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What are the rules for 1st class on Thameslink

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It's ridiculous. As I said it should all be 1st at all times, or physically remove it.
I think the sensible thing would be the 12 cars have first class, it is first class both ends. The 8 cars (which spend their time on the non-first class routes) don't have first class in them at all. On the odd working where an 8 car goes to Brighton, there just wouldn't be 1st class on that train
 

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I really don't see the point in this silliness, though. Make it all 1st, and just introduce / reduce 1st fares on the relevant sections of route so as to fill it.
You think people would buy first class tickets on the Sutton Loop???
 

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It's ridiculous. As I said it should all be 1st at all times, or physically remove it.

The ridiculous thing is the bargain basement interiors that the 700s were fitted with. Also maintaining the number of 1st class seats while at the same time reducing the number of standard class ones so that more people can stand was always going to be an issue, particularly on the 8-car 700s.

I think the sensible thing would be the 12 cars have first class, it is first class both ends. The 8 cars (which spend their time on the non-first class routes) don't have first class in them at all. On the odd working where an 8 car goes to Brighton, there just wouldn't be 1st class on that train

The 8 car trains aren't exclusively used on non-1st class routes.
 

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Just bite the bullet and make them all standard class only - whether GTR would be able to stomach the first class revenue loss however is a different question.
 

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Why should someone travelling from somewhere like Huntingdon to London not have a 1st class option?
 

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This has not been a fares and ticketing thread since August last year, when the OP was last seen (and said thank you for answering their question). Since then it's become a discussion about rolling stock and probably is better to be split and moved there for posts since August last year. Mods?
 

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Just bite the bullet and make them all standard class only - whether DfT would be able to stomach the first class revenue loss however is a different question.

Corrected that for you as the DfT is responsible for any potential ticket loss as they pay GTR £8.9 billion over the first seven years with DfT getting ALL revenue therefore GTR carries less revenue risk.
 

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This has not been a fares and ticketing thread since August last year, when the OP was last seen (and said thank you for answering their question). Since then it's become a discussion about rolling stock and probably is better to be split and moved there for posts since August last year. Mods?

Yes but it was re-opened on Friday because the poster in post #14 thought there had been a change in policy.
 

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As we have established the policy, this thread appears to have run its course. If anyone wishes to request a further contribution to this thread please contact us directly.

If anyone wishes to make a proposal to change the current provision or rules, please create a thread in the correct forum. Thanks
 
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