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Why does Chiltern not serve Wembley Park

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In the title really. Given that this is now is huge interchange station.

I know that it instead serves Wembley Stadium but thought WP would have also have made sense for extra capacity - on match days at least.
 
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In the title really. Given that this is now is huge interchange station.

I know that it instead serves Wembley Stadium but thought WP would have also have made sense for extra capacity - on match days at least.
Why would it serve chock-a-block Wembley Park on match days when Stadium is closer?
 

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Do you want to build some platforms? There aren't any on the mainline tracks, although they considered your plan at one point.
 

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Wembley Park is also north of the junction for Birmingham and Oxford so the only trains that could stop at new platforms, if they were built, are those on the Aylesbury line, and there is already interchange at Harrow on the Hill.

Wembley Stadium station spreads the load on match days.
 

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They don't have enough resources either, on Wembley event days they often don't run any trains via Amersham and replace them with buses, presumably to resource the increased service at Wembley Stadium. Far better to leave it to the Metropolitan line, those who need to can change en route
 

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I think a few years ago Chiltern wanted to have their and Met (and Leicester?) trains call at West Hampstead, which would have had better connections than Wembley Park. I'm fairly certain that was dismissed as too expensive though.
 

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I think a few years ago Chiltern wanted to have their and Met (and Leicester?) trains call at West Hampstead, which would have had better connections than Wembley Park. I'm fairly certain that was dismissed as too expensive though.

Having the other services (or at least some of each type) calling at West Hampstead as a useful out-of-the-centre interchange might be worthwhile if there was an overarching/well-connected station there serving all 3 routes (or collections of routes), rather than the current 3 separate stations - albeit only a little way along the road from one another. Given the space available, without knocking down existing premises/homes/etc, it's always been impossible to find a way of linking all 3 stations properly except perhaps if it was part of a massive commercial development on top which would fund it (which would, however, cause chaos for both local travel movements and trains on those lines during construction); but even then, it'd be a struggle getting a big scheme past all the local objections there would understandably be. But it theoretically makes sense to have more and better interchanges where you've got so many lines next door to one another...
 

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I think a few years ago Chiltern wanted to have their and Met (and Leicester?) trains call at West Hampstead, which would have had better connections than Wembley Park. I'm fairly certain that was dismissed as too expensive though.
It was a proposal some time in the 1970s, which has been discussed here previously, which would have had platforms on (using current names) Chiltern, Metropolitan, Jubilee, North London Overground, Midland and Thameslink. Being in old ticket systems days, all would have been connected inside the barriers. A Metropolitan stop there would have replaced the one at Finchley Road. It was much more practical then with the various land parcels less developed or still in railway ownership.
 

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Historically there was an agreement between the Great Central and Metropolitan railways, helped no doubt by the fact that the Chairman of both concerns was one Edward Watkin, that in return for running rights over the Met, the London extension of the GC would not stop south of Harrow-on-the-Hill. Hence no "mainline" stop at Wembley Park.

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