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What would an electric London Crosslink look like?

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LUYMun

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London Crosslink was a short-lived rail service between Basingstoke and Stratford (extending to GEML destinations such as Witham, Colchester and Ipswich) between 2000 and 2002 operated by Anglia Railways using Class 170 DMUs. It wasn't much of a success due to the limited advertising of the service alongside capacity constraints on the North London Line. Interestingly, despite running on electric lines for the majority of the route, only the South Acton - Brentford section is unelectrified, thus requiring a diesel locomotive/multiple unit to operate London Crosslink. Supposing if that line was electrified (likely 3rd rail; and also assuming nobody had the thought of an additional passenger service on that section), I wouldn't be wrong in assuming that the rolling stock allocations would be very different. I might even say that the Crosslink could've been run by a different operator.

Without a doubt, the course of the route, involving the North London line, would've required a dual-voltage rolling stock and an additional stop at Acton Central for the changeover. If assuming that Anglia Railways were awarded the service anyway, I might think that a small number of Class 357-esque multiple units would've been ordered, with the capability of dual-voltage running, to match the mechanical framework with their 170s. Looking at different operators at the time, it would've been interesting what orders would be made to operate the Crosslink. Silverlink springs as the most logical in geographical terms - even Silverlink rhymes with Crosslink. However, they would've been stretched for rolling stocks at the time, the 313s aren't comfortably suited for long-distance semi-fast journeys, and the 321s didn't have the possibility for 3rd rail retrofits. Perhaps some cascaded 319s would've done the trick? South West Trains could be another operator that would have a crack at the London Crosslink, perhaps fitting some 450s with pantographs.
 
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London Crosslink was a short-lived rail service between Basingstoke and Stratford (extending to GEML destinations such as Witham, Colchester and Ipswich) between 2000 and 2002 operated by Anglia Railways using Class 170 DMUs. It wasn't much of a success due to the limited advertising of the service alongside capacity constraints on the North London Line. Interestingly, despite running on electric lines for the majority of the route, only the South Acton - Brentford section is unelectrified, thus requiring a diesel locomotive/multiple unit to operate London Crosslink. Supposing if that line was electrified (likely 3rd rail; and also assuming nobody had the thought of an additional passenger service on that section), I wouldn't be wrong in assuming that the rolling stock allocations would be very different. I might even say that the Crosslink could've been run by a different operator.

Without a doubt, the course of the route, involving the North London line, would've required a dual-voltage rolling stock and an additional stop at Acton Central for the changeover. If assuming that Anglia Railways were awarded the service anyway, I might think that a small number of Class 357-esque multiple units would've been ordered, with the capability of dual-voltage running, to match the mechanical framework with their 170s. Looking at different operators at the time, it would've been interesting what orders would be made to operate the Crosslink. Silverlink springs as the most logical in geographical terms - even Silverlink rhymes with Crosslink. However, they would've been stretched for rolling stocks at the time, the 313s aren't comfortably suited for long-distance semi-fast journeys, and the 321s didn't have the possibility for 3rd rail retrofits. Perhaps some cascaded 319s would've done the trick? South West Trains could be another operator that would have a crack at the London Crosslink, perhaps fitting some 450s with pantographs.
This service has been discussed numerous times on this forum, I myself used it many times to travel from Stratford or Highbury to Staines as it was nice to travel in comfort without having to use the tube. However, it was restricted for the reasons you mentioned above and even if it had been a success at the time, I don't think it would have survived for too long due to the increase in passenger services on the NLL in recent years.
 

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I don’t think EMUs would have changed much, they would still have had poor paths amongst the freight, and wasn’t it almost always quicker to go via tube and Waterloo anyway?
 

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Like the former Cross Country(XC) services from Brighton to the North, the problem that you had with the London Crosslink services, is that the majority of people preferred to travel to London or through it, rather than travel around it.

So changing what type of trains being used with having publicity or not, would not have changed the amount of people travelling on the services.

Where Elizabeth line works better than either Crosslink or the former XC services to Brighton, is that whilst going through London, it does stop at many stations within the main city area of the capital, which neither of the Crosslink or XC services did when they ran.

If the Crosslink services ran today, then I think that they would be using something similar to the class 755/756 flirt trains, being bi-mode trains, but perhaps have a tri-mode version. Although, going on the experience that GWR had with the class 769 tri-mode units, I am not sure how well they would work on the route between Basingstoke to Stratford.
 

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I think had it tried to survive it wouldn't have ended up significantly different from today's NLL service to Richmond or Clapham Jn. the path would have just steadily been trimmed back as it got more awkward to run reliably until it got taken over by TfL.
 

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The short lived service proved useful for me on a handful of occasions as a quick direct route between Staines and Basingstoke. The chord between Addlestone and West Byfleet on the LSWR is very rare track for passenger trains in normal service. I never used it to cross London via the NLL though.
 

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The short lived service proved useful for me on a handful of occasions as a quick direct route between Staines and Basingstoke. The chord between Addlestone and West Byfleet on the LSWR is very rare track for passenger trains in normal service. I never used it to cross London via the NLL though.
There are all day services from London Waterloo to Woking via Twickenham every Sunday which use it.
 
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