What a load of nonsense.

[markskoda]

I've been out of the country for a good few years. How things have changed.
On a London Midland train recently I was referred to as a customer and the next station had become a "Station stop." Where is all this nonsense leading? Will I be a client next year?

 

[Greenback]

I tend to think of it as being a customer until I get on the train, at which point I become a passenger!

I suspect it was introduce (and many years ago while still BR IIRC) as a way to try and improve the way passengers were communicated with.

As for station stop, this has been used for at least twenty years and was brought in to try and ensure that people were aware that the train may stop before the actual station.

 

[shedman]

What annoys me more than customer and that does annoy me alot is the term PAX. it makes no sense to me!

 

[Bungle73]

As for station stop, this has been used for at least twenty years and was brought in to try and ensure that people were aware that the train may stop before the actual station.

Yeah, that was the "reason" given last time this was discussed; but quite frankly it doesn't make any sense.

 

[Schnellzug]

I tink the term "customer" was introduced back in the Glorious Years of BR, wasn't it, as was "Senior Conductor" for Guard. I'm pleased to see that some companies seem to have reverted to calling them Passengers and Guards.

 

[ChrisCooper]

I don't think "station stop" is any kind of official thing, it's just something some guards happen to say. I can't think of a single auto annoucment that says it (they always use "next station"), you only hear it on manual annoucements.

 

[Schnellzug]

Automated announcements also sometimes say "this train is now approaching its final destination" when they're leaving on the return journey, but that's another matter entirely.

 

[YorkshireRider]

Theres that much trivell on announcements now i dont blame anyone for putting their i pod on and not listening to a word, however 'next station' or 'next station stop' is the niether here nor there for me.

 

[Greenback]

Yeah, that was the "reason" given last time this was discussed; but quite frankly it doesn't make any sense.

I think it sounds wrong!

I tink the term "customer" was introduced back in the Glorious Years of BR, wasn't it, as was "Senior Conductor" for Guard. I'm pleased to see that some companies seem to have reverted to calling them Passengers and Guards.

That accords with my own memories!

I don't think "station stop" is any kind of official thing, it's just something some guards happen to say. I can't think of a single auto annoucment that says it (they always use "next station"), you only hear it on manual annoucements.

Now you come to mention it, that's right. It must have emanated from somewhere though, and I assume that some guards continue to say it out of habit. Perhaps it will die out completely in a few years.

 

[Railsigns]

What annoys me more than customer and that does annoy me alot is the term PAX. it makes no sense to me!

Using phoney made-up words like "alot" doesn't make a great deal of sense either.

 

[Cliveblackpool]

I find it a strange term.
To say the next stop will be.... could be confusing.
To say the next station will be... sounds correct
'Station stop' - why use one word when you can use two!!
At certain busy stations they could say
The next station is ...... we may experience a short delay for a platform to become available.
At a terminus they could add 'yet another service arriving bang on time, thank you for travelling with 'X TOC''

 

[shedman]

Using phoney made-up words like "alot" doesn't make a great deal of sense either.

As you pointed it out would you not care to correct me to what word I should've used?

 

[Railsigns]

As you pointed it out would you not care to correct me to what word I should've used?

"A" and "lot" are two separate words.

 

[DaveNewcastle]

There's been this dedicated thread Train Station or Railway Station? in the General Discussion sub-forum running for a few days already.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

What annoys me more than customer and that does annoy me alot is the term PAX. it makes no sense to me!

The term translates as "peace" from Latin.

If so, it is not at all an appropriate word to describe "harrassed" passengers.

 

[Lampshade]

Theres that much trivell on announcements now i dont blame anyone for putting their i pod on and not listening to a word, however 'next station' or 'next station stop' is the niether here nor there for me.

Especially on TPE...

 

[90019]

Using phoney made-up words like "alot" doesn't make a great deal of sense either.

The Alot.

 

[pendolino]

What annoys me more than customer and that does annoy me alot is the term PAX. it makes no sense to me!

I can't think of anyone I work with who actually uses the term 'pax', I only ever see it on here. You're all 'punters' to us. I'm sorry if your alot gets annoyed by that too.

 

[Eagle]

punter n. 5 (UK, slang) A customer of a commercial establishment.

(source: Wiktionary)

 

[WestCoast]

Pax, as far as I know, is airline industry slang and has probably crept into use in the rail industry. Obviously it's just short for passengers.

The other one I know of is SLF - Self Loading Freight :roll:

 

[shedman]

"A" and "lot" are two separate words.

Oh thank you, how very kind you are, boring and pointless but kind.

But back to pax, thanks ALOT for the explainations to what it means. I see it quite alot in train reports etc, I guess it's still better than using the term customers!

 

[Railsigns]

The Alot.

I like that! My usual reaction to the sort of sloppy writing referred to is to think to myself "what an idiot", before moving swiftly on to the next post.

Oh thank you, how very kind you are, boring and pointless but kind.

No problem. It's curious that you should regard the acquisition of knowledge as boring and pointless (especially after you've requested it) but you're very welcome all the same.

explainations

"explanations"

 

[trainophile]

I've always thought that "the next station stop" is used because the train might well pass through other stations before reaching it, but not stop at them.

 

[Schnellzug]

I've always thought that "the next station stop" is used because the train might well pass through other stations before reaching it, but not stop at them.

Or stop at a signal before the next station, i suppose. So the next stop might not necessarily be a station.

 

[DaveNewcastle]

I've always thought that "the next station stop" is used because the train might well pass through other stations before reaching it, but not stop at them.

logical even if superfluous.
What about the common "xxxx will be your next station stop." ?

 

[shedman]

No problem. It's curious that you should regard the acquisition of knowledge as boring and pointless (especially after you've requested it) but you're very welcome all the same.

I don't regard that as boring or pointless, I regard your rather needless post regarding my post pointless. There are much better ways to correct someone than the condersending way you did it. I am more than happy for someone to correct me when I'm wrong but don't do it such a way that just rubbishes what I said. That's all I have to say on the matter now let's hug, make up and forget, I'd like that alot

 

[swt_passenger]

The expression that never sounds right to me is 'arriving into'.

'Arriving at', or 'arriving in' please...

 

[BestWestern]

The term 'PAX' is merely an abbreviation of passengers and as far as I'm aware is only used internally, for example "complaints from pax" would be something I might enter in a repair book as it takes up less space than writing "passengers". It's just industry shorthand, I believe it crops up in airline circles also. It isn't a term I would use to the passengers themselves or one I would expect them to understand.

 

[DaveNewcastle]

Ah, do you mean that you wouldn't expect MoPs to understand "pax", and you wouldn'd expect pax to understand "MoP", but you would expect someone who is neither a Pax nor a MoP to use both?

 

[amcluesent]

How things have changed.

The 'big men' can't even give out 'teltings' any more!