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Why is it called Milton Keynes Central?

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The Lakes Estate is really not a part of Mioton Keynes New Town. It is located in Bletcley which was designated an overspill town from London. The was long before MK was thought of. Lots of the properties on the Lakes have been purchased by the tenants so it is not as bad as it was but a bit grim in places. Coffee Hall and Netherworld were originally constructed to house the builders who were constructing the rest of the town. As a matter of interest I lived most of my time in MK in Tattenhoe.
 
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Odd that BR named a Class 86 (the ill-fated 86211) City of Milton Keynes, yet apparently 86212 was originally to be City of Preston and only switched to Preston Guild when it was realised that Preston wasn't a City (at that point), yet 86211 kept its name.

Off topic - Byfleet & New Haw was originally named West Weybridge, which meant the LSWR had six stations in a row all named after places starting with W - Walton-on-Thames, Weybridge, West Weybridge, West Byfleet, Woking and Worplesdon.
 

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As pit diver says, Lakes estate predates the new city of MK. Coffee Hall is another poorer suburb of the city, but unlike in most other cities it’s hidden behind hedges so you can’t tell it’s there. The houses aren’t factory houses but there are significant poverty to rival other deprived areas across the country.

In addition, the original Milton Keynes village isn’t that near Central Milton Keynes which is the main shopping and business district. Hence the name ‘Central’…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middleton,_Milton_Keynes
 

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As pit diver says, Lakes estate predates the new city of MK. Coffee Hall is another poorer suburb of the city, but unlike in most other cities it’s hidden behind hedges so you can’t tell it’s there. The houses aren’t factory houses but there are significant poverty to rival other deprived areas across the country.

In addition, the original Milton Keynes village isn’t that near Central Milton Keynes which is the main shopping and business district. Hence the name ‘Central’…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middleton,_Milton_Keynes

and it, honestly, isn't poor. Nowhere in MK imho is a poor area. There are areas of less affluence but compared to other areas i have lived none are deprived, none are run down and none are decaying and full of empty boarded up housing and burnt out shops.

The people of MK really don't know they are born.
 

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Off topic post.

I think many in MK would dispute this about broadband. It's a well known fact that Virgin Media dumped their Cable TV service because it could only do analogue and couldn't do cable broadband, and to upgrade it would require them to either pay BT Openreach a metric crap tonne of money to upgrade the network they rented from them (Virgin uniquely rented the cable network from BT in MK and Westminster) or build their own network from scratch.

Meanwhile the telephone system had long local loops due to having 2 main exchanges and routing cables along the main road grids and used aluminium cables instead of copper and was of such poor quality that there was no ADSL in many areas until 2004, and even now there are some dead spots where speed is maybe only 1 mb.

There finally was fibre broadband in the last 3 years (mainly FTTC) and there are some FTTH. The fibre ironically being blown through the old CATV ducts.

Just to continue this off topic post - I wholeheartedly agree. Work (placement) took me to MK for a year, September 2009 - September 2010, and whilst I would like to say the Internet service we received was cr*p, I would have to say it wasn't even that good!
Unbelievably annoying as I worked (then, as now) in IT and used to need to rely on it for on-call work!
I was in Bradwell Common, so not too far from CMK or the station
 

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and it, honestly, isn't poor. Nowhere in MK imho is a poor area. There are areas of less affluence but compared to other areas i have lived none are deprived, none are run down and none are decaying and full of empty boarded up housing and burnt out shops.

While I accept that MK is rather middle class overall, I have lived in other places and I do hail from the North West, and I would say that Fishermead certainly is deprived, run down and does have boarded up premises (albeit none burnt down that I know of). Go and take a walk around it if you want to get a feel for it - it's not so bad that you're likely to be relieved of your wallet if you do, but it's certainly very run down.

Furthermore there are significant social issues there - as one example I have a friend who works as a tree surgeon for the Council, and he was assaulted and spat at there purely because of who he works for (by someone who was clearly very brave given that his job involves a chainsaw! :) ) - I hear they are presently reluctant to maintain the landscape there at all because of the risk to staff (which is making it look very tatty and overgrown - which itself breeds vandalism etc). There are also issues with gangs reported in the Press frequently, notably (and I'm not being racist, this is a recorded fact in many newspaper articles - Google it) a specific gang of mainly first generation Somali immigrant origin.

The Lakes isn't really that bad, OTOH. Just needs a bit of a cleanup, and for the Council to put proper roofs on the houses they own to stop them falling to bits - I think with the views of the Brickhills (allegedly the reason for said flat roofs) it'd actually be quite desirable if it had been built properly - the similar "hide the cars behind the houses" layout works well in West Bletchley and apart from the decaying flat roofs the houses are very similar in parts as well. Coffee Hall and Beanhill are very similar, and while I wouldn't choose to live in any of those three unless it was all I could afford I don't think I'd feel unsafe if I did.
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Why is it Milton Keynes Central?

Well.....Maynard Keynes Central just wouldn't be right

As someone else posted, despite frequently being given this origin that isn't the origin of the name. It simply comes from one of the villages (now often known as Middleton to avoid confusion) which make up the New Town area. It was decided not to use one of the larger towns (Wolverton, Bletchley, Newport Pagnell) in order to avoid any bias, so one of the smaller settlements roughly in the middle of the built-up area was chosen.

And that name has nothing to do with JMK either, it's much older - I believe it is derived from the family de Cahaines as a former landowner - i.e "Middleton of the Cahaines estate", or more drilled-down, "the town in the middle of the Cahaines estate". (More here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middleton,_Milton_Keynes)
 
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and it, honestly, isn't poor. Nowhere in MK imho is a poor area. There are areas of less affluence but compared to other areas i have lived none are deprived, none are run down and none are decaying and full of empty boarded up housing and burnt out shops.

The people of MK really don't know they are born.

Yes - there are poor areas. From the outside it doesn't look poor because it's largely still relatively recent builds but I can assure you that there is poverty from significant first and second hand experience in the various pockets.

(I've lived in Stoke on Trent and Luton so have reasonable sight of what factory-terrace poor looks and feels like as well for comparison)
 
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