What are practicalities of shift work and signing on points ?

[eagle50043]

Hi All,

Some info advise if you can....

For TOC, on shifts that start / end in a different location - i.e. you drive 1st ecs from Soho/Tyseley to Birmingham New Street, so you've driven your car to Soho, or, Tyseley....so when uve finished shift how would you normally get back to your car ?

For FOC, say your a Bescot driver, and you do a trip to say, Toton. would you always have a trip to drive back to BS ? if not, how would you get back normally ?

Conductor Roles - do they ever start / finish in a different place ?

cheers.

 

[bionic]

Normally you'd go between your depot/booking on point and the yard or stablimg location by taxi, by walking or as passenger on a train. It would be incorporated into the duty diagram and timings.

 

[Val3ntine]

For TOC, you start and finish at your home depot always, even if you finish working your last train away from the point, it will be built into your diagram what you are to do after to get you back. Maybe pass on another train, a taxi may have been already booked also. You’re never just left to your own devices to get you back. Same goes with booking on, if you have to travel, it will state what to do either taxi or pass on a train.

 

[Val3ntine]

I’ll also add that once you’ve finished, there’s no actual requirement to go back to your home depot if you finish away from it. If you have parked there of course you need to get back, but if used transport you can just make your way straight home if no other work is booked. You will still be paid your travel back to the depot regardless as it’s incorporated into the diagram

 

[GB]

I’ll also add that once you’ve finished, there’s no actual requirement to go back to your home depot if you finish away from it. If you have parked there of course you need to get back, but if used transport you can just make your way straight home if no other work is booked. You will still be paid your travel back to the depot regardless as it’s incorporated into the diagram

Same as on FOC. No need to go back to depot unless you either need to pick up your car, return a vehicle or have something else that needs doing. The company are obligated to arrange transport to get you back on one way trips, be it on a passenger train, taxi, hire car etc etc all of which is built into the diagram and counted as part of the shift. The same is true in reverse.

 

[craigybagel]

Of course, for conductors you'd normally need to return to your home depot every day, in order to return your ticket machines and pay in your takings, things like that - so it's harder for them to avoid going back to their home depot at the end of their day. Bit otherwise the same rules apply as for drivers - you normally start and finish your day at your home depot, and if there are no service trains to get you to or from where you need to be then then it's travel on ECS or in a taxi - and the time spent traveling counts towards your shift length, and time required before breaks and so on (for example, we have a regular job at my place where we book on, travel as a passenger 40 minutes down the line, then have a 15 minute break - and only then do we actually work a train by ourselves).

There is also the exception to the rule that is Lodging turns - where traincrew (mostly drivers) finish their day a long way from home, spend the night in a hotel, and work back the next day. LNER use it to cover their Inverness and some of their Aberdeen services, and I believe Hull Trains and/or Grand Central may use it in London. It's more common on the freight though I believe.

 

[eagle50043]

thanks all.