northwichcat
Veteran Member
Like the title says which lines have had a solution to one problem implemented and caused another on the same line in the process? (Not any cases where an increased service by one operator has had an effect on the service by another.)
One example on my local Manchester-Chester via Altrincham line. Pre-December 08 the morning departures from Manchester were:
06:35
07:39
08:20 (to Greenbank only - semi-fast)
09:24
Now obvious problems were the 08:20 being to Greenbank only and semi-fast left a big gap in service on some sections of the line. However, the 07:39 service was well timed to meet the school/college demand and having one service 40 minutes after another on the Altrincham-Northwich section (the busiest part of the line) worked well.
The December 08 timetable introduced then had the following departure times:
06:17
07:17
08:17
09:17
That solved 'big gap in service on some sections of the line' problem and the re-timing of the first service allows a slightly earlier start. However, the 07:17 Manchester-Chester is less well timed for the school/college demand and the longer gap between services on the Altrincham-Northwich section has seen a new problem emerge. The old 07:39 Manchester-Chester had a loading of up to around 180 on a service booked for a class 150 train - obviously busy but not unreasonable for a peak time service. The new 07:17 Manchester-Chester is also booked for a 150 and has a loading of up to around 260. And Northern are not unknown to put 142s on booked 150 services including the 07:17 Manchester-Chester, which in this case means a lot of people being unable to board and being made to wait an hour for the next train.
One example on my local Manchester-Chester via Altrincham line. Pre-December 08 the morning departures from Manchester were:
06:35
07:39
08:20 (to Greenbank only - semi-fast)
09:24
Now obvious problems were the 08:20 being to Greenbank only and semi-fast left a big gap in service on some sections of the line. However, the 07:39 service was well timed to meet the school/college demand and having one service 40 minutes after another on the Altrincham-Northwich section (the busiest part of the line) worked well.
The December 08 timetable introduced then had the following departure times:
06:17
07:17
08:17
09:17
That solved 'big gap in service on some sections of the line' problem and the re-timing of the first service allows a slightly earlier start. However, the 07:17 Manchester-Chester is less well timed for the school/college demand and the longer gap between services on the Altrincham-Northwich section has seen a new problem emerge. The old 07:39 Manchester-Chester had a loading of up to around 180 on a service booked for a class 150 train - obviously busy but not unreasonable for a peak time service. The new 07:17 Manchester-Chester is also booked for a 150 and has a loading of up to around 260. And Northern are not unknown to put 142s on booked 150 services including the 07:17 Manchester-Chester, which in this case means a lot of people being unable to board and being made to wait an hour for the next train.