Which stations has the lowest passenger numbers ?

[sheff'd victoria]

It used to be Gainsborough Central but there was an issue with the tickets as you could get a ticket to Central or Lea Road or just Gainsborough

What it the top 5 for ghost stations ?

 

[Darandio]

Well, Tees-side Airport is the common one that will crop up, although with one service each way per week, it cannot be surprising!

 

[Oracle]

Beaulieu Road?

 

[jamesontheroad]

I'd suggest one of the legally open but physically closed or un-served stations... Can't remember any names but there's one on the WCML and a whole line somewhere in north London. Online on my phone, so can't find this out myself, but every Wikipedia page for uk stations has a link to the stats, in the top right info box.

 

[yorksrob]

Not sure if it's actually been closed yet but I think Newhaven Marine was in that category for some time.

 

[CMS]

For 2007/2008, newest released:
1st - CROSSKEYS - Arriva Trains Wales (Ebbw Vale Line)
2nd - LLANHILLETH - Arriva Trains Wales (Ebbw Vale Line)
3rd - REDDISH SOUTH - Northern Rail (Stockport to Stalybridge line)
4th - DORKING WEST - First Great Western (North Downs Line)
5th - TEES-SIDE AIRPORT - Northern Rail (TV Line)

 

[tbtc]

Briech is pretty low (considering it has more than one train a week, unlike some)

 

[Mojo]

For 2007/2008, newest released:
1st - CROSSKEYS - Arriva Trains Wales (Ebbw Vale Line)
2nd - LLANHILLETH - Arriva Trains Wales (Ebbw Vale Line)

Not surprising given that Llanhilleth opened 3 weeks after and Crosskeys 2 months after the reporting period ended!

 

[poshbakerloo]

Denton station in Manchester is hardly used!

53 passengers 2007/8 which is stupidly small...but I think they main reason for this is that only one train called there a week, in one direction!!! Maybe if it ran once per hour in both directions, it might have been a bit better?

 

[Aictos]

Bayford on FCC's Great Northern route is the least busiest station on that route - spend all day Sunday looking at the figures!

 

[me123]

Briech is pretty low (considering it has more than one train a week, unlike some)

Breich has two trains a day in each direction, but serves only a tiny village. According to wikipedia, it serves one regular passenger.

Scotland has a lot of noteably small stations. Some, like Golf Street and Barry Links are poorly served and, hence, poorly used. However, some like Altnabreac and Corrour are weird in that they don't really serve... anything!

 

[jopsuk]

Wikipedia speculates that Altnabreac was built as a passing loop and water fill up point; I guess Corrour was partly the same? Might as well let passengers wander a bit whilst the train is waiting, so a platform gets built.

 

[Geezertronic]

Bordesley is a good candidate, I think it is only served by a Parliamentary train and the odd football specials for Birmingham City (which could pick up the numbers). Apart from that, maybe Water Orton?

 

[Proud Salopian]

Rather than just guessing, I've had a look at the official Network Rail statistics. :roll:

07/08 Exits & Entries

Crosskeys 8
Llanhilleth 10
Helensburgh Upper 47
Reddish South 47
Dorking West 52
Tees-Side Airport 52
Denton 53
Coombe Halt 54
Doleham 56
Buckenham 97
Barry Links 98
Sugar Loaf 111

 

[Mojo]

Rather than just guessing, I've had a look at the official Network Rail statistics. :roll:

I believe they are actually ORR statistics, but nonetheless are absolutely useless for a number of reasons, one of which I mentioned above.

 

[Proud Salopian]

I know the official figures are not brilliantly accurate, but they are comprehensive and are based on actual collected and computed information. Show me a better list of station usage figures. (There isn't one.) As for Crosskeys and Llanhilleth, well just ignore them and start the "bottom 10" with Helensburgh Upper or Reddish South.

So sorry, but they're not "absolutely useless". But I guess you'd rather get back to the guessing game.

 

[A60K]

To be honest they are as close as it gets to being absolutely useless for answering the question posed! Helensburgh Upper will quite possibly see 47 passengers on a good Summer Saturday.

You have to remember that these figures are based on ticket sales data. In the Helensburgh Upper example tickets will mostly be issued to "Helensburgh Stns" and those sales are all credited to Helensburgh Central in this list. It also will not take into account BritRail passes, Ranger/Rover tickets, breaks of journey (Corrour sees quite a few people stopping off for a few hours on their way to Fort William) and various other non-standard journeys.

