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Nico75

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Hi! I write from France and I would ask you the english translation of some french words.

I will have to speak about "the opening to the competition of the french railway" ... I don't know if my translation is all right ?

Is there a special word in english for "the railway slots circulation" ? I have the same question for the "exploitation of the network".
Otherwise, can I use the expression "private competitors" to speak about the firms which work "against" the SNCF ?

Thanks for everything ;)

Nico
 
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Hi, Nico! I'll see if I can help you.

I will have to speak about "the opening to the competition of the french railway" ... I don't know if my translation is all right ?

It's not bad. But a better phrase would be "The opening up of competition to the French Railways".

Otherwise, can I use the expression "private competitors" to speak about the firms which work "against" the SNCF ?

In this context, yes.

Sorry, I don't have a clue about the other ones :oops: but I hope I've helped you! The biggest challenge with translation is that the smaller words cause the problems, and what's considered the best options in English is not necessarily the same as the French literal translation.
 

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Hi, Nico! I'll see if I can help you.



It's not bad. But a better phrase would be "The opening up of competition to the French Railways".



In this context, yes.

Sorry, I don't have a clue about the other ones :oops: but I hope I've helped you! The biggest challenge with translation is that the smaller words cause the problems, and what's considered the best options in English is not necessarily the same as the French literal translation.


I imagine the others could mean access rights and pathings?
 

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Thanks to you to answer me so quickly ! ;)

It's not bad. But a better phrase would be "The opening up of competition to the French Railways".

In this context, yes.

I have taken heed of this ;)

Sorry, I don't have a clue about the other ones :oops: but I hope I've helped you! The biggest challenge with translation is that the smaller words cause the problems, and what's considered the best options in English is not necessarily the same as the French literal translation.

Yes, especially with such a specialized vocabulary :D

I imagine the others could mean access rights and pathings?

Is that for the translation of "the railway slots circulation" ? which is the best ?

In France, the "exploitation of the network" is the name of a department which mission is to make trains run in general. (besides, can we say "run" for a train ?). What are the missions of Surveyors ? is there a department called liked this in railway firms ?

ps : don't hesitate to correct my english ;) (I hope I will improve it thanks to you :D )
 

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In France, the "exploitation of the network" is the name of a department which mission is to make trains run in general. (besides, can we say "run" for a train ?). What are the missions of Surveyors ? is there a department called liked this in railway firms ?

You can say run when talking about English trains as we say phrases such as "the train is currently running on time"
As for the "exploitation of the network we have various firms who deal with the allocation of train times and paths although im sure someone else on this forum could better inform you about these firms.
 

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Hi! I write from France and I would ask you the english translation of some french words.

I will have to speak about "the opening to the competition of the french railway" ... I don't know if my translation is all right ?

Is there a special word in english for "the railway slots circulation" ? I have the same question for the "exploitation of the network".
Otherwise, can I use the expression "private competitors" to speak about the firms which work "against" the SNCF ?

Thanks for everything ;)

Nico

'Exploitation of the network' could be literal. Meaning someone (individual or corporate body) is making money or gaining a commercial advantage by some kind of activity which will hurt or damage the network.

However, not knowing the full context in which it was intended, probably means that the 'network' (presume you DO mean SNCF here) is to be commercially developed to provide better performance, revenue or similar commercial advantage from the existing infrastructure.

Moving on the 'private competitors' which work against SNCF', perhaps you have been 'brainwashed' by ingrained attitudes in France that anyone who challenges the status quo of a nationalised industry is working against that organisation, in this case the state?

Bear in mind that in socialist regimes, thinking of major utilities such as provision of light, power and transport other than by the 'state', was regarded as almost unthinkable.

It is only in the last 10 years or so that the British Labour Party managed to make the break with a constitutional requirement to consider state ownership of such facilities as de facto desirable, if not essential.

That does NOT necessarily mean that private operators of such facilities ARE better however.

Two French organisations (Connex and EdF) have had a bad press here for their activities as pseudo private companies in the fields of transport and energy supply.

