref 15/000007/REG3
 

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Surely most would be looking at Birmingham or Bristol for employment rather than London?

Also can trains run to Worcester Parkway (GW platform) and then run back towards Shrub Hill thence to Birmingham?
I looked at all the stations around Oxford and the stations on the Cotswold line have the highest passenger numbers in the area without half hourly service.
 
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A small retail space was included in the station building (on the left as you go in) but wasn't occupied when the station opened and covid killed it I guess. I'm not sure what the space is used for now.
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Imagine shows the design plans of the ground floor level at Worcestershire parkway, taken from Worcestershire County Council planning application ref 15/000007/REG3
Interesting that it shows ticket barriers on the original plan as well. The station has never had any.
 

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Interesting that it shows ticket barriers on the original plan as well. The station has never had any.
I had never appreciated this was featured in the original plans either. Of course there may be a difference between providing provision for them and actually planning to install them, but I wonder at what stage these were dropped from the plan.

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Another aside; I changed trains at Worcestershire Parkway a couple of weeks ago and was astonished to find that there is no heated waiting area at the station, at all. Not good on a cold day with a longer wait than expected thanks to an XC cancellation!
If one wanted to make a warm waiting area, I would imagine the easiest place would be in the area behind/under the staircase leading up from the concourse level, where the piano currently sits. If you fill the gaps either side of the staircase with glass and doors, there's a room that could quite easily be heated.
 

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No heated waiting area

I asked at the ticket office about this and was told it was a Council stipulation to make the station carbon neutral!

The 2 toilets opposite the ticket office by the main entrance are always really warm

Indeed, but I thought remaining in one until my connection was due would not be the right thing to do.....
 

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It'll be a whole lot more depressing if this blight of additional urban sprawl goes ahead. The M5 is a natural boundary to the concrete cancer and they should not be trying to cross it.
Presumably you sleep in a field, or is it only houses for other people that you regard as ‘concrete cancer’?
 

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If one wanted to make a warm waiting area, I would imagine the easiest place would be in the area behind/under the staircase leading up from the concourse level, where the piano currently sits

Or set up a waiting room in the empty space not used by the retail outlet and gate staff accommodation…
 

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Surely most would be looking at Birmingham or Bristol for employment rather than London?

Also can trains run to Worcester Parkway (GW platform) and then run back towards Shrub Hill thence to Birmingham?
Plenty of people use Cotswold Line trains to get into Oxford (or connect for Culham and Didcot) and Reading for work - and for other reasons.

The current signalling arrangements would only allow a train to turn back in the high level platform if nothing else is on the line between Norton Junction and Evesham West Junction - ie it would be the only train allowed in the section while making such a manoeuvre.

You are making the assumption that everyone in Worcester has access to a car, or is willing to pay extra for a taxi.

You are also ignoring the point that this might be good for the more affluent residents of Worcester, but focusing on the Parkway creates a "Ryanair station" for inward visitors so brings little in the way of local prosperity.

It's fair enough as far as it goes, but the central Worcester stations need to continue to have a good service rather than trying to send everything to the Parkway.
Could you inform us who is 'trying to send everything to the Parkway'? Last time I looked there were plenty of trains in and out of Worcester Shrub Hill and Foregate Street in all directions. Indeed, there are more services at both stations than prior to the opening of the Parkway station, due to GWR and WMR timetable improvements.

Neither station is that convenient for large swathes of the city - and surrounding communities - where it is easier and quicker to drive to Parkway via the bypass to access the rail network than bothering to battle the limitations of the city centre roads and the resulting congestion to reach WOF or WOS. It was not unknown for people to drive all the way from Worcester to Birmingham International or Warwick Parkway to get trains to London in the past due to these issues and the tiny car park at Shrub Hill.

You said it serves Worcester very well full stop.

Do you have any evidence that a lot of passengers change there? Given the low frequency of calls on both routes and the lack of facilities if stuck there for some time, it seems unlikely to me. If the connections work it does provide some extra opportunities from the Cotswold Line.

In principle it's a good idea to put a new town around a rail interchange, attracting passengers onto rail and maybe even justifying a bus service into Worcester that would provide more opportunity for Worcester people and visitors to use the Parkway station. I can't speak for any local factors that may make this site better or worse for housing.
Let's look at the ORR station usage data.

The newly-released 2024-25 dataset says there were 133,875 interchanges at Worcestershire Parkway. Given that GWR-set fares from Cotswold Line stations are valid to the likes of Cardiff via either Worceetershire Parkway or Didcot Parkway, the actual figure could be higher then the ORR estimate. i visited Wales just the other week, going out via Didcot and back via Worcestershire Parkway.

Low frequency of calls on both routes? Well it's already better (and with a greater choice of destinations served direct) than it was at the start of this year and these are long-distance routes, not commuter-land with a steady stream of trains at close intervals. In a typical hour at the moment, six passenger trains call at the station. Even if the XC trains that currently speed past stopped and the Cotswold Line were improved to allow a 30-minute interval service, that figure would go up to all of 10tph.

