Yes, my biggest bugbear with the cab end livery treatment is the retention of that seemingly superfluous semi-circle of yellow at cantrail level. If you're attempting to largely dispense with yellow ends, why retain that bit? It's absent on the previously produced mock up.
Now that's already a great improvement, though personally I'd keep the yellow areas around the headlights tight to the current layout as seen on the LM livery.
Seems these trains don’t have the right headlights to not have yellow ends so they have to follow the old criteria which specifies a minimum area of yellow.
The Entire gangway should cover that requirement right? I thought it was a 1m by a 1m minimum?
The minimum required yellow area is one square metre, with a minimum dimension of 0.6m. It seems to me (without wandering down to Tyseley with a tape measure) that the yellow corridor connection ably fulfils this on its' own.
I like it as it is: The full body height logo in grey is clearly a separate livery element to the smaller logo incorporated into the insignia. It doesn't share, IMO, the same disjointed look the new Northern livery suffers from in displaying the logo in a prominent range of colours and sizes.
Somebody get Tinky Winky a liver transplant, that jaundice looks even worse in the flesh.
Hands down the worst livery in the privatisation era. Only the Freightliner Powerhaul livery comes close, but even that looks alright on the 70s it was designed for - it just looks like something I would have made in Trainz Paintshed when I was 11 when applied to older locomotives.
This... this is irredeemable.
I would imagine so: Other than the fact that it has a window band, a solebar level stripe (in a completely different colour, mind) and, umm...doors in the right sorts of places, which are always useful on a passenger train, there seems to be very little resemblance. Parallels with aspects of the XC and London Overground liveries seem more apt.
Yeah, there's been many. Facebook is a good place to find some - sorry can't link at the moment.
A good selection have been posted by Silverlinky here:
Obviously they don't have a monopoly; nobody was suggesting that, but its what I feel the livery is most reminiscent of due to the expanses of white combined with the orange doors.
