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I'm frankly appalled at the attitude of people on here that say restrictions must say 'because it's not safe' or saying there's 'no way' restrictions will be going anytime soon. I think you ought to remember there is more in this world than just COVID, and once the vaccine has been rolled out to the most vulnerable, that will prevent a significant number of hospitalisations. It will be a gradual relaxation, as the vaccine rollout will have a gradual effect on hospital capacity, and I would expect the easing to follow this model. My guess would be

Lockdown -> Everywhere Tiers 3/4

Individual relaxations/tightening dependant on hospital capacity in certain areas.

When vaccine has enough impact on this, we will eventually all be in tier 1 (or thereabouts), and the government will finally call it a day on these restrictions once and for all.

There is NO such thing as a risk free society, and you will ALWAYS face certain risks when you leave your home. It is not the job of government to mitigate risks like this. The justification for the third full lockdown is due to hospital capacity, NOT due to people dying from COVID (despite what they say). It is not the duty of the state to protect us against respiratory viruses, that's a risk we choose to take in society, and frankly it needs to stay that way, or there will be a gross imbalance of prioritising quantity of life over quality of life.

I agree but there aren’t many people supporting it, the majority are only stating what they think will happen, whether we like it or not. You can forgive people for being a little pessimistic after the shambles of the last nine months. I want all restrictions lifted as soon as possible, unfortunately it’s not up to me though!
 
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You're quoting a politician. If you really think all restrictions will be lifted by spring, You're living in a deluded fantasy world.
End of discussion.

No I'm not living in a deluded fantasy world. Please don't say I am!

You're saying these restrictions are going to last for the rest of the year at least!!! That is absolute madness! If all these restrictions continued until at least the end of the year the whole country would just steadily fall apart. Thousands upon thousands of more businesses will go under, millions more will become unemployed, there would be a mental health crisis of absolute biblical proportions, more and more people would be committing suicide as they'd just be unable to take all these harsh restrictions any longer. I will be one of them.

Within a few months the daily deaths from Coronavirus will be miniscule as a result of all these vaccinations. And the hospitalisations and numbers in hospital should be steadily falling week on week by then too. Absolutely no need for all these absolutely ridiculous restrictions to continue much longer. When we get to this stage, just what an earth justifications would there be for keeping all these restrictions??

I am confident that by Easter, things should be much much better. It's what keeping me going right now. If we believe the likes of you who seem to think we'll be living with these restrictions for at least another year or so or even forever, then it will not do our mental health good.
 

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I agree but there aren’t many people supporting it, the majority are only stating what they think will happen, whether we like it or not. You can forgive people for being a little pessimistic after the shambles of the last nine months. I want all restrictions lifted as soon as possible, unfortunately it’s not up to me though!

Same here. I don't want the restrictions, but I'm not getting my hopes up on them going away particularly quickly. At this point I'm basically just aiming to 'hibernate' so that I can re-emerge when it's all over.
 

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I'm frankly appalled at the attitude of people on here that say restrictions must say 'because it's not safe' or saying there's 'no way' restrictions will be going anytime soon. I think you ought to remember there is more in this world than just COVID, and once the vaccine has been rolled out to the most vulnerable, that will prevent a significant number of hospitalisations. It will be a gradual relaxation, as the vaccine rollout will have a gradual effect on hospital capacity, and I would expect the easing to follow this model. My guess would be

Lockdown -> Everywhere Tiers 3/4

Individual relaxations/tightening dependant on hospital capacity in certain areas.

When vaccine has enough impact on this, we will eventually all be in tier 1 (or thereabouts), and the government will finally call it a day on these restrictions once and for all.

There is NO such thing as a risk free society, and you will ALWAYS face certain risks when you leave your home. It is not the job of government to mitigate risks like this. The justification for the third full lockdown is due to hospital capacity, NOT due to people dying from COVID (despite what they say). It is not the duty of the state to protect us against respiratory viruses, that's a risk we choose to take in society, and frankly it needs to stay that way, or there will be a gross imbalance of prioritising quantity of life over quality of life.

I think even Chris Whitty realises that the lifting of restrictions will be a political decision, based on what is desirable from an epidemiological point of view, but also taking account of the economy, and the publics' willingness to tolerate continuation of lockdown measures.

I have see a headline on Sky News today saying the the vaccine has already prevented "thousands" of hospital admissions, and this figure, whilst difficult to quantify precisely, is only going to increase over time.

