Who drives?

[scott118]

An interesting point arises when trains running ECS can do so with just a driver (TOC/traction specific) so if a train guard didn't sign a section of the route the passengers be detrained until the point where the guard does know the route and the train ran ECS inbetween? What if the next stop was the terminus and the guard didn't sign the diversionary route ?

I'm pretty sure a guard wouldn't be diagrammed, until they have signed off the routes, they are being asked to work, including diversionary routes..

 

[craigybagel]

An interesting point arises when trains running ECS can do so with just a driver (TOC/traction specific) so if a train guard didn't sign a section of the route the passengers be detrained until the point where the guard does know the route and the train ran ECS inbetween? What if the next stop was the terminus and the guard didn't sign the diversionary route ?

I can remember back in my platform days assisting the guard in detraining a service that had just been terminated at my station. There was disruption on the line ahead, between our station and that trains terminus. The driver signed a diversion route around the problem, but the guard didn't. It ended up running ECS to its terminus. It would have been fine if the detrained passengers hadn't overheard the radio conversation between platform staff and thus found out their train was still running, just without them onboard......

I'm pretty sure a guard wouldn't be diagrammed, until they have signed off the routes, they are being asked to work, including diversionary routes..

The rostering software warns the rostering clerk if they try to allocate a member of traincrew to a job containing routes or traction they don't sign. It does rely on that database being kept up to date mind - I had some trouble obtaining rest day works when I first passed out as the system didn't think I signed our depots entire route card from day 1.....

 

[Red18]

All the operational competencies herein described are job roles that may be performed by individuals with different job titles. It's the role that's important, not the job title.

A person undertaking the role of a pilotman replaces unavailable functionality of a signalling system, generally by functioning as the human equivalent of a train staff or issuing a ticket as per staff and ticket.

Exactly. Person In Lieu Of Token

 

[Bletchleyite]

Exactly. Person In Lieu Of Token

Well I never knew that!

 

[Muzer]

Exactly. Person In Lieu Of Token

This acronym seems somewhat suspicious to me, and I suspect it's just a fun coincidence rather than something actually intended originally, especially since making up new acronyms on a regular basis became common only from the mid-20th century — and I assume the term "pilotman" is older than that. I can't find any reliable sources for that being the source of the term. Please correct me if I'm wrong though!

 

[JN114]

Exactly. Person In Lieu Of Token

Sorry to burst the bubble, but it's just a coincidence - a "backronym" if you'd like...

Pilot, in this context, is short for Pilotman - and Person in Lieu of Token Man doesn't make much sense. Also "in" and "of" are little words, and thus rarely feature in Acronyms...