Will I be prosecuted if I walked off from inspector

[yhan]

So basically I tapped in with my oyster at a station but my card was short of money and I didn’t notice and had to catch the train cuz it was right there. And there was a train inspector on board and inspected my oyster, it shows that I have tapped in but with insufficient money. I didn’t give him my details when he asked for my postcode cuz I felt it was really unfair as I do tap in. And then my stop arrived I got off the train and he still had my Oyster card, my Oyster card was linked to my railcard. He also recorded me with his body camera. Now I regret so much I’m freaking out I should’ve just given him my details and get the fine cuz app this can be a criminal record but it was just the heat of the moment I just felt really unfair.

What’s gonna happen now would they have my details and fine me and give me a criminal record.

 

[gray1404]

There is nothing wrong with getting off at the station you were traveling to as you would have been overcarried otherwise. The inspector should have got off the train with you to complete things.

Is your Oyster card registered? That is what will determine if you can be traced.

 

[rmHawk765]

I may be wrong, but isn't there a 'debt' system where you can tap out with insufficient funds but not tap in? I am confused as to why it let you tap in, if you already had absolutely no funds on the card.

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The other important thing AIUI is whether this was a TfL service or not.

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Is your Oyster card registered? That is what will determine if you can be traced.

Presumably yes, as they said it is linked to a Railcard.

 

[Snow1964]

I may be wrong, but isn't there a 'debt' system where you can tap out with insufficient funds but not tap in? I am confused as to why it let you tap in, if you already had absolutely no funds on the card.

It won't open an entrance gate, but if station is ungated, then tapping on a reader is just noted.
From memory also shows a red light (or more precisely a tiny LED, that hardly shows up on a sunny day if reader is outside)

 

[yhan]

There is nothing wrong with getting off at the station you were traveling to as you would have been overcarried otherwise. The inspector should have got off the train with you to complete things.

Is your Oyster card registered? That is what will determine if you can be traced.

It was linked to my railcard. He just kept asking what was my postcode when I said I needed to get off and it was my stop, he said that doesn’t matter that I needed to get off. And I don’t really know what he did after I got off I was too scared to look back and whe I tried to go back and find him he wasn’t at the station

 

[rmHawk765]

From memory also shows a red light (or more precisely a tiny LED, that hardly shows up on a sunny day if reader is outside)

That does count as not tapping-in, and it also does the lower-pitched double beep which offsets the LED issue. If that's the case then they have not actually tapped in, no?

 

[gray1404]

You are quite entitled to leave the train and you informed him it was your stop so got off. No professional revenue inspector will ever have you be over carried. It does indeed matter that it was your stop and he had the option of getting off the train with you to complete his paperwork. You were not required to be over carried.

If you have not registered your Oyster card on the TfL website then hopefully you'll hear nothing further. When a Railcard is linked to an Oyster card they don't usually record the full rail card number either.

 

[z444z]

What was your destination and what line or service did you use? Was it a TfL inspector that stopped you?

 

[yhan]

You are quite entitled to leave the train and you informed him it was your stop so got off. No professional revenue inspector will ever have you be over carried. It does indeed matter that it was your stop and he had the option of getting off the train with you to complete his paperwork. You were not required to be over carried.

If you have not registered your Oyster card on the TfL website then hopefully you'll hear nothing further. When a Railcard is linked to an Oyster card they don't usually record the full rail card number

I linked my railcard at a tube station I’m not quite sure if it recorded full rail card number. I didn’t register the Oyster card defo except for linking it with my railcard as my mum acc found the Oyster card on a train and it was a visitor card we kept it cuz it was pretty lol

 

[Starmill]

I may be wrong, but isn't there a 'debt' system where you can tap out with insufficient funds but not tap in? I am confused as to why it let you tap in, if you already had absolutely no funds on the card.