So I agree there will be a gradual relaxation of restrictions, commencing in the second half of February with schools returning after the half term break. It may be that there is a gradual return of pupils to school, rather than them all returning at once.

Then in March I would expect non essential retail and leisure centres to re-open, followed by hospitality no later than the Easter weekend.

Remaining restrictions such as social distancing and compulsory masks would be relaxed in stages during April, May and June.

No doubt Scotland and Wales will be different just for the sake of it. But I can't see Scotland being under lockdown in May in England is not, especially with elections coming up, which apparently are not going to be postponed.
 

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Totally agree. It’s always the people with secure jobs and plenty of income who demand further restrictions. The fact is, lots of these people are absolutely loving being on furlough and don’t want it to end. But they need to get back to reality and look at the bigger picture.

Also plenty of people on long term furlough who are miserable, and probably feeling horribly guilty at being paid to do nothing, and worrying if they'll ever have a job to go back to.
 

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I have see a headline on Sky News today saying the the vaccine has already prevented "thousands" of hospital admissions, and this figure, whilst difficult to quantify precisely, is only going to increase over time.

I haven't seen that, but this gives me hope if the media narrative is turning to the success of the vaccine. Whether encouraged to do this or not, it will serve to change some minds of those who are calling for more lockdowns.
 

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the majority are only stating what they think will happen, whether we like it or not. You can forgive people for being a little pessimistic after the shambles of the last nine months. I want all restrictions lifted as soon as possible, unfortunately it’s not up to me though!
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Also plenty of people on long term furlough who are miserable, and probably feeling horribly guilty at being paid to do nothing, and worrying if they'll ever have a job to go back to.

And the unemployed, who really want to get working again as soon as possible, but it's near impossible at the moment due to all these social distancing and other restrictions, and lockdowns that have so far dragged on for months on end! There will have to come a turning point very soon now to start lifting all these ridiculous restrictions and start getting all the unemployed back into employment again.
 

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100%. The lockdown fanatics, who are calling for Asian style lockdowns with people welded into their homes don't give a toss about people's livelihoods, the economy and mental health.
We all know the restrictions can't start to be lifted just yet, but the peal-clutching from Corbynistas and "DOOM! DOOMMMMM! comments from random "experts" every 5 minutes that things need to be stricter and stricter, is just ridiculous. We know this is a very serious situation but there is no balance whatsoever.

Don't forget the leader of the labour party wanting tougher restrictions

(As he travelled to a TV studio to carry out an interview with Marr, something which should have been carried out at home with a video link in my eyes)
 

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Another article from Sunday Times, this time written by Chris Whitty:

These restrictions will not last for ever. Science has delivered new vaccines, drugs and tests, with more on the way, in record time. People will be reunited.

But we are not there yet, and should not act as if we are. We still have weeks to go before vaccines will start reducing Covid deaths and, some weeks later, the number of people taken to hospital.

We cannot afford to let our justified optimism for the future come at the expense of difficult action today. That means staying home and avoiding all unnecessary contact. By following the rules, we will save lives and help normal life to return more swiftly.
In the article, Chris Whitty does seem to be suggesting restrictions will end at some point in that he says a normal life will return. He does not put any timeframe on it though other than saying obeying the lockdown will bring about normality quicker.
 

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I'm frankly appalled at the attitude of people on here that say restrictions must say 'because it's not safe' or saying there's 'no way' restrictions will be going anytime soon. I think you ought to remember there is more in this world than just COVID, and once the vaccine has been rolled out to the most vulnerable, that will prevent a significant number of hospitalisations. It will be a gradual relaxation, as the vaccine rollout will have a gradual effect on hospital capacity, and I would expect the easing to follow this model. My guess would be

Lockdown -> Everywhere Tiers 3/4

Individual relaxations/tightening dependant on hospital capacity in certain areas.

When vaccine has enough impact on this, we will eventually all be in tier 1 (or thereabouts), and the government will finally call it a day on these restrictions once and for all.

There is NO such thing as a risk free society, and you will ALWAYS face certain risks when you leave your home. It is not the job of government to mitigate risks like this. The justification for the third full lockdown is due to hospital capacity, NOT due to people dying from COVID (despite what they say). It is not the duty of the state to protect us against respiratory viruses, that's a risk we choose to take in society, and frankly it needs to stay that way, or there will be a gross imbalance of prioritising quantity of life over quality of life.
Me too, I'm sick to the back teeth of generally middle class, able to work / school from home locktivists constantly banging on about more restrictions for everyone else. The damage done to society is horrific but constantly being brushed under the carpet "because covid". There is going to be a terrible price to pay for many, but probably not those demanding more lockdowns. I've said it before in these discussions, but people are way too free and easy with other people's lives.

