• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Where is the level crossing on airdrie bathgate link?

Status
Not open for further replies.
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

Joined
3 Aug 2021
Messages
831
Location
Glasgow
Where is the level crossing on airdrie bathgate link(that annoyed the ORR)?

There aren't any level crossings on the Airdrie - Bathgate section of route. Only LCs on that line of route between Helensburgh and Edinburgh are 6 crossings between Craigendoran and Cardross and a further one at Bowling.
 

AHBD

Member
Joined
9 Sep 2022
Messages
195
Location
Northern Irelandm
There aren't any level crossings on the Airdrie - Bathgate section of route. Only LCs on that line of route between Helensburgh and Edinburgh are 6 crossings between Craigendoran and Cardross and a further one at Bowling.
I must have confused it with another Scottish reopening, where a previous level crossing was reinstated to the ORRs annoyance?
 
Last edited:

matchmaker

Established Member
Joined
8 Mar 2009
Messages
1,883
Location
Central Scotland
That’s the route I would be looking into. I think they had to build a new road rather than the planned reopening of some crossings, but there’s not much about anything specific online.
Several crossings were closed completely, three converted to CCTV and the busiest - in Alloa - was replaced by a new road and overbridge.There are also several UWC. One of the CCTV crossings - at Cambus - was intended to be AHB, but after objections (I'm not sure who from) it was changed to CCTV.
 

godfreycomplex

Established Member
Joined
23 Jun 2016
Messages
1,752
Several crossings were closed completely, three converted to CCTV and the busiest - in Alloa - was replaced by a new road and overbridge.There are also several UWC. One of the CCTV crossings - at Cambus - was intended to be AHB, but after objections (I'm not sure who from) it was changed to CCTV.
That may have been the ORR as no new AHB installations have been permitted for many years
 

AHBD

Member
Joined
9 Sep 2022
Messages
195
Location
Northern Irelandm
Thanks, that seems the likely candidate but I cant find the original post on here, its sometimes surprisingly hard to find stuff one has seen, using searches ....
 

matchmaker

Established Member
Joined
8 Mar 2009
Messages
1,883
Location
Central Scotland
Here is a link to the legislation. Schedules 4, 5 and 6 give a list of the crossings and their fate. Crossings

I have a vague recollection that the objections to the AHB crossing at Cambus may have come from residents who were worried about such a "dangerous" type of crossing being installed, but I haven't found anything online to confirm or deny this.
 

D6130

Established Member
Joined
12 Jan 2021
Messages
9,109
Location
West Yorkshire/Tuscany
I'm open to correction, but I seem to remember that Moss Road crossing (formerly Ardmore West) - between Cardross and Craigendoran - was converted from user-worked gates to AHB-C relatively recently. Perhaps that's the one that the OP was thinking of on the Edinburgh-Helensburgh route?
 

Scotrail84

On Moderation
Joined
5 Jul 2010
Messages
2,977
Could it be Cambus level crossing, I seem to remember residents complained that coal trains were making their houses develop some cracking in their walls too.
 

och aye

Member
Joined
21 Jan 2012
Messages
1,018
The new Levenmouth railway upset some locals when the previous crossings were permanently closed.


The Levenmouth rail link will leave a “bitter legacy” for hundreds of people as Network Rail presses ahead with the removal of a popular level crossing.

Campaigners and politicians claim communities are being set against each other by the decision to close Doubledykes crossing at the western end of the new line.
 

MadMac

Established Member
Joined
13 Jun 2008
Messages
1,501
Location
Moorpark, CA
Could it be Cambus level crossing, I seem to remember residents complained that coal trains were making their houses develop some cracking in their walls too.
One of the issues that arose was that house purchasers had apparently been led to believe that the railway was closed: it wasn’t. It still “technically existed“. NR just started using it again.
 

och aye

Member
Joined
21 Jan 2012
Messages
1,018
One of the issues that arose was that house purchasers had apparently been led to believe that the railway was closed: it wasn’t. It still “technically existed“. NR just started using it again.
They should sue the housing developers for false advertising if that's what they were told before purchasing the houses. :lol:
 

matchmaker

Established Member
Joined
8 Mar 2009
Messages
1,883
Location
Central Scotland
They should sue the housing developers for false advertising if that's what they were told before purchasing the houses. :lol:
Might have been Clackmannan. I seem to remember that some homeowners there kicked up a stink when it was announced that the railway was to reopen. Apparently when they bought their houses they failed to notice the mothballed railway at the bottom of their gardens...
 

Scotrail84

On Moderation
Joined
5 Jul 2010
Messages
2,977
Might have been Clackmannan. I seem to remember that some homeowners there kicked up a stink when it was announced that the railway was to reopen. Apparently when they bought their houses they failed to notice the mothballed railway at the bottom of their gardens...

Did homeowners on the same line not try and 'reclaim' some land after the Dunfermline to Kincardine section was taken OOU? I heard a funny story of a light engine doing a proving run from a few years ago having to stop short of some how shall we say, 'extended' gardens and some makeshift fencing that the owners had put in themselves to make their gardens bigger. Instructions given to the driver to plough the road as well. :lol:
 

MadMac

Established Member
Joined
13 Jun 2008
Messages
1,501
Location
Moorpark, CA
Did homeowners on the same line not try and 'reclaim' some land after the Dunfermline to Kincardine section was taken OOU? I heard a funny story of a light engine doing a proving run from a few years ago having to stop short of some how shall we say, 'extended' gardens and some makeshift fencing that the owners had put in themselves to make their gardens bigger. Instructions given to the driver to plough the road as well. :lol:
When I was at Railtrack (mid-90s), my team was asked to go out there and take a look at what state it was in. They came across several instances of ‘extended’ gardens including one with a greenhouse in the middle of the track! As it was put to me by a fairly senior Operations person: “It still technically exists, but it would be a very brave or very foolhardy man who would send a train down there!”
 

Scotrail84

On Moderation
Joined
5 Jul 2010
Messages
2,977
When I was at Railtrack (mid-90s), my team was asked to go out there and take a look at what state it was in. They came across several instances of ‘extended’ gardens including one with a greenhouse in the middle of the track! As it was put to me by a fairly senior Operations person: “It still technically exists, but it would be a very brave or very foolhardy man who would send a train down there!”
Traksy showed a test train in one of the signal berths between Dunfermline and Kincardine a few weeks ago but it may not have been accurate of course. it was 3Sxx
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top