It depends. Hypothetically the conditions require you to have adequate balance for your journey before you begin it. In practice if your touch on is accepted you'll be fine. There is an exception but it's specific to bus journeys where you are permitted to travel on one bus should your balance not be sufficient. This doesn't 'hop' however in my experience, which cost me £1.50 once. Customer service may have refunded the amount but I didn't ask them to as it was so obviously my own error that I'd touched on with a card that was at zero.

 

[yhan]

What was your destination and what line or service did you use? Was it a TfL inspector that stopped you?

It was a southeastern train within London and it wasn’t a TfL inspector it was a southeastern inspector

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I may be wrong, but isn't there a 'debt' system where you can tap out with insufficient funds but not tap in? I am confused as to why it let you tap in, if you already had absolutely no funds on the card.

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The other important thing AIUI is whether this was a TfL service or not.

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Presumably yes, as they said it is linked to a Railcard.

1 that’s the problem it didn’t actually let me tap in I believe that’s why he said I don’t hold a valid ticket as the tap in wasn’t successful.

2 no it wasn’t a TfL service it was a southeastern train line.

 

[gray1404]

How have you been topping up the card? Cash or bank card? If they looked at your travel history would there be any regular travel patterns that might make finding you easier?

 

[Sun Chariot]

Hello @yhan - your post 1 states:
"...I tapped in with my oyster at a station but my card was short of money ... And there was a train inspector on board and inspected my oyster"

But your post 9 states:
"I didn’t register the Oyster card ... as my mum acc found the Oyster card on a train and it was a visitor card we kept it..."

So, are you saying:
1) the Oyster card you used, was one your mum had found and which had cash value loaded onto it?
2) "my card was short of money": the Oyster card? Your bank payment card? Or another card?

 

[yhan]

How have you been topping up the card? Cash or bank card? If they looked at your travel history would there be any regular travel patterns that might make finding you easier?

I’ve been topping up with both cash and bank cards regularly at the two stations I travel from. And it’ll probably show my regular journey so might be quite easy to find idk

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Hello @yhan - your post 1 states:
"...I tapped in with my oyster at a station but my card was short of money ... And there was a train inspector on board and inspected my oyster"

But your post 9 states:
"I didn’t register the Oyster card ... as my mum acc found the Oyster card on a train and it was a visitor card we kept it..."

So, are you saying:
1) the Oyster card you used, was one your mum had found and which had cash value loaded onto it?
2) "my card was short of money": the Oyster card? Your bank payment card? Or another card?

No we found this Oyster card like ages ago I’ve been topping up the card. The Oyster card was short of money Yh cuz with bank cards even if it’s short it won’t get charged until the day after isn’t it

 

[AlterEgo]

They're not going to find you. Relax. TOCs can't audit bank transactions easily to find out who has been topping up an Oyster to prove who owes six pounds for an unpaid fare.

Get on with your life.

 

[Starmill]

When a Railcard is linked to an Oyster card they don't usually record the full rail card number either.

They may have recorded a name and a postcode, but for all practical purposes it is quite unlikely they'll be able to do anything with that even if they get it. Nothing here suggests that Southeastern are likely to be able to find the original poster.

Please can I suggest that the original poster takes care to ensure that they have enough balance on the Oyster cards from now on, and makes sure to receive a green light or a touch in message before boarding the train. A bus is almost always available if you want to keep travel costs low on a shorter journey anyway. Everything else is likely to be just fine if they do this.

 

[rmHawk765]

2 no it wasn’t a TfL service it was a southeastern train line.

In that case you likely have nothing to worry about.

 

[yhan]

They may have recorded a name and a postcode, but for all practical purposes it is quite unlikely they'll be able to do anything with that even if they get it. Nothing here suggests that Southeastern are likely to be able to find the original poster.

Please can I suggest that the original poster takes care to ensure that they have enough balance on the Oyster cards from now on, and makes sure to receive a green light or a touch in message before boarding the train. A bus is almost always available if you want to keep travel costs low on a shorter journey anyway. Everything else is likely to be just fine if they do this.