As you rightly say, life is full of risks. Just because the boomer generation have suddenly discovered that they are not immortal doesn't mean everyone else should pay the price.

100%. The lockdown fanatics, who are calling for Asian style lockdowns with people welded into their homes don't give a toss about people's livelihoods, the economy and mental health.
We all know the restrictions can't start to be lifted just yet, but the peal-clutching from Corbynistas and "DOOM! DOOMMMMM! comments from random "experts" every 5 minutes that things need to be stricter and stricter, is just ridiculous. We know this is a very serious situation but there is no balance whatsoever.
Let's call it what it is, a Chinese authoritarian type lockdown. That's what SAGE want, and seemingly what they have wanted for previous pandemics. Maybe it is time to seal SAGE into their homes, drip feed them cheap and nasty food & see how long it would be before they started to complain.
 

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Totally agree. It’s always the people with secure jobs and plenty of income who demand further restrictions. The fact is, lots of these people are absolutely loving being on furlough and don’t want it to end. But they need to get back to reality and look at the bigger picture.

Yep, those who aren't affected income wise are usually the ones calling for tougher restrictions.

It is a shame in this sense that Cummings has gone. He knew the real problem was the idiots in Whitehall who make these regulations and decisions, the MPs are really just the spokesmen.

If I were BoJo, and I had Whitehall privately planning NOW to ease things from March 23 I'd put them all at risk of redundancy from tomorrow. Start the collective consultation period immediately.
 

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Don't forget the leader of the labour party wanting tougher restrictions

(As he travelled to a TV studio to carry out an interview with Marr, something which should have been carried out at home with a video link in my eyes)

And in todays Sunday Times its reported one of his front bench will travel to the States for Bidens inaguration. Do as I say, not as I do!
 

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Restrictions will remain place for the rest of the year at least.
Unlikely; and the harshest restrictions will only be tenable for 2 more months at the most

The vaccine provides immunity against the disease, not the virus.
I am struggling to make sense of this. I think you are saying the vaccine does not stop the virus spreading?

It is unclear to me what you are saying but if you are stating it is your opinion that the vaccine will not reduce the spread; see: https://healthpolicy-watch.news/vaccines-reduce-asymptomatic-transmission/

Moderna’s mRNA COVID-19 vaccine appears to be able to reduce infection and therefore transmission of the virus, a Harvard expert has told Health Policy Watch, albeit despite the currently limited data sets.

Peer reviewed Phase 3 clinical trial results for the Moderna vaccine, published last week in the New England Journal of Medicine, now suggest, however, that vaccination also reduced asymptomatic transmission by about two-thirds, in the case of Moderna’s mRNA-1273 vaccine – although the numbers examined were small.



The virus will still rage its way through the population.
It will get to a point where it slows down once enough people have immunity.

Even with 90% effectiveness rates, if everyone was given the vaccine today that still means 10% ie 6.8 million people in this country would still suffer from covid.
This is not true on two accounts:
1) If 90% of people had good immunity, that would be (more than) sufficient for endemic equilibrium to be achieved.
2) Most people who are infected do not ''suffer from Covid'' anyway; a significant proportion do not develop any Covid19 symptoms whatsoever. Many more people experience mild symptoms which are similar to other repository viruses. So even if 10% of people did get exposed in this scenario (which is incorrect) a much smaller number would actually "suffer" from Covid19 symptoms.


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100%. The lockdown fanatics, who are calling for Asian style lockdowns with people welded into their homes don't give a toss about people's livelihoods, the economy and mental health.
We all know the restrictions can't start to be lifted just yet, but the peal-clutching from Corbynistas and "DOOM! DOOMMMMM! comments from random "experts" every 5 minutes that things need to be stricter and stricter, is just ridiculous. We know this is a very serious situation but there is no balance whatsoever.
Agreed; not only will a Chinese style lockdown not be feasible here, but they fought a significantly less transmissable form of the vius than the one that affected Italy and spread across Europe and eventually replaced the original form throughout the world. That's something the pro-China brigade conveniently forget.

Don't forget the leader of the labour party wanting tougher restrictions
I won't forget this; Labour are, if anything, even more pro-authoritarian and pro-restriction than the Conservative government have been! So voting for Labour has to be ruled out for the foreseeable future for me.
 