Yes, although Worcestershire Parkway is an excellent interchange for the Cotswolds Line coming from the Midlands, the station facilities are dismal. No heated waiting area, no retail outlets, just one toilet and no pub within walking distance if you have, say, a 30 minute wait. I wonder if there's the possibility of someone opening a micropub there?
It's also an excellent interchange for people travelling between the Cotswold Line and South Wales, Bristol and beyond - and given the tailbacks and delays caused by major roadworks on the A417 dualling project between Gloucester and Birdlip, some journeys by rail via WOP from places served by Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh stations are currently competitive time-wise with driving across the Cotswolds to Gloucester.

If the trains are behaving, pretty much all connections between the XC route in both directions and the Cotswold Line at Worcesterhsire Parkway are less than 20 minutes and most much less than that - some are pretty much 'get off one train, walk though the station and get straight on the connecting service', assuming XC and GWR are running to time...

The waiting facilities certainly leave something to be desired - the Cotswold Line Promotion Group, among others, is trying to change that - buit it's not a Victorian junction out in the fields, where a Railway Tavern offered a handy spot to while away the time between a sketchy train service.
 

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Could you inform us who is 'trying to send everything to the Parkway'?
This was not my suggestion. The post you quoted was challenging a view that the Parkway served Worcester well.
The newly-released 2024-25 dataset says there were 133,875 interchanges at Worcestershire Parkway.
Is this all genuine interchanges or does it include split tickets?
 

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This was not my suggestion. The post you quoted was challenging a view that the Parkway served Worcester well.

Is this all genuine interchanges or does it include split tickets?

The post I quoted is yours, with your name on it.

Surely it was obvious that what I wrote was in response to this line at the end, which does not appear to refer to anything that ep09 had said in the post that you had quoted.

the central Worcester stations need to continue to have a good service rather than trying to send everything to the Parkway.

And to be clear, I agree with the points that ep-09 was making in relation to the value of the Parkway station - and the well-known issues with Foregate Street and Shrub Hill and the limitatons of the track layout and signalling in central Worcester - and have been saying much the same on this forum for years.

The methods ORR uses are pretty opaque, so who knows when it comes to split tickets - sometimes the splitting sites will throw up splits at Cheltenham Spa, rather than Worcestershire Parkway, if asked for journeys to/from the Cotswold Line or suggest journeys with changes at both WOP and Cheltenham. This sort of thing is just one of the reasons why I said the real figure for interchanges may be higher.
 

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Outline planning for 5500 homes at Worcestershire Parkway, now known as Wychavon Town

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Plans for 5,500 homes at Wychavon Town move forward​

Homes England and Summix have confirmed that two outline planning applications for Wychavon Town have been validated by Wychavon District Council. The applications relate to the proposed new settlement, covering the town centre and a southern neighbourhood.

Validation allows the applications to be formally considered by the Council and marks the start of the statutory consultation process with statutory consultees and the public.

The proposals seek consent for up to 5,500 homes alongside a purpose-built town centre, employment and mixed-use development, education and healthcare facilities, green and blue infrastructure, and integrated transport and active travel connections. It forms a significant part of the proposed allocation for 10,000 homes in the South Worcestershire Development Plan Review.

 

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Outline planning for 5500 homes at Worcestershire Parkway, now known as Wychavon Town



Only to be expected following the infrastructure improvements; a nd a lovely place for 15,000 new residents to live, and travel from. Excellent news.
 

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Surely, Worcestershire Parkway would be an ideal location for a new ‘railway’ hotel - which would also serve car based travellers?

For those not using a car, the range of places of tourist interest that could be reach on day trips by train from this location is massive.

I find it incredible that no heated waiting room exists at this station - especially given that it is an important interchange.

This planned new town would be better if it had a centre built to resemble the best local architecture. Same goes for the housing areas - and bigger gardens would be welcome rather than a load of jammed together boxes.
 

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Only to be expected following the infrastructure improvements; a nd a lovely place for 15,000 new residents to live, and travel from. Excellent news.
Just had a quick look at the plans (Wychavon Council W/25/02813/OUT)
and it is to south east of the railway (towards Stoulton) with houses nearer the station, what appears to be large school alongside railway near south junction, with some bigger buildings near site centre, and then more houses further south that go as far as the lane that runs east-west. There also appears to be houses and sports grounds north of Stoulton up to the railway. A small strip around Stoulton village seems to be retained undeveloped.

Outline application 2/25/02314/OUT is for north east of the railway, all the fields from Pershore Road towards Hucknell Abbey (but excluding the Hucknell Abbey area).

I suspect Worcestershire Parkway station will need lot more cycle spaces and car parking if it is going to serve this properly
 

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Surely, Worcestershire Parkway would be an ideal location for a new ‘railway’ hotel - which would also serve car based travellers?

For those not using a car, the range of places of tourist interest that could be reach on day trips by train from this location is massive.

I find it incredible that no heated waiting room exists at this station - especially given that it is an important interchange.

This planned new town would be better if it had a centre built to resemble the best local architecture. Same goes for the housing areas - and bigger gardens would be welcome rather than a load of jammed together boxes.
More money if you pack them in, as for a "railway" hotel. If the likes of Premier Inn/Traveldoge/Holiday Inn see an opportunity they will probably build something.
 
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