Will definitely do, only cause I just topped up and Thursday and didn’t travel yesterday so assumed I had enough money ☹️☹️

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In that case you likely have nothing to worry about.

How come?

 

[Starmill]

How come?

Because it is not likely that Southeastern have got enough information from you to find you. If they can't find your real name and address they won't do anything further. There is next to no chance that this is something the police would investigate.

So provided that you always ensure that you are travelling with a valid ticket from now on, they will have no further opportunity to connect these events to you. You should avoid boarding a train again unless you are certain you have a valid ticket or validated card.

 

[reb0118]

You are quite entitled to leave the train......

Although is the OP also entitled to not pay for their journey? It seems to me that the OP was using the usual fillibustering technique to avoid giving their details as required by law.

 

[yhan]

Although is the OP also entitled to not pay for their journey? It seems to me that the OP was using the usual fillibustering technique to avoid giving their details as required by law.

What technique

 

[gray1404]

Although is the OP also entitled to not pay for their journey? It seems to me that the OP was using the usual fillibustering technique to avoid giving their details as required by law.

I am saying that if an RPI is dealing with a passenger who reaches their destination then they should get off the train with the passenger to finish dealing with the matter. A passenger is not required to and should never be over carried just because the RPI has not finished dealing with them.

In fact in many cases the customer should make sure they are not over carried because this could give rise for another issue for them to be pulled up on if their ticket is only valid to said station.

 

[reb0118]

I am saying that if an RPI is dealing with a passenger who reaches their destination then they should get off the train with the passenger to finish dealing with the matter. A passenger is not required to and should never be over carried just because the RPI has not finished dealing with them.

In fact in many cases the customer should make sure they are not over carried because this could give rise for another issue for them to be pulled up on if their ticket is only valid to said station.

I get that. But you are probably over thinking the part about the inspector not caring about the passenger being overcarried. They, the inspecto,r is not causing this, but rather the passenger is probably wasting time to deliberately delay giving details until their stop to avoid further consequences.

I regularly get passengers telling me that "this is their stop" (sometimes even five or ten minutes away from the said stop) in the hope that they can get a free ride. I don't really care if it's their stop or not - if I deem there's enough time to obtain payment or details I will do so.

 

[gray1404]

I get that. But you are probably over thinking the part about the inspector not caring about the passenger being overcarried. They, the inspecto,r is not causing this, but rather the passenger is probably wasting time to deliberately delay giving details until their stop to avoid further consequences.

I regularly get passengers telling me that "this is their stop" (sometimes even five or ten minutes away from the said stop) in the hope that they can get a free ride. I don't really care if it's their stop or not - if I deem there's enough time to obtain payment or details I will do so.

I see what you mean there. I was focusing on the fact that the customer could finish the interaction when they get off the train. But if, like you say, of they are stalling for time and no intention of providing details then that's a different matter.

 

[MikeWh]

I may be wrong, but isn't there a 'debt' system where you can tap out with insufficient funds but not tap in?

When you touch in the system checks whether you have enough money for the cheapest possible journey from that station. If you need more because you're going further then the system will let you out with a negative balance, but you won't be able to make any further journeys until you top up. If you haven't got enough for the cheapest journey then your card isn't validated and you'll get two beeps, red light, and the gate won't open if it is a gate you're touching on.

A passenger is not required to and should never be over carried just because the RPI has not finished dealing with them.

Whilst I agree in principle, I would point out that you are only over-carried on an Oyster card if you leave the Oyster area.

as my mum acc found the Oyster card on a train and it was a visitor card we kept it cuz it was pretty lol

This bit doesn't quite add up. A visitor Oyster card cannot have a railcard discount applied to it, according to the TfL website.

 

[gray1404]

For the avoidance of doubt, I meant should never be over carried in terms of the customers intended station.