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Another article from Sunday Times, this time written by Chris Whitty:


In the article, Chris Whitty does seem to be suggesting restrictions will end at some point in that he says a normal life will return. He does not put any timeframe on it though other than saying obeying the lockdown will bring about normality quicker.
Of course they will end at some point. Does anybody really think anyone is prepared to live like this forever? You will also note he doesn't mention the role he and others in authority have played in creating this situation or in undermining people's trust in what he and others say. Just the usual - you are all wicked and killing people and it's all your fault.
 

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Of course they will end at some point. Does anybody really think anyone is prepared to live like this forever? You will also note he doesn't mention the role he and others in authority have played in creating this situation or in undermining people's trust in what he and others say. Just the usual - you are all wicked and killing people.
Agreed; Whitty has lost my trust and respect that's for sure.

He just isn't living in the real world and is disconnected from ordinary people who do ordinary jobs who are currently unable to have any livelihood or any sort of meaningful life. He is very one-dimensional and lacking vision of the bigger picture.
 

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Me too, I'm sick to the back teeth of generally middle class, able to work / school from home locktivists constantly banging on about more restrictions for everyone else.

This is what annoys me. I won't deny I'm middle class, and I'm certainly lucky enough to have a solid job where I can easily work from home and I've basically had the equivalent of a tax free promotion up a pay grade by not having to pay for my £5.5k season ticket for a year. I live with a partner, so again I'm better off than many in that respect.

But I've been against this since the late spring now (if not before) as I can see the bigger picture. I want healty public services going forward and not another era of austerity. I fear for the many people with non-COVID conditions who are having a terrible time of it. And from a personal level I want my social life and my freedom to travel back again. I want to see my colleagues face to face. Sitting at home bored of my skull and starved of my social connections is not doing me any good at all. I've always valued these things in life more than money, and

The people who are keen to keep this going think they are the ones doing good for the world, but it is the exact opposite. I really fear for the long term crisis in both health and economic wealth that is going to transpire over the next decade. And it's the most underprivileged and poorest who will bear the brunt of it.
 
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Agreed; Whitty has lost my trust and respect that's for sure.

And so has Matt Hancock, when he supported the police who fined those two women £200 for travelling 5 miles to get some exercise, and then said having a cup of coffee constitutes a picnic, and is not allowed.

I have never heard such ridiculous claptrap in all my life.

And then the silly twit says "Every flexing of the rules can be fatal".

More claptrap.

How do you know that travelling 5 miles from your home for exercise is fatal?

Those two women travelled by car, so weren't mixing with anyone else, and the open space they went to was sufficiently empty to enable social distancing to take place. So there was no more risk than if they had walked from their houses to the nearest public park.
 

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I'm frankly appalled at the attitude of people on here that say restrictions must say 'because it's not safe' or saying there's 'no way' restrictions will be going anytime soon. I think you ought to remember there is more in this world than just COVID, and once the vaccine has been rolled out to the most vulnerable, that will prevent a significant number of hospitalisations. It will be a gradual relaxation, as the vaccine rollout will have a gradual effect on hospital capacity, and I would expect the easing to follow this model. My guess would be

Lockdown -> Everywhere Tiers 3/4

Individual relaxations/tightening dependant on hospital capacity in certain areas.

When vaccine has enough impact on this, we will eventually all be in tier 1 (or thereabouts), and the government will finally call it a day on these restrictions once and for all.

There is NO such thing as a risk free society, and you will ALWAYS face certain risks when you leave your home. It is not the job of government to mitigate risks like this. The justification for the third full lockdown is due to hospital capacity, NOT due to people dying from COVID (despite what they say). It is not the duty of the state to protect us against respiratory viruses, that's a risk we choose to take in society, and frankly it needs to stay that way, or there will be a gross imbalance of prioritising quantity of life over quality of life.
Agree, I'm afraid we seem to have lost sight of the fact that people should look after themselves, if you are vulnerable take precautions, stop expecting everyone else to look after you. Assume they don't cross the road without looking and expect all traffic to suddenly stop?
I'm also fed up with people telling me how I should think, can't help my state of mind and wanting to get on with life. This is why people go out and about because they have to otherwise it'll seriously affect their state of mind. It's not that they're deliberately breaking the rules in most cases. Many have had enough, the pro lockdown brigade don't get that and nor do the politicians. As I said to someone yesterday who was pro restrictions how much has your life changed; to which they admitted, hardly at all.
 
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And so has Matt Hancock, when he supported the police who fined those two women £200 for travelling 5 miles to get some exercise, and then said having a cup of coffee constitutes a picnic, and is not allowed.