The issue is not whether state or private control is best, but given that competition is to be allowed, firstly the competition should be fair and transparent, and secondly that regulatory control has to be good enough to ensure that the highest standards of service are met in the first place, and then maintained at a high level thereafter.

Hope that this helps, and congratulations on the quality of your English. We are a lazy nation in languages, many can't even converse and express themselves adequately in their native toungue.
 

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Bighat, I work for the privatised railway, i see first hand what privatisation actually means ;)
 

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Bighat, I work for the privatised railway, i see first hand what privatisation actually means ;)


Mmmmmm.............the words 'heat' and 'kitchen' come to mind.

I too have worked in the public sector. Whilst I must agree that certain aspects of 'privatisation' do leave much to be desired, public sector situations frequently allowed much indifference (both financial and personal), jobsworthyness, responsibility and progression by ability, to be swept under the proverbial carpet.
 

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On the whole, i can ignore the mess that privatisation brings, but sometimes it gets too much, like on weekend possessions when you have 30 or 40 different sub contractors signing into the worksite.
Trying to get things done can be quite taxing. The vehicle needs a brake light changed. So i have to phone Fleet Support Ltd, arrange a time for the van to goto the garage. I drive to the garage and wait for some Work experience student to become available to change the bulb.
The guttering on the messroom is knackered, so i have to phone twenty different people to arrange for McGinleys or Osbournes to come out and do an initial survey, then arrange a date for them to come back and change the guttering.
Saturday night is when Fareham viaducts get patrolled, as you need to stop traffic to examine them and the only convient time is Saturday night. Most Saturday nights the line is under possession for snagging and upgrading of PARS. So you need to spend an hour phoning round to get the details of the Engineering Supervisor and then contact him to see if you can come into the possession.
Just a few examples of the fragmentation that Privatisation achieves.
 

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Yes,because they are too blame ...

New Labour are to blame for the privitisation of the British railway system?? IIRC it was the Conservative government who were in power from the Railways Act 1993 to 1997 when Scotrail succomed to the private sector just before Labour's election victory. Although New Labour vowed to reverse the Conservative government's work it was generally agreed nationalisation would be just too expensive to consider a viable option.

Privitisation has had some notable failures in the name of Railtrack and Connex but also successes like Chiltern and to a larger extent market liberalisation in the form of open access operators like Hull Trains. I think anyone still hoping for nationalisation of the UK rail network today is pretty much in fantasy land unless the West reject capitalism altogether.
 

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"the opening to the competition of the french railway"

Privatisation.

Nico75 said:
Is there a special word in english for "the railway slots circulation"?

Pathing.

Nico75 said:
I have the same question for the "exploitation of the network".

Routing?

Nico75 said:
Otherwise, can I use the expression "private competitors" to speak about the firms which work "against" the SNCF?

Yes.
 

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On the whole, i can ignore the mess that privatisation brings, but sometimes it gets too much, like on weekend possessions when you have 30 or 40 different sub contractors signing into the worksite.
Trying to get things done can be quite taxing. The vehicle needs a brake light changed. So i have to phone Fleet Support Ltd, arrange a time for the van to goto the garage. I drive to the garage and wait for some Work experience student to become available to change the bulb.
The guttering on the messroom is knackered, so i have to phone twenty different people to arrange for McGinleys or Osbournes to come out and do an initial survey, then arrange a date for them to come back and change the guttering.
Saturday night is when Fareham viaducts get patrolled, as you need to stop traffic to examine them and the only convient time is Saturday night. Most Saturday nights the line is under possession for snagging and upgrading of PARS. So you need to spend an hour phoning round to get the details of the Engineering Supervisor and then contact him to see if you can come into the possession.
Just a few examples of the fragmentation that Privatisation achieves.

I fully understand and appreciate your frustrations.

However, that is NOT the fault of privitisation 'per se'.

That is the fault of poor implimentation of policy, not to mention poor understanding of new H&S and other 'safety' related regulations, which apply equally to public sector operations.

Its part of the general malaise that is creeping aross this country I'm afraid, but you'll find the centre for this cancer in Brussels more than in the boardrooms of UK organisations, public or private sector!
 
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