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Woking -> Reading -> London Paddington

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horizonflame

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Hi

Looking to make this journey before 9am next Tuesday. I have a meeting in Reading before continuing to London. Best I've found so far...

Woking -> Blackwater via Guildford £6.10 Anytime Day Single
Blackwater -> Paddington £14.90 Y-P Anytime Day Single

Total £21.00

Any cheaper / alt route suggestions appreciated.

Thanks :)
 
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There are some loophole tickets, but they may not operate the barriers at Reading and/or Paddington. Are you interests in such things?
 

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In that case you can consider

Longcross - Sandhurst SDR at £7.80

RPs:

Longcross - Ascot, Staines, Surbiton, Woking
Sandhurst - Guildford, Wokingham

The routeing points we will use are:

Woking (origin RP)
Wokingham (destination RP)

and the relevant fares check:
Longcross - Sandhurst SDS £7.10
Woking - Sandhurst SDS £6.70
Longcross - Wokingham SDS £5.20

showing both RPs are valid.

Mapped routes Woking - Wokingham:

LONDON PD+CS WV WW

The shortest route from Longcross - Woking is:

Longcross 0
Virginia Water 2
Chertsey 4.5
Addlestone 6
Weybridge 7.75
Byfleet & New Haw 9.25
West Byfleet 10.5
Woking 13.25

potentially also

Longcross 0
Virginia Water 1.95
Chertsey 4.45
Addlestone 5.88
Byfleet & New Haw 7.83
West Byfleet 9.11
Woking 11.77

From Wokingham - Sandhurst

Wokingham 0
Crowthorne 3.25
Sandhurst (Berks) 4.75

Outbound therefore:

Longcross - Addlestone - Woking
then
(start short at)
Woking - Guildford on map PD
Guildford - Sandhurst on map CS

All trains from Guildford to Reading between 06:13 and 08:13 inclusive call at Sandhurst. Subsequently the calling pattern is more patchy, check your chosen trains.

Using the return portion of the ticket, we will use route LONDON from Wokingham

Wokingham London Group CS+WR WV WW WX

hence
Sandhurst - Wokingham

then Wokingham - Reading - Paddington using maps CS+WR
breaking our journey at Paddington
We nominally cross London on foot/bicycle/taxi/whatever, returning to Longcross via Waterloo to Weybridge (to avoid doubling back) and then Weybridge to Virginia Water, Virginia Water to Longcross.

For 50p more you can avoid the issue of fares checks, patchy calling patterns at Sandhurst (arguably Longcross), the RG error for Longcross RPs (should be Weybridge Group in the new RG), and just buy Woking - Wokingham SDR at £8.30
 

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I'm not sure why 'Glynn Magheramorne' chose to post that on twitter. He would get a more sensible answer posting to this thread!

Full discussion here:

https://twitter.com/Chinley1234/status/399955365611061248

It just shows IMO the effective irrelevance of the NRG, given the ill-informed answers from two differen official TOC spokespersons:

"You can travel via London, but only Waterloo. The only valid route via Reading includes the Heathrow RailAir bus links. Dan"

"That is correct, you cannot travel Via Reading and London Paddington. It has to be Waterloo only. JamesF"

Heathrow RailAir bus links??? I'll try that next time, will save me a fortune on that overpriced NX coach to Heathrow.
 

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I'm on the FGW stopper to Guildford now. I don't have time for an argument at Reading but I shall at Paddington armed with my maps!
 

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I'm on the FGW stopper to Guildford now. I don't have time for an argument at Reading but I shall at Paddington armed with my maps!
Good luck.

Last time I saw someone try a loophole ticket at Paddington, it resulted in some heavy treatment and an allegation by the gateline staff that a key witness was in posession of a gun.

So be careful - some of them try to intimidate. Don't rise to it, and be extremely calm. Ensure everything is logged and be careful to protect yourself against false allegations.

I am not in any way suggesting all gateline staff at Paddington are like that - far from it, some are very nice - but if there's one or two out there who are up to no good, you need to take appropriate precations and safeguards, just as staff have to protect themselves against a minority of passengers.
 

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Good luck.

Last time I saw someone try a loophole ticket at Paddington, it resulted in some heavy treatment and an allegation by the gateline staff that a key witness was in posession of a gun.

So be careful - some of them try to intimidate. Don't rise to it, and be extremely calm. Ensure everything is logged and be careful to protect yourself against false allegations.

I am not in any way suggesting all gateline staff at Paddington are like that - far from it, some are very nice - but if there's one or two out there who are up to no good, you need to take appropriate precations and safeguards, just as staff have to protect themselves against a minority of passengers.

No problem - the moment they started getting heavy I would dial 999 myself!
 

horizonflame

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Error code 125 at Reading but let through at Gateline without issue. I'll report back on Paddington tonight.
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No problems being let back into Reading too
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Slightly confused... arrived on Platform 1 at Paddington and started walking down the platform and found myself on the concourse. No ticket barriers on that platform?

Anti-climatic given the mental preparation I done!
 

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Correct, no barriers on platform 1.
 
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