I have never heard such ridiculous claptrap in all my life.

And then the silly twit says "Every flexing of the rules can be fatal".

More claptrap.

How do you know that travelling 5 miles from your home for exercise is fatal?

Those two women travelled by car, so weren't mixing with anyone else, and the open space they went to was sufficiently empty to enable social distancing to take place. So there was no more risk than if they had walked from their houses to the nearest public park.

How does he know that their local area was not crowded and they were being safer by getting out into the countryside?

And if a cup of coffee is a picnic then it should well have counted as a substantial meal then when the pubs were open under those ridiculous rules!
 

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Of course they will end at some point. Does anybody really think anyone is prepared to live like this forever? You will also note he doesn't mention the role he and others in authority have played in creating this situation or in undermining people's trust in what he and others say. Just the usual - you are all wicked and killing people and it's all your fault.
I agree the restrictions will end at some point, however there are some I think who do seem to want to restrictions to continue permanently and will keep on find reasons to justify the restrictions, for example Covid-19 needs to be eliminated entirely or to reduce flu deaths.
 

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And if a cup of coffee is a picnic then it should well have counted as a substantial meal then when the pubs were open under those ridiculous rules!

I must remember that if the "substantial meal" rule is still in place when the pubs re-open.
 

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Me too, I'm sick to the back teeth of generally middle class, able to work / school from home locktivists constantly banging on about more restrictions for everyone else.

From my experience of people I know, the (very) few people who welcome the restrictions are those who have anxiety about the virus, and indeed many other things. I actually don’t know anybody who wants more restrictions - it seems to me that they are generally of a similar singular mindset (albeit polar opposites) of the anti-vaxx brigade, who will wheel out a Dr to say how the vaccine is dangerous etc and that we should all trust in the Lord to see us through this.
 

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Let's call it what it is, a Chinese authoritarian type lockdown. That's what SAGE want, and seemingly what they have wanted for previous pandemics. Maybe it is time to seal SAGE into their homes, drip feed them cheap and nasty food & see how long it would be before they started to complain.

They should certainly be on reduced salaries until their mighty intellects get us out of this mess.
Lockdown may even be more damaging to the frail and vulnerable and we need fast vaccination to dig us out of this mess.
 

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And then the silly twit says "Every flexing of the rules can be fatal".

More claptrap.

How do you know that travelling 5 miles from your home for exercise is fatal?
Far worse and far more undermining of the message than his remarks about travelling a few miles is him saying every flex can be fatal the day after they said fishing is now permitted. So they flexed the rules because they admit that some of the rules are stupid and totally out of proportion and they then say flexing them is fatal. Clowns is the only appropriate word for some of these people.
 

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I’d restructure the tiers like this after this lockdown ends in February/March. No area would start any lower than tier 3. I’d also try to make it so larger areas were together in the same tier, for example all of Yorkshire as 1 tier. This is so you don’t have a situation like we’ve just had where York had a large spike as Tier 3 residents in the rest of Yorkshire came to York, which was in Tier 2.


Tier 1
  • Rule of 6 indoors and outdoors
  • Pubs and Restaurants open with alcohol sales , with max. 2 households in a booking
  • Non Essential Travel allowed
  • Schools fully open
  • Non Essential Shops open
  • Leisure Facilities open
  • 10,000 Fans/Half capacity (whichever is lower) allowed at sporting events

Tier 2
  • No indoor meeting outside of support bubble - Rule of 6 outdoors
  • Pubs and Restaurants open without alcohol sales, with max. 1 household in a booking
  • Non Essential Travel allowed
  • Schools fully open
  • Non Essential Shops open
  • Leisure Facilities open
  • 5,000 Fans/Half capacity (whichever is lower) allowed at sporting events

Tier 3
  • No indoor meeting outside of support bubble - Rule of 6 outdoors
  • Pubs and Restaurants open for meals with no alcohol sales, with max. 1 household in a booking
  • Non Essential Travel allowed but advised against
  • Schools open at a level that enables Social Distancing
  • Non Essential Shops open
  • Leisure Facilities closed
  • No fans allowed at spotting events

Tier 4
  • No indoor meeting outside of support bubble - Rule of 2 outdoors
  • Pubs and Restaurants open for Takeaway and Delivery only
  • Essential Travel only
  • Schools open at a level that enables Social Distancing
  • Non Essential Shops closed
  • Leisure Facilities closed
  • No fans allowed at spotting events

Tier 5
  • No meeting of people allowed indoors or outdoors outside of support bubble
  • Pubs and Restaurants closed
  • Essential Travel only
  • Schools closed with exceptions
  • Non Essential Shops closed
  • Leisure Facilities closed
  • No fans allowed at spotting events
I presume you could not care less about the hospitality business.
 

