Wickford-Southminster service, 1910

[Big Jumby 74]

Hi all. I'm interested in the passenger service that applied (SX) as per the title in September 1910. I see from TTworld there is a Bradshaw listed that covers 1908-1911, which I am more than happy to purchase, but thought I'd pose the question here first, on the off chance anyone may already have the timetable/details for the time I am interested in?

TIA

 

[30907]

Hi all. I'm interested in the passenger service that applied (SX) as per the title in September 1910. I see from TTworld there is a Bradshaw listed that covers 1908-1911, which I am more than happy to purchase, but thought I'd pose the question here first, on the off chance anyone may already have the timetable/details for the time I am interested in?

TIA

I have the 1910 Bradshaw reprint somewhere, not sure what month.

 

[eldomtom2]

Hi all. I'm interested in the passenger service that applied (SX) as per the title in September 1910. I see from TTworld there is a Bradshaw listed that covers 1908-1911, which I am more than happy to purchase, but thought I'd pose the question here first, on the off chance anyone may already have the timetable/details for the time I am interested in?

The Timetable World listing is for the November 1908 Bradshaw (Timetable World uses YYYY-MM dates). It is also available for free online - here is a link to the Wickford-Southminster timetable.
To give a summary of weekday services:
Wickford to Southminster: Trains at 6:53, 8:18, 10:09, 13:15, 14:09, 15:08, 17:23, 18:19, 20:54
Southminster to Wickford: Trains at 7:15, 8:20, 11:28, 14:15, 16:28, 19:22
Journey times were generally in the 35-40 minute range.

 

[Big Jumby 74]

I have the 1910 Bradshaw reprint somewhere, not sure what month

Ah, ok, thanks. No rush, but am looking for details of the previous working of what I believe was the 1-24 pm Wickford to Southminster, on a Tuesday, so am guessing something late morning from Southminster to Wickford, assuming the branch was worked by an independent branch line train? That assumption may well be way out of course? Many thanks.

 

[Gloster]

I have the April 1910 reprint, but it appears to be 1.16 p.m. from Wickford, arriving Southminster 1.54 p.m. There was an 11.28 a.m. Southminster into Wickford at 12.05 p.m. It looks as though the line was self-contained with one or two through portions, but with Bradshaw it is difficult to tell.

 

[Big Jumby 74]

Many thanks all. That gives me a clearer picture. Up shot being that I have learnt that the driver of the 1-24 (or whatever time is was) on 20th September 1910, one George Abbot, brought his train to a stand having noticed a body lying on the track, already deceased. One of my G-Great Grandfather's, who was a one time engine driver in one of the Waterworks somewhere in the vicinity of Wickford, exact location of same I have yet to pin down, hence my interest overall - is noted in a local paper as having witnessed a chap standing by a platelayers hut looking in the direction of an approaching train coming from Southminster sometime earlier. Absence of anything further being mentioned about what my relative saw, suggests after having noticed said chap, he likely looked away and got on with his work. Some while later - George Abbot and the 1-24 came across the situation. My mind is saying it is likely the previous train may have been involved perhaps?
A very sad event, as the (elderly) chap concerned was an inmate of Chelmsford Workhouse, and was on a few days visit to see his sister.

 

[Gloster]

20 September 1910 was a Tuesday so you always have the possibility of a goods being involved. Now where are you going to find a WTT? Great Eastern Society, perhaps, but will they have the amendments?

 

[778]

Journey times were generally in the 35-40 minute range.

Not much slower than it is today.

 

[racyrich]

There's also the possibility in 1910 of trains from the Maldon West branch. I can't ascertain if Maldon trains ran through to Wickford or just shuttled to Woodham Ferrers.

 

[Big Jumby 74]

Thanks for all the answers and suggestions. Without wishing to down play the tragic event mentioned up thread, my original question was to a degree about my G-G-Grandfather's role as a witness at the inquest in to that event, and whilst the train (and driver as named) were themselves only witness to the same after the event, it was with my former 'railway planning head' that I started to wonder about the exact events of that day. A bonus to all this is that I have now located as far as I can ascertain, the location of the Pumping station (as was) at which my relative was working on the day in question. He was involved in the building of a new (water) well on the site by all accounts.
A study of Googly earth of the line between Wickford and Battlesbridge today, will reveal a sewage works to the East of the line, immediately South of the Crouch River. Further South the Southend Road passes West to East under the line. The Pumping station (as was) was located to the West of the line approximately mid way between the Southend Road and the Crouch river. Today there is a foot crossing over the railway, and a large (6 arm?) pylon in the vicinty (as aids to the location). Having family photos of said relative, it is nice to add more detail to his career, even though he was a humble labourer for the Southend Waterworks Co., for the most part.

 

[Gloster]

Looking at the 1919 25” map, the PW hut may be on the west side of the line adjacent to the long, thin building in the waterworks compound.