My guess would be Briech has the lowest number of regular passengers - basically one guy commutes to Edinburgh daily, and there are very few other passengers.

 

[Greenback]

Yes, the trouble with these statistics is when they are used by who don;t understand the limitations of the data, such as dft civil servants, the press etc. AFAIK the statistics make no refernece to whether the station is part of a group as with Helensburgh), or have a derisory service like one train a week or two a day. There was also some discussion on the West Country branches, where, on the St Ives line at least, there are no local point to point single/day return tickets available, which has depressed the numbers. As such, I think these statistics need to be read with caution as they often fail to indicate how much a station is actually ued.

 

[yorksrob]

Stations in PTE areas also get poorly represented by these figures, particularly if a lot of passengers use zonal travelcards. Sadly I suspect that in some cases they are used as an excuse to offer inadequate services.

Out of the top ten, Dorking West is in a group with Deepdene and Central whilst Doleham has suffered from an almost parliamentary service after having most of it's trains withdrawn for the introduction of the Ashford - Brighton fast service.

 

[2030720310]

Why have we missed out Berney Arms????

 

[me123]

Wikipedia speculates that Altnabreac was built as a passing loop and water fill up point; I guess Corrour was partly the same? Might as well let passengers wander a bit whilst the train is waiting, so a platform gets built.

Corrour does have a purpose as a hiker's stop, but it is literally in the middle of nowhere! It's rather odd...

 

[jamesontheroad]

I'd suggest one of the legally open but physically closed or un-served stations... Can't remember any names but there's one on the WCML and a whole line somewhere in north London

Apart from that, maybe Water Orton?

Thanks Geezertronic, Water Orton was the one I was thinking of. The line in North London is the Watford Junction / Croxley Green line.

 

[philjo]

Lakenheath must be fairly low on the list.
It only has one train in each direction on Saturdays and three trains in each direction on Sundays

 

[Norwich]

There must be a number of stations in East Anglia that are reasonably high on this list (or low, depending upon your viewpoint!)

Shippea Hill, Eccles Road, Spooner Row and Harling Road hardly have any services (Norwich - Ely line).

As previously mentioned, Berney Arms is a request only stop, and unlike the likes of Sugar Loaf on the mid-Wales line, can only be requested on a few services - ditto, Buckenham.

 

[asylumxl]

Kempston Hardwick on the Marston Vale used to only get 1 passenger a day due to the people of Kempston and Kempston Hardwick not knowing it existed.

 

[adc82140]

The reason Dorking West is shown as low (and Dorking Deepdene is fairly low as well) is that the majority of tickets sold to and from these stations are marked as Dorking Stations.

 

[yorkie]

Rather than just guessing, I've had a look at the official Network Rail statistics. :roll:

I think I'd rather stick to guessing - it'll be more accurate

Helensburgh Upper 47
Dorking West 52

100% of the quoted statistics are very wrong.

I know the official figures are not brilliantly accurate,

Understatement of the decade!

but they are comprehensive

Nope

and are based on actual collected and computed information.

Oh? Tell me more!

Show me a better list of station usage figures. (There isn't one.)

Just because a list exists, and a 'better' one is not readily available, doesn't mean it is accurate.

As for Crosskeys and Llanhilleth, well just ignore them and start the "bottom 10" with Helensburgh Upper or Reddish South.

Do you honestly think Hellensburgh Upper has 53 passengers a year?

So sorry, but they're not "absolutely useless".

For some stations they are exactly that.

But I guess you'd rather get back to the guessing game

Yep.

Why have we missed out Berney Arms????

Computer says no But as it's a computed 'actual' data it must be right and Hellensburgh Upper is not as well used as Berney Arms.

 

[John @ home]

I'd suggest one of the legally open but physically closed or un-served stations... Can't remember any names but there's one on the WCML

Apart from that, maybe Water Orton?

Thanks Geezertronic, Water Orton was the one I was thinking of.

I don't think so. Norton Bridge is the WCML station which is legally open but physically closed. Water Orton had 41,709 recorded passengers in 2007/08 and is served by CrossCountry trains to Leicester, Birmingham and Derby.

John

 

[Geezertronic]

I don't think so. Norton Bridge is the WCML station which is legally open but physically closed. Water Orton had 41,709 recorded passengers in 2007/08 and is served by CrossCountry trains to Leicester, Birmingham and Derby.

John

I think you have quoted me out of context - I did not suggest that Water Orton was on the WCML at all.

 

[Bittern]

Carstairs has to be a contender.