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They should certainly be on reduced salaries until their mighty intellects get us out of this mess.
Lockdown may even be more damaging to the frail and vulnerable and we need fast vaccination to dig us out of this mess.
Lockdowns hurt the poorest the very most, something a lot of people forget. The IMF forecasted back in the middle of last year that restrictions would cause at least 500 million people globally to be forced into poverty. I wonder when we will clap for them?
 

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Lockdowns hurt the poorest the very most, something a lot of people forget. The IMF forecasted back in the middle of last year that restrictions would cause at least 500 million people globally to be forced into poverty. I wonder when we will clap for them?

Yes, as someone who's spent much of my career working in international development / public health, it utterly depresses me.

This article sums it up really: https://www.pandata.org/wp-content/...ne-and-the-betrayal-of-sub-Saharan-Africa.pdf I've pasted a pertinent bit below.

The virus, SARS-COV-2, was initially feared to be highly lethal and capable of killing up to
1 in 20 infected people. The initial mortality rates for northern Italy’s elderly looked
frightening when transferred to the entire population of the African continent.
Governments, corralled by the WHO, narrowed their focus on dealing with what was
initially presented as an existential threat to medical infrastructure, globally. As more
data poured in, it became clear that the challenge the virus presented, although serious,
was not the global catastrophe previously feared. But seemingly undeterred by emerging
data - the infection fatality rate is now estimated at 0.23% and far lower for those under
65 years of age - global health institutions and governments continue to allocate hefty
resources and a blinkered focus on the pandemic with undiminished urgency.
However, half of the billion-plus people in sub-Saharan Africa are under 19 years of age,
and we have known for most of 2020 that most SARS-COV-2 infections in children are
barely symptomatic. Regardless, a climate of fear was sustained, regarding a looming
‘catastrophe’ for African countries. While European nations locked down their
populations to emulate the highly restrictive measures employed in China, the WHO
advocated for similar measures across Africa. This ran contrary to its own prior evidencebased pandemic guidance and with seemingly little regard for the high vulnerabilities to
pre-existing epidemics (such as malaria, TB and HIV/AIDS), as well as the limited capacity
of these populations to absorb income loss.
The catastrophe currently unfolding in Africa is not due to the coronavirus. Despite
months of community spread in crowded cities, recorded COVID-19 mortality was under
70,000 across the entire continent by 1 January 2021. If we exclude the Mediterranean
countries and South Africa with their differing demography and co-morbidities, this
drops to just 13,031 in over a billion people – that is one in every 80,000 people. As the
figure shows, COVID-19 would likely have gone unnoticed in this population if we had not
been testing for it. Yet, we are where we are – the apparently new virus has dominated
the policies of donors and international organizations on an unprecedented scale, and
while African countries may be easing internally, the focus externally remains on COVID19, and now on a vaccine whose roll-out in these populations would defy all previous
public health norms.
This catastrophe goes far beyond health alone. A generation of children’s schooling has
been interrupted and lower income and rural children will likely never recover. A
generation of girls and young women have been pushed back into the trap of early
marriage and poverty. Economies are devastated and basic human rights and
democratic norms, globally, are under renewed threat.
 

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This is what annoys me. I won't deny I'm middle class, and I'm certainly lucky enough to have a solid job where I can easily work from home and I've basically had the equivalent of a tax free promotion up a pay grade by not having to pay for my £5.5k season ticket for a year. I live with a partner, so again I'm better off than many in that respect.

But I've been against this since the late spring now (if not before) as I can see the bigger picture. I want healty public services going forward and not another era of austerity. I fear for the many people with non-COVID conditions who are having a terrible time of it. And from a personal level I want my social life and my freedom to travel back again. I want to see my colleagues face to face. Sitting at home bored of my skull and starved of my social connections is not doing me any good at all. I've always valued these things in life more than money, and

The people who are keen to keep this going think they are the ones doing good for the world, but it is the exact opposite. I really fear for the long term crisis in both health and economic wealth that is going to transpire over the next decade. And it's the most underprivileged and poorest who will bear the brunt of it.
Snap, my situation sounds like a mirror image of yours.

I’m screaming at the lockdown again crew